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Topic: Sun sq Moon synastry
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Amethyatix
Newflake Posts: 18
From: Australia
Registered: Feb 2016
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posted February 21, 2016 10:26 PM
  
My partners sun squares my moon 1.17 degrees and my sun squares his moon very weakly 7.6 degrees. In composite its sun opposite moon. Are we really doomed? I've heard that this is a very bad aspect in synastry and can break couples apart. What does it mean for us? And I've heard that any aspect is better than none... Why is that? EDIT: his sun is Virgo, my sun is Aquarius, his moon is Taurus and mine is in Gemini  IP: Logged |
MilaBirkin
Knowflake Posts: 498
From: Cordoba, Argentina
Registered: Jul 2015
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posted February 21, 2016 10:38 PM
Do you feel those aspects?
I have experience with two persons, they were Sun and I was Moon: square. Sometimes I felt it and sometimes I didn't felt it.
Sometimes I felt like they didn't wanted to understand what I was feeling! They were acting like if they didn't care at all about my feelings but other times it was the opposite.I think it means a huge attraction mostly. I think it depends on how you are, how is the entire Synastry and if you really love each other. I have experience with Sun opposite Moon in Composite (3 p) and let me tell you it's very difficult to run away from that! At least in my case. I have this with my last boyfriend and when we broke up it was so difficult, I think for both of us. It was like "I love you but I want you get out of my life. But, no, come back!" or something like that. Those experiences I mention were with friendship and romance. I don't think this is too bad.
I hope someone help you. I'm sorry if I misspelled  . IP: Logged |
EmGem
Knowflake Posts: 1111
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posted February 21, 2016 10:57 PM
You need to take the whole synastry into account as opposed to isolating aspects. I would post the synastry chart and see what people think IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh
Knowflake Posts: 630
From: New Jersey
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted February 21, 2016 11:29 PM
Lol, no you're not doomed. I definitely think some astrologers make too big a deal out of certain aspects. I've known plenty of Gemini Suns and Sagittarius Sun who never hurt my feelings. I have never felt irrated by them either. The same goes for Gemini and Sagittarius Mars individuals.I guess it depends on the moon signs as well. Earth and air moons might handle squares a bit better than water or even fire moons. IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
Knowflake Posts: 217
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posted February 22, 2016 05:18 AM
Amethyatix,Please do share with us how those squares feel! You don't often see such a synastric mismatch both ways, this is supposed to be really bad for a couple but that's just astrology. Life shows different picture very often. People fall in love, get married, have kids and deal with whatever problems they have. You are not doomed of course. Me personally, I feel things like that. Earth and water don't understand each other. I get really frustrated with my dad, even though we are both earth signs, he's Taurus, I am Capricorn. But my Aquarius planets clash with his Taurus planets. For Aquarius Taurus will always be slow, rigid, inflexible and shallow. Not that that's what Tauruses are, it's just Aquarius' perception of this sign. That's just an example of a square. Conflict, and all you can do is try to understand it and adjust. Do not attempt to change. With oppositions it is always easier, you can sort of see the other's point of view, like a mirror - you look into it and touch up. With squares you cannot. Gemini and Virgo will be similar. Air signs are too cerebral for their own good. And earth is too practical and down to earth. IP: Logged |
Sylven
Knowflake Posts: 428
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 22, 2016 09:22 AM
Not at all doomed!!!! They come together to connect and meet their differences. Square aspects are very very potent. Energy and can be so productive when energy is focussed. I don't at all agree with what's written everywhere. I have found a website with some really lovely explanation but I lost it. I will try to find it again for you (and for me  )
This can be a very fulfilling relationship if both people add their work. Therefor check out the rest of the synastry and basically it's up to willingness and how grown up each is. IP: Logged |
Sylven
Knowflake Posts: 428
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 22, 2016 09:38 AM
I also think this one might work better when people are a bit older and/or have lessened their ego. It might also be harder for someone who has a chart which is not scattered or someone has a stellium. A scattered chart might always have other planets to make nice aspects with first person. Say you have Gemini Moon and the other person has Gemini Venus (it doesn't even need to make an aspect). There's understanding and will help the couple even out things. Of course there is the Neptune trine Venus aspect which will make partners very tolerate towards each other. . But, also possible is that there will be escaping and the real work of the sun/moon combo will not be done. Possibilities, possibilities. IP: Logged |
Amethyatix
Newflake Posts: 18
From: Australia
Registered: Feb 2016
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posted February 22, 2016 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by MilaBirkin:
Do you feel those aspects?
