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Astro keen
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posted March 14, 2016 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are there transits which commonly occur when this happens? The question is - can it be predicted?

This has been discussed in some old threads but would love to hear what was a trigger in your natals. Especially when meeting life partners.

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posted March 14, 2016 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this quote on a site:

"Once a year, we have this portal to meet a soul mate, and usually this occurs more than once a year. For example, this happens as the transiting Sun and Venus connect with your birth chart’s Saturn."

How does this sound?

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posted March 14, 2016 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Progressed planets to angles and natal planets are apparently a fairly reliable indicator. Pr. Venus to natal Sun, vice versa, and also progressed Venus to angles, in my case I recently met someone very important to me when progressed Venus was conjunct my natal Sun and my progressed Ascendant--classical indicators of a new love or an important one. I don't know whether we can predict life partners coming in per se. Saturn just crossed over my s.o.'s descendant and he is definitely not taking the notion of commitment lightly right now. For all the vascillation and hesitation though i can see how transiting Saturn could make a person much more serious about whatever undertaking is being undertook and it might last a long time.

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posted March 14, 2016 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
I found this quote on a site:

"Once a year, we have this portal to meet a soul mate, and usually this occurs more than once a year. For example, this happens as the transiting Sun and Venus connect with your birth chart’s Saturn."

How does this sound?


I don't know about that one. I think I'd look to progressions before transits personally. It could be valid and sounds interesting. Would expect to see something significant by progression also.

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posted March 14, 2016 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 14, 2016 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yungang, very helpful. But since a Sun (Venus, more frequently) would form a transit with a progressed angle or planet once a year, there must be other aspects too that would make meeting a partner more likely. Should there be more than one aspect playing a part?

Vajra, so if one is looking at a natal to predict such a possibility, it would be tJupiter conjunct or square an angle, right?

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posted March 14, 2016 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
Yungang, very helpful. But since a Sun (Venus, more frequently) would form a transit with a progressed angle or planet once a year, there must be other aspects too that would make meeting a partner more likely. Should there be more than one aspect playing a part?

I'm talkin about progressed Sun and Venus aspecting one another or the natal Sun/Venus/angles. Not transiting Sun and Venus. This doesn't happen often.

But it's going to be different for everyone... sometimes transits will seem to tell the story. It depends on where you're looking and what you're looking for


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posted March 14, 2016 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I met mine ( and I predicted it beforehand here on this forum) when


1. Solar Arc
SA Sun/South Node/DSC had began to arch towards my natal Venus, while SA Venus had began to arch towards my natal Sun/Node/DSC at the same time ( long term of 1 1/2 to 1 year time frame). This a very rare occurrence because it involved a double SA between the same planets.

2. Venus Return
My Venus return for the following year was very Venusian - Sun/Venus/Node/Valentine conjunction which was at the base of a kite and received a pleade of aspects- that narrowed the time frame to one year.

3. Transit
The approaching Solar Arc mentioned above repeated itself in a transit - I noticed that TR North Node will approach with a conjunction my natal Venus in July/August - which preceeded the SA conjunction and narrowed the time frame to 2 months.

4. Tertiary Progression
The Tertiary progression pinpointed the meeting to one particular month - August. The tertiary progressed ASC had moved to 17' Libra which was my natal Venus, and TP Uranus was exactly on top of it.

We started it all in August and it swept me off my feet!
At the time of the meeting, TRansiting Nodes were on my Venus, on his Saturn and his Sun.
I also had a Cindarella time - transiting conjunction of Venus/Jupiter/Valentine were 1 degree in an applying trine to my natal Chiron

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posted March 14, 2016 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 15, 2016 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I met my biggest love while progressed Venus was conjunct my natal Sun. Transiting Jupiter was conjunct my Ascendant, and Saturn was transiting through the 7th house. It was a beautiful relationship but it couldn't last, sadly.

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posted March 15, 2016 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange,

yours is a very rare (and straightforward) case, where really everything came together.

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posted March 15, 2016 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Orange,

yours is a very rare (and straightforward) case, where really everything came together.


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yes, I think so too, hunny. And the SA is still in effect until 2017

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posted March 15, 2016 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange,

This DW is really really something, tied to the angles and running like a thread through all the possible charts.

Actually you inspired me to check my own Venus-return-for the year I met Mr Sag, who even if not having lead to a romantic relationship definitely had a very transforming effect on my life. (and as time showed apparently I must have had some impact on him as well, be it from that first meeting on or somewhen later)

I had to laugh out loud when I saw that in the Venus Return chart ASC was EXACT on my natal Moon (and conjunct return Chiron by 1 degree or so). His Venus Return ASC fell exactly onto his own n Chiron. LOL
(which actually makes a Grand trine with his Mars-Jupiter-conjunction and my Venus).

