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Odette
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posted February 25, 2016 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All!

Lol T'seems I'm well and truly going on a thread-making spree these days...

I'd like to know more about the way Pluto plays out in the composite... so I'd love to read some personal stories on the subject!

Please post the Pluto aspect/s you had in composite, the houses the planets were in and the orb of the aspect... and tell me your story.

Thank you so much!

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posted February 25, 2016 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My first love.

Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus all in Scorpio conjunct Pluto in the 7th house with Pluto being the ruler of that house as well.

We broke up 4 years ago.

I still think about him nonstop every day.

Our relationship has just been a series of ups and downs.

We were so young, but so in love. Life changing. I would do it again despite the heartache.

We still talk from time to time and we'll pop back in each other's life trying to rekindle what we had.. It's never-ending. I'm just waiting for one of us to have a kid and see how the other reacts. Karma!!!! It's like we know we aren't meant to be but we want to go against it at the same time.

Our synastry is very Pluto dominated as well which is crazy! Moon-Pluto double whammy with tight orbs both ways as well as a lot of 7th house, 8th house action. It was a very intense relationship. So much do a little part of me still holds on. I feel punished. It's bittersweet.

"Who cares what Destiny says? We love each other!" Would be a way to describe our love/ relationship.

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Ceridwen
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posted February 25, 2016 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My parents:


Pluto in 1st house conjunct Leo-ASC (4°21)
sextile Neptune in 2nd
trine Sun in 5th (6 minutes of orb)
trine Mercury in 5th (about 4 degrees)

Shortly after they met they started dating, then 3 years later got married had 3 children, one foster-child (temporarily), took in my aunt (as some kind of foster child? No clue how to categorize it), co-founded and shaped two different organizations (each one in their own so to speak) for the social integration of people with Down syndrome in particualr, but also other people who are mentally handicapped (my brother was born with the Down syndrome, that is probably what triggered them).

My dad was offered a job as diplomat about 3 times, he declined every of those 3 times, because he wanted to be able to share his time with his family and see his children grow up and not dragging my mom around from one hollow social caritative event to the other.


In a more personal way they have been married for 42 years in may, and they are still holding hands, hugging all the time, spending most time with each other, even though they occasionally clash because of hteir different personalities, but they work it out, it is more a teasing-clashing, too, not a real argument. They debate passionately, and they love to go on trips to gether, talk and dance.
In short they are an example of a love story that actually worked out in real life (though of course their lives had their hardships, but they steered through them, always sticking together, and the hardships were never in between them, but from external sources)

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Faith
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posted February 25, 2016 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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angel4845
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posted February 25, 2016 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@faith

Can you describe your composite 5th ruler pluto SQUARING your composite chart ruler moon? What's it like? Is this aspecting any of you and your husbands personal planets or midpoints or angles? Im very curious since most astrologers would count that as a wide orb but I defently want your experience on that would you mind elaborating on moon square pluto?

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posted February 25, 2016 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 25, 2016 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I guess it's a wide orb, just over 6 degrees, but since it's a luminary, I do think it counts.

Chart ruler square 5H ruler...I don't know, we could have a lot more fun than we do...I mean we have the money, freedom, ability to do more than we actually do. It's weird. I've talked about this on other threads because it's a whole theme with us, the "paring down" of luxuries and choosing a relatively stark life, materially speaking.

Also we have disagreements about how to raise our kids, but they aren't too serious.

ETA:

My Juno 19 Virgo conjunct c Pluto-Uranus
His moon/Venus midpoint 20 Virgo
My Vertex 23 Sag near moon


Yes i would count that especially since it is a luminary plus i believe everything in the chart even if they are wide aspects will be EVENTUALLY felt as the relationship progresses maybe not in the present it feels immediate but it does depend imo if both people are aspecting that aspect in the composite then they could feel it at first. what's your opinion?

i read more about pluto square the moon in a composite and what i found was that some astrologers seem to think that this moon square pluto in a composite makes the couple VERY irresistable towards each other. did you experience that with your husband in the beginning or later on?

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posted February 25, 2016 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our composite: (please do not quote the chart, I will remove it later , thanks!)


Pluto conjuncts ASC from the 12th.
My life is changing 360º because of him. There is a lot of potential for us to do what Ceridwen parents did. With this I mean, we have common causes that we wish to help and be involved with and we actually already do that.

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posted February 25, 2016 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@angel

Thanks for your interest.

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posted February 25, 2016 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Sunnya

I love it! Jupiter-moon is conjunct my 18 Pisces moon, too.

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posted February 25, 2016 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Faith

i See what you mean. that's so sweet awwwww sounds so romantic the way you describe it especially with the Progressed aspects in the composite. i didn't mean by progression. i just meant that the aspects in the composite will ALL be felt EVENTUALLY. i mean of course the tighter the aspect the MORE importance it has i understand that. but it is the birth chart of two people's energies no matter how wide of orb of aspect it is, it will be felt maybe just not as immediate as the tighter aspects imo. that's so lovely your aspects you listed

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posted February 26, 2016 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
@Sunnya

I love it! Jupiter-moon is conjunct my 18 Pisces moon, too.


Aww that's cool! If we ever need couple counseling (I hope not lol), we will come to you!

I love your composite with your husband too. I think I even see a beautiful butterfly there! (someone correct me if I am wrong)

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posted February 28, 2016 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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yungang_grotto
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posted February 28, 2016 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edit: here's the chart. I might have listed some orbs wrong below but mostly I think I got it

So in my current thing we have

Pluto conjunct MC (4 degrees, 9th house)
Pluto conjunct South Node (1 degree)
Pluto square Venus (6th house, 2 degreez) Sun, Mercury (12th house, 0 degrees and 3 degrees I think, respectively)
Pluto trine Jupiter (1st house, tight orb, under 1 degree)
Pluto sextile Neptune (2 degrees)
Pluto forms a yod with Eros and Juno (right?)
Pluto trine Ceres

I have given a lot of personal information about this relationship on this forum but not everything (yet! Lol)... it might be apparent from my thread currently up that there are jealousy and power issues to some extent; however interestingly they don't dominate the good feelings between us, not by a long shot.

The relationship has gone through many metamorphoses and is constantly shifting yet Sisto steadily growing (Jupiter trine Pluto?). Other dynamics keep the relating on a more or less steady keel but Pluto absolutely challenges us to constantly renew ourselves as a couple and feel into/deeply intuit and dredge up all of our issues and confront them. The amount of power and sway we hold over one another is intense. I am an immensely Plutonian person so this suits me... he is maybe the most intense person I've ever met lol and most people I know also find him extremely intense.

Interestingly we have chart ruler Uranus at the midpoint of Pluto and the Sun (semi square them both very tight). This Pluto/Sun=Uranus picture speaks to our willingness and effort at gaining personal power at Alvord any cost in order to make changes in the world and in ourselves.. we aren't scared to do the work. This we are inspired to do to great effect.

It isn't a light easy relationship by any stretch. It certainly does challenge us to do away with power games of any kind, as Robert Hand says. If we were to give in to them even a little bit I know it would be disastrous.

I have that feeling with him that Auby used to speak of a relating to a twin flame scenario. Now i don't subscribe to the twin flame thing especially (I don't know if she does either anymore), but I do feel like she was onto something when she said that to hurt the other person is to hurt yourself. That a truly loving relationship doesn't have those mean games going on so much. I mean.. it happens--and furthers self discovery when we are less than completely kind. But we get through it (Mercury aspecting Venus helps a lot with just putting things kindly, even when it's hard things we need to communicate). With Pluto square Mercury-Venus-Sun we are forced to bring up all the deepest urges and motivations and communicate about them as they have crucial bearing on the identity of the relationship. It is incredibly intense. I have Pluto conjunct Mercury in the 1st house natally and Pluto is my chart ruler, squaring my MC so again this is all kinda like home for me. My Pluto conjunct composite MC by the way, 2 degrees.

It's worth noting that the minute I think about making some move in order to get one over on him or make him suffer in an attempt to gain power I feel sick and my heart hurts. It does feel like to hurt him would be to hurt myself. Iq said that Pluto square Venus is a twin flame aspect. Maybe this is why. Not sure.

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yungang_grotto
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posted February 28, 2016 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto-Jupiter is possibly my favourite thing. I have the conjunction in my 9th harmonic conjunct IC. Natally I have Pluto/Jupiter=Sun and Pluto/Jupiter=Moon midpoint pictures on the 90 degree dial.

It rules regeneration of the organs according to Ebertin. I have experienced some ability to heal fractured bones within hours and to effect magical things in general; healing is maybe the most obviously magical. I'm saying this because it's meant to be informative not to brag. I am only powerful when I seek to be of true service and not for my own personal gain. But the power of Pluto and Jupiter combined is what I want to illustrate here. It is a 'creator of magical effects. '

Personal power is deserved when we are generous with it, is the Jupiter-Pluto takeaway message.

His Pluto-Jupiter midpoint is conjunct composite Moon-Amor-Anti-Vertex. My Pluto-Jupiter midpoint is 4 degrees away from opposite his and is conjunct composite Descendant/Davison Jupiter and this semizquares his Sun/Moon mp.

Composite Jupiter/Pluto trine is auspicious. We have the power to tackle anything we set our minds to because ofour bigness of spirit basically. The midpoint in composite is at 6 degrees Capricorn. Composite Neptune is at 4 degrees Cap. My Chiron is at 6 Cancer and his progressed Venus is at 5 Cancer. My Moon^Neptune fall at 8 degrees Capricorn. His 9th harmonic Sun/Moon midpoint is 6 Cap.

Anyway I could ramble for a while but I think in all the Pluto-Jupiter trine is a great blessing in this composite chart where Pluto rules the MC, is conjunct the MC and is in its domicile in Scorpio.. Jupiter in Pisces is also at home, and in the 1st house.

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