I have experience with two persons, they were Sun and I was Moon: square. Sometimes I felt it and sometimes I didn't felt it.
Sometimes I felt like they didn't wanted to understand what I was feeling! They were acting like if they didn't care at all about my feelings but other times it was the opposite.I think it means a huge attraction mostly. I think it depends on how you are, how is the entire Synastry and if you really love each other. I have experience with Sun opposite Moon in Composite (3 p) and let me tell you it's very difficult to run away from that! At least in my case. I have this with my last boyfriend and when we broke up it was so difficult, I think for both of us. It was like "I love you but I want you get out of my life. But, no, come back!" or something like that. Those experiences I mention were with friendship and romance. I don't think this is too bad.
I hope someone help you. I'm sorry if I misspelled .
I feel as though it's the same. Sometimes I can feel tension because there's a mismatch and he doesn't want to understand my feelings - but this doesn't usually last anymore than a few minutes and we'll talk it out. We're very good at reasoning, and we both don't like drama so it rarely gets in the way. We've almost been together two years and still no arguement. In saying that though, I still wonder whether it affects our ability to deeply love each other. Sun op moon composite sounds like you've hit the nail on the head! If we did ever seperate it would definitely definitely be like that. We do so much for each other and challenge each other so much that life wouldn't be the same experience and journey without each other. IP: Logged |
Amethyatix
Newflake Posts: 18
From: Australia
Registered: Feb 2016
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posted February 22, 2016 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
Lol, no you're not doomed. I definitely think some astrologers make too big a deal out of certain aspects. I've known plenty of Gemini Suns and Sagittarius Sun who never hurt my feelings. I have never felt irrated by them either. The same goes for Gemini and Sagittarius Mars individuals.I guess it depends on the moon signs as well. Earth and air moons might handle squares a bit better than water or even fire moons.
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to clarify.. Just how bad this aspect is. Some websites and descriptions really make everything sound a lot more serious than it is. Still, because it's meant to be such a strong aspect I'm looking out for it. IP: Logged |
Amethyatix
Newflake Posts: 18
From: Australia
Registered: Feb 2016
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posted February 22, 2016 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by Sylven:
I also think this one might work better when people are a bit older and/or have lessened their ego. It might also be harder for someone who has a chart which is not scattered or someone has a stellium. A scattered chart might always have other planets to make nice aspects with first person. Say you have Gemini Moon and the other person has Gemini Venus (it doesn't even need to make an aspect). There's understanding and will help the couple even out things. Of course there is the Neptune trine Venus aspect which will make partners very tolerate towards each other. . But, also possible is that there will be escaping and the real work of the sun/moon combo will not be done. Possibilities, possibilities.
Hmm. I've got a stellium in the 5th and 6th house and he has one in his 2nd and 7th. Together in synastry I make a stellium on his 7th house and he makes one on my 6th. I'm not really sure how to interpret that though, but I've heard planets touching the partner's 7th can be a good thing. Interesting what you said about Neptune trine Venus. This isn't an aspect that we share though. Would there be any other particular aspects that could overcome the sun moon square? IP: Logged |
Lotis White
Moderator Posts: 2106
From: USA
Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 22, 2016 08:50 PM
How this is going to work really depends on the rest of the synastry... Most synastries need a balance of hard and soft aspects.Hard aspects are about dramatic highs and lows, solving problems, enacting change, and working hard to make progress with the other person. Hard aspects, like squares, are intense and dynamic. Sun square Moon aspects tend to indicate a rather passionate attraction because this aspect involves a masculine planet and a feminine planet. There can be struggles with understanding each other, but often you care so much about the other you're willing to 'walk though the fire' for them sort of thing. It can be worth it if the rest of the synastry is supportive, and even just understanding the astrology of why you are different can help a great deal. The close square will be the most influential one, and the 7 degree square will not be felt so strongly, so I wouldn't worry about that one so much. Soft aspects are about life just flowing easily for us, sharing natural understanding and harmony with another, and being content with things just the way they are. Soft aspects allow us to just relax and accept the good things in life. Having some tight soft aspects elsewhere in synastry will help balance the hard Sun/Moon aspects, and add some easy enjoyment to go along with the dynamic challenge of the squares. Too many hard aspects can wear us out, and too many soft aspects can make us stagnate. Maybe you could post your entire synastry, and then we could look at the overall balance of aspects that the two of you share? Just a couple of nice sextiles and trines could really help the two of you out. IP: Logged |
Lotis White
Moderator Posts: 2106
From: USA
Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 22, 2016 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Amethyatix:
I feel as though it's the same. Sometimes I can feel tension because there's a mismatch and he doesn't want to understand my feelings - but this doesn't usually last anymore than a few minutes and we'll talk it out. We're very good at reasoning, and we both don't like drama so it rarely gets in the way. We've almost been together two years and still no arguement. In saying that though, I still wonder whether it affects our ability to deeply love each other. Sun op moon composite sounds like you've hit the nail on the head! If we did ever seperate it would definitely definitely be like that. We do so much for each other and challenge each other so much that life wouldn't be the same experience and journey without each other.