(we also met with an exact transiting Chiron-NN-conjunction which was in orb for conjunct Neptune as well)


BTW I saw him on a concert 3 months prior to that first actual meeting (you know with talking) and well he saw me too on that concert, but there was no talking then so I do not count it as first meeting. Anyway that concert, after which I made the decision to have "another look at that strange guy" took place just a week after a solar ecclipse which was exactly conjunct my n Moon (and about 2 weeks before a lunar ecclipse which was exact on his n NN and his prenatal solar ecclipse; the Saturn of the actual first meeting three months later would be EXACT on that degree of the lunar ecclipse on his NN as well - no wonder I felt as if I had no choice but meeting him that night. I remember the most curious feeling as if acting out some kind of script, that in fact had already been written, just I did not know the words beforehand or the actions, but only in the actual moment. It was a strange and bizarre night. )

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posted March 15, 2016 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hear you, Cer

Yours and his Venus returns were accentuated.
I posted my Venus return in your thread about yods in venus returns, because i did have a yod involving venus in my then return. Check it out there

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posted March 15, 2016 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me and D. first re-met up on the day of my Venus return this November, which was just a couple weeks after my birthday. Same timing as the progressed aspects I mentioned. I believe in the Venus return

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posted March 15, 2016 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will have a look at the Venus-return-thread.

Actually I remember how I was doubling over with laughter when I realized that I - unintentionally- had picked the EXACT day for a re-connection (and trying to ground the connection more in the, I don`t know, just something that did not feel vague and where I did not feel like I was avoiding something, maybe simply acknowledging my Chirotic wound of paranoia and realizing that I had messed up due to that paranoia and manoevered me into that Neptunian corner, and just feeling like I wanted to act more grown-up. I hadn`t anticipated him to be THAT responsive though. He gave the impresion as if he had just WAITED for that. lol)

Anyway so on the very day of that re-meeting our composite had its Venus-Return! (just a few hours prior) and in fact there was an exact Saturn-Karma-conjunction on our composite MC (and square my n Moon) and we re-met just about 2 weeks after the solar ecclipse in november, which had been taking place on our composite ruler Uranus, and when we talked again, Tr Mercury had been hitting that spot.

I guess I need to keep an eye on those ecclipses

Which remindes me the recent ecclipse took place on my progressed Jupiter, n Juno and maybe most interesting (though not unchallenging) on the DESC-Chiron-conjunction in my current Venus-Return, which had just started the month before. lol

Oh, I didn`t realize, but well almost looks like a repetition of the one from back then with ASC-Chiron, or maybe the balancing Return to this.

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posted March 15, 2016 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is great stuff!

Is there a site where one can generate a Venus return chart? One can on astro.com after messing around a bit.

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posted March 15, 2016 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your post got me thinking about my own meeting with a soul mate. I don't know if this will be of interest to you at all since we only officially met a few years ago and are not currently in a serious relationship. Our meeting was very powerful for both of us however and our relationship is very special. Since this conversation peaked my curiosity, I thought I would share some interesting patterns I spotted in the offchance it might be useful.

The year we met, my Progressed chart was making a ton of tight aspects to my Natal. Notably on the day we met,
- My PMoon squared my NSun and SAMoon exactly. It also conjunct my PPof and NMC.
- My PVenus conjunct my NSun, NMerc and NDC within 2 degrees of each other
- PJupiter conjunt my NVenus within 2 degrees. This configuration conjuncts his NMoon.
- PNeptune opposed PMars and this aspect conjunct my NVertex exactly (we have a tight Mars-Netune DW in synastry)

Oddly, in both of our solar returns that year we had our ACs at 16 degrees Cancer and MCs at 26 degrees Pisces. His SRMC squared his NPluto exactly and conjunct his NDC by 5 degrees. My SRMC squared my NUranus exactly and opposed my NMoon by 5 degrees. Our SRAC's also conjunct my NVertex at 5 degrees and trined his NVertex at 5 degrees.

His chart had some interesting aspects including:
- His PVertex conjunct his NChiron and SAMoon within 3 degrees. This configuration conjuncts my NSun within 3 degrees
- His PMoon opposed his PNeptune exactly (we have a Moon - Neptune DW in synastry and an exact Moon opposite Neptune in our composite). This configuration conjuncts my NPof and NMC.
- His PVenus and PIC conjunct his NSN within 1 degree.

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posted March 15, 2016 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FmVenus,
Thanks for adding your astro story - yes, it is very useful and quite astonishing. Like others who have posted here. It strengthens one's belief in astrology

How was your meeting powerful? Always nice to hear .

PS: did you see the time on your post - 09.09? More synchronicity!

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posted March 16, 2016 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha, I didn't notice the timestamp! Hmmm, perhaps the 9 is trying to tell me something

Well, now that I try to type it out I realized that idk how to describe our meeting without sounding super cliche lol. We have a ton of Neptune contacts in synastry and our composite so when we met that was definitely felt from the beginning. We were brought together because of a funeral - someone he cared for very deeply passed away and he was pretty upset about it. He couldn't make it to the wake because of last minute work so we didn't connect. The next day I missed the funeral because of some last minute work so we missed another opportunity to connect. The next day we both decided, very last minute, to meet up for a get-together with mutual friends and family and that's where we finally connected. It was his last night in town and we both seriously considered skipping it - I always find that little sequence of events interesting

When we met, I could feel our Neptune-Moon DW immediately (though I didn't know that's what it was at the time). I suddenly felt emotions that I knew weren't my own - I felt hot and started turning bright red and felt like I was going to faint. I felt an overwhelming feeling of sadness and loss - like my mother had past away. I also felt an overwhelming urge to hug/comfort him and I felt slight physical pain in my chest. Idk how to describe it, but I could literally see experiences he had and I just knew things about him that no one else knew. After meeting him, the first month or so I would randomly burst out into tears for no reason when I thought about him and I started lucid dreaming for the first time.

I am not psychic or anything so it was a weird experience - I personally believe I was tapping in to some psychic link but I obviously can't say for sure lol. Apart from the crazy Neptune face-slap, we clicked immediately from the instant we met - we would say the same thing at the same time and our manner of speaking was the same, if that makes sense (Neptune-Mercury). We found we could finish each other's sentences and could communicate without speaking. It was a very interesting first meeting

Through our friendship we keep discovering eerie syncronicity between us. He also confessed to me a few months after knowing each other that he had the same reaction when we met including the random emotional outbursts. Strange but very interesting. That meeting was the reason I started pursuing Astrology more Just needed to try and make sense of it all. Not quite sure what it all means yet, as things are still relatively new in the grand scheme of things, but it is interesting to look back and start to see those patterns pop up.

I don't know if I'm more amazed that people can connect in these mystical ways or that Astrology is apparently the "energy map" that can guide us through and elaborate on those mystical experiences

Thanks for letting me derail your thread a bit Its really interesting to see the patterns in other people's charts so I'm excited to read more.

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posted March 16, 2016 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pretty amazing stuff, FmVenus!

Some people here would say he's your twin flame, but this is a controversial notion and one needs to ask what purpose can be served by believing it. Needless to say, you had a past life or an otherworldly link. Has the psychic connection changed in any way, since then?

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posted March 16, 2016 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are absolutely right yungang with Pr Venus/Sun.

Summer of 2012 during the blue moon an unexpected grande love came my way! Unfortunately it was very difficult to hold on to. Still hurts, and always will I think


This is my chart around that date:

Pr Venus/Vesta conjucts nSun, trine nJupiter and Pr ASC

Transit NN trine nSun/Pr Venus and nJupiter

There probably are a few more but I think these would be the most significant indicators

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posted March 16, 2016 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FM Venus,

your story touched me (and reminded me in certain parts of my own)

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posted March 16, 2016 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 16, 2016 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I was meeting Mr Sag, I had this:


1. Solar Arc
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sa Uranus conjunct n Mars 0°14 s

sa Mars square n Pluto 0°08 s
sa Juno square n Vertex 0°27 a

(sa Venus semisquare n Sun 0.45 a)
(sa Saturn sesisquare n Venus 0.06 a)

- I didn´t list all the 8th harmonic aspects but these I found interesting, usually I focus more on exact conjunctions and oppositions-


2. secondary progresssions
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pMercury conjunct pVenus 0.01s
pVenus conjunct pAvx 0.09s
pMercury conjunct pAvx 0.10 s

plus

pSun square pMoon 0.33s

- a first quarter Moon with Moon having JUST entered Taurus, and pSun having been on 29°59 Capricorn, passing into Aquarius the following week-


pAvx conjunct nMoon 0.47a
pVenus conjunct nMoon 0.56s
pMercury conjunct nMoon 0.57s

pMoon opposite nUranus (0.48a)
- hence the pquarter Moon made a T-square to my nUranus-

pJupiter conjunct nJuno 0°00


3. tertiary progressions
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tpSun conjunct tpASC 0.39a
tpSun square tpMoon 0.50a
tpMoon square tpASC 0.10s
- hence the first quarter Moon from the progressions was repeated in the tertiary progressions (the monthly progressions) and actually tp Moon was only in orb for this for about 2-3 days, and it was made angular in the progressed chart itself


tpMