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Topic: Aspects between angle rulers
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mar1982delta Knowflake Posts: 516 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted March 13, 2016 06:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: I donīt quite know about semisextiles to be honest. Well Mr Sag`s Venus is semisextile my Sun with 0.01 orb. Is that important because of the exact orb or not, because it is ONLY a semisextile? I don`t know to be honest. What I DO know however is that when we met he had pSun conjunct his nVenus with 0.00 orb, so precise the night we met,w hich I found sort of interesting. And of course that means that his pSun was semisextile my nSun exact as well. Did that mean anything within all the other connections? Not sure. But it just struck me how precise these aspects were.
Interesting..really weird the exactness of the aspects. I haven't understood the semisextiles myself either, but this is kind of obvious, since I have still much more to learn than that
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Aunt Anomalia Knowflake Posts: 2035 From: Pandora's Box Tech Registered: Mar 2015
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posted March 13, 2016 06:17 PM
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mar1982delta Knowflake Posts: 516 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted March 13, 2016 06:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia: Pluto in the 3rd at his best I'll have a chocolate medal please
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Aunt Anomalia Knowflake Posts: 2035 From: Pandora's Box Tech Registered: Mar 2015
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posted March 13, 2016 06:20 PM
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 24687 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 14, 2016 05:34 AM
LOL Auntie, I doubt it. IP: Logged |
Vajra Moderator Posts: 1527 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 14, 2016 07:14 AM
Adding my data (current relationship, together about four years, known each other for eleven:- My R1 (Pluto) sext. his R10 (Mars), orb 1°21 - My R7 (Venus) sq. his R1 (Sun), orb 1°35 - My R4 (Neptune) tr. his R10 (Mars), orb 1°46 - My R4 (Neptune) semi-sext. his R4 (Venus) orb 0°01 (just mentioning this aspects because it's almost exact). Four such aspects, all below 2 degrees orb. The two angle rulers that are not aspecting one of the other's angle rulers are my R10 (Mercury) and his R7 (Uranus). However, this probably doesn't mean much, because instead, they do the following: - His R7 (Uranus) conj. my AC (orb 2°53) // my Uranus conj. his IC (2°11) => Uranus/angle DW - My R10 (Mercury) is also my R8, and it's opposite his R8 (Neptune) at orb 3°05. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 24687 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 14, 2016 07:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by Vajra:
- His R7 (Uranus) conj. my AC (orb 2°53) // my Uranus conj. his IC (2°11) => Uranus/angle DW
:thumbsupI pay a lot attention to angle rulers (and actually even other personal planets) conjuncting an angle. A LOT.
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 16322 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 14, 2016 12:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia: Too lazy for it right now.
My ASC-ruler: Sun My DSC-ruler: Uranus My IC-ruler: Venus My MC-ruler: Mars His ASC-ruler: Moon His DSC-ruler: Saturn His IC-ruler: Mercury His MC-ruler: Neptune My DSC-ruler, Uranus, is square his sun-Uranus, 1°, sextile his Venus almost exact, semisextile his moon (1°). His DSC-ruler, Saturn, is conjunct my Venus (1°), semisextile my Uranus (1°), novile my sun (1° +/-), trine my ASC exact. Okay sorry but I'm already bored. :-/ I was thinking recently that the semisextile between his and my DSCs rulers is a good representation of the whole energy between us. Interestingly we both have Moon = Saturn/Uranus midpoint *and* The midpoint between his Saturn and my Uranus falls around 21 Scorpio, conjunct my NN & his Vertex. I think our composite Neptune is there, too? Something is there in composite. For what it's worth, here's a reading for natal Saturn semisextile Uranus: quote: Saturn semi-sextile UranusYou can tolerate bureaucracies and outmoded systems to a point, but if the calcification, rigidity, and unresponsiveness is strong, you will rebel and refuse to cooperate.
I'm playing Uranus to his Saturn, and yeah I appreciate him keeping order until it's a pain in the neck and too restrictive. IP: Logged |
Aunt Anomalia Knowflake Posts: 2035 From: Pandora's Box Tech Registered: Mar 2015
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posted March 14, 2016 12:26 PM
So you only have 1 countable aspect with your hubby? Meh ------------------ The first psychic femdroid on the market. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 16322 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 14, 2016 12:42 PM
Taurus Mars, always greedy for more. * My IC-ruler conjunct his DSC-ruler. * My IC-ruler sextile his ASC-ruler. * My ASC-ruler is novile his DSC-ruler. * My DSC-ruler is semisextile his ASC- and DSC-rulers (on their MP). Most of these planets at 5-7° of their respective signs. IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 2295 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 14, 2016 01:33 PM
I think I'm going to reject the idea that there can be any association of sign rulership with the houses. A la deborah houlding?Well, I was never a house ruler fan but this beats everything; Just ONE~! A widish trine (and yes I took the co-rulers into account also / no minor either as far as I can see) Don't tell me this connection Is NOT significant because it IS ;D EDIT@ Anyone aware of more astrologers rejecting the idea of house rulership?
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 24687 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 14, 2016 02:40 PM
Nope, totally sold on houserulerships, especially in terms of angle-rulers. I have never seen it fail. Angle-rulers to angles and personal planets in particular. Even more impressive usually in progressed synastry.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 24687 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 14, 2016 02:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Taurus Mars, always greedy for more. * My IC-ruler conjunct his DSC-ruler. * My IC-ruler sextile his ASC-ruler. * My ASC-ruler is novile his DSC-ruler. * My DSC-ruler is semisextile his ASC- and DSC-rulers (on their MP). Most of these planets at 5-7° of their respective signs.
I often find the connection between IC-ruler and DESC-ruler or IC_ruler to DESC and DESCruler to IC.
Do you have any conjunctions between angle-rulers and the angles themselves? (to be honest Ifind them to be "stronger" than just the ruler among themselves, but then I find anything that touches the angles or luminaries as strong)
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mir Knowflake Posts: 2295 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 14, 2016 03:03 PM
Well, at least my 4th ruler (pluto) conjunct his Asc by 1 deg. That's it.And indeed in the progressed synastry it becomes rrrreally interesting. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 24687 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 14, 2016 03:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by mir: Well, at least my 4th ruler (pluto) conjunct his Asc by 1 deg. That's it.
But that`s formidable! *sighs* It`s not about quantity, but about quality and specific aspects (Read: close orb) and about progression, progression, progression. Seriously, I doubt even if all angle rulers are aligned and Venus-Mars, Sun-Moon, Venus-Uranus or whatever is present, IF the progressions do not indicate THIS is the time, anything would happen. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 16322 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 14, 2016 03:31 PM
quote: Do you have any conjunctions between angle-rulers and the angles themselves? (to be honest Ifind them to be "stronger" than just the ruler among themselves, but then I find anything that touches the angles or luminaries as strong)
Yes My husband's MC-ruler, Neptune, conjunct my IC, though it's wide, 3-4°. His Neptune on our composite sun as well, then. I think he just decided divorce is never an option, so whatever he doesn't like, he Neptunizes. IP: Logged |
mar1982delta Knowflake Posts: 516 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted March 14, 2016 03:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: But that`s formidable!*sighs* It`s not about quantity, but about quality and specific aspects (Read: close orb) and about progression, progression, progression. Seriously, I doubt even if all angle rulers are aligned and Venus-Mars, Sun-Moon, Venus-Uranus or whatever is present, IF the progressions do not indicate THIS is the time, anything would happen.
Ceri, so you are saying that we could do this comparison in the progressed charts too? In this case, I noticed the following : both pr. Dsc ruler AND IC ruler (mercury 25 virgo) conjunct both pr.IC axis (24 virgo) and pr. Dsc ruler (Saturn 24 virgo) pr. Dsc ruler (saturn 24 virgo) square pr. Asc ruler (Neptune 24 sag) pr.MC ruler (Neptune 23 sag) conjunct pr. Asc ruler (Neptune 24 sag) - don't know if that counts since they are both generational There are also some other connections to pr. angles, but I thought I'd better stick only to the angle-rulers! If anyone wants this extra info, I'd be glad to share them, too! ETA: Hi Faith!
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 24687 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 14, 2016 04:04 PM
Faith, I think 3-4 degrees for a conjunction with an angle is absolutely okay. And yes, Neptunians can very much neptunianize away what they do not want to see IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 24687 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 14, 2016 04:05 PM
Mar, I never know about the generational ones either, I usually prefer to have back up from the traditional rulers or other progressed aspects, but yes, of course we can compare progressed rulers as well. (though it can get much of course, and I never know what is more important the progressed planet that is ruling our natal DESC, or the progressed planet thta is ruling our progressed DESC) IP: Logged |
mar1982delta Knowflake Posts: 516 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted March 14, 2016 04:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Mar, I never know about the generational ones either, I usually prefer to have back up from the traditional rulers or other progressed aspects, but yes, of course we can compare progressed rulers as well. (though it can get much of course, and I never know what is more important the progressed planet that is ruling our natal DESC, or the progressed planet thta is ruling our progressed DESC)
Yes, I understand what you are saying..thanks! But LOL then I didn't understood your post before : could you please elaborate what did you mean by this ? "Angle-rulers to angles and personal planets in particular. Even more impressive usually in progressed synastry. " Do you mean preferably angle-rulers to angles and angle-rulers to personal planets instead of angle-rulers to angle-rulers? Thanks so much!
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 24687 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 14, 2016 04:14 PM
hm having said that I just realized, that pSaturn, the ruler of the pr ASC is applying to a conjunction with pDESC (1°16 a, not yet "serious", but might become important over the next year) pMoon ruler of the pDESC is applying to a conjunction to pVertex, which will hit in june this year, and at the same time it means that the pMoon-pVertex-conjunction will oppose pMercury exact, which is the ruler of the natal DESC.
at the same time the mentioned conjunction of rule of pASC to pDESC will have slipped under the 1 degree orb (that highlights the "intense-phase" is beginning). And a few days after that pMars will slip just under 1 degree of conjuncting nVenus as well (of course Mars rules the IC natally and Venus the MC as well as 5th house) just my own progressions of course, bu I like that.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 24687 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 14, 2016 04:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by mar1982delta: Do you mean preferably angle-rulers to angles and angle-rulers to personal planets instead of angle-rulers to angle-rulers? Thanks so much!
Yes. Angle-rulers to angle-rulers are also important, but I just find the conjunction to the actual angle that tad bit more spicey.
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yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2016 From: red river valley Registered: Mar 2014
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posted March 14, 2016 05:07 PM
My IC ruler Uranus doesn't aspect his angle rulers My Asc ruler Pluto opposite his Asc ruler Mercury My desc ruler Venus opposite his IC ruler the Sun My MC ruler the Sun quincunx his IC ruler the Sun His MC ruler Uranus doesn't aspect my angle rulers His desc ruler Jupiter doesn't aspect my angle rulers save a semi-sextile to Pluto, 3 degrees...IP: Logged |
thegrinning_cat Knowflake Posts: 210 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted March 14, 2016 06:47 PM
My Rulers:ASC Saturn DESC Moon MC Pluto IC Venus His Rulers:
ASC Mercury DESC Neptune / Jupiter MC Mercury IC Jupiter We have:
Neptune conjunct Venus (2 degree and DW with an Opposition) - DESC TO IC Jupiter opposite Venus (0.04) - DESC TO IC and IC TO IC Jupiter opposite Saturn (0.24 and DW with a Square ) IC TO ASC and DESC TO ASC Mercury square Venus (0.01 and DW with a sextile) ASC TO IC and MC TO IC IP: Logged |