The Sun and Moon are very primal deep parts of our nature, and whenever there is any kind of connection between them the attachment tends to be strong. Whether it's a square, conjunction, or trine, the two people will feel deeply for each other. Also, with squares, they can sometimes make two people fight each other, but they can also make people fight hard for each other, and for the relationship. Even with the square the love can be very deep with Sun/Moon aspects, and with the square there is the tendency to value the relationship because of how much you've worked at it. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 17505
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 23, 2016 07:03 AM
I agree with Lotis and I want to add I have noticed people tend to complete their geometric patterns. If you have a majority of hard aspects to your Sun in your natal, you WILL like and need a Moon squaring it better than a trine or sextile from a Moon. It's the energy defining you, the one you understand and need.IP: Logged |
EmGem
Knowflake Posts: 1111
From:
Registered: Jan 2015
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posted February 23, 2016 05:55 PM
This is a great read http://www.forrestastrology.com/resources/articles/relationships/38-love-handles-practical-synastry-in-action IP: Logged |
angel4845
Knowflake Posts: 2250
From: los angeles, ca, USA
Registered: Oct 2014
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posted February 23, 2016 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I agree with Lotis and I want to add I have noticed people tend to complete their geometric patterns. If you have a majority of hard aspects to your Sun in your natal, you WILL like and need a Moon squaring it better than a trine or sextile from a Moon. It's the energy defining you, the one you understand and need.
LeeLoo, i would love to get a synastry analysis reading from you i have paypall and am ready whenever you are. ------------------
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Amethyatix
Newflake Posts: 18
From: Australia
Registered: Feb 2016
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posted February 24, 2016 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
How this is going to work really depends on the rest of the synastry... Most synastries need a balance of hard and soft aspects.Hard aspects are about dramatic highs and lows, solving problems, enacting change, and working hard to make progress with the other person. Hard aspects, like squares, are intense and dynamic. Sun square Moon aspects tend to indicate a rather passionate attraction because this aspect involves a masculine planet and a feminine planet. There can be struggles with understanding each other, but often you care so much about the other you're willing to 'walk though the fire' for them sort of thing. It can be worth it if the rest of the synastry is supportive, and even just understanding the astrology of why you are different can help a great deal. The close square will be the most influential one, and the 7 degree square will not be felt so strongly, so I wouldn't worry about that one so much. Soft aspects are about life just flowing easily for us, sharing natural understanding and harmony with another, and being content with things just the way they are. Soft aspects allow us to just relax and accept the good things in life. Having some tight soft aspects elsewhere in synastry will help balance the hard Sun/Moon aspects, and add some easy enjoyment to go along with the dynamic challenge of the squares. Too many hard aspects can wear us out, and too many soft aspects can make us stagnate. Maybe you could post your entire synastry, and then we could look at the overall balance of aspects that the two of you share? Just a couple of nice sextiles and trines could really help the two of you out.
Hmmm thank you! This does make me feel a heap better about having a difficult aspect Trying to understand how it fits in synastry and it's importance and impact is all new to me. I've just uploaded our charts in another topic so feel free to check it out IP: Logged |
Amethyatix
Newflake Posts: 18
From: Australia
Registered: Feb 2016
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posted February 24, 2016 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by EmGem:
This is a great read http://www.forrestastrology.com/resources/articles/relationships/ 38-love-handles-practical-synastry-in-action
Woah that was a great read! thank you. I suppose it reinforces that difficult aspects are required to be long lasting :P IP: Logged |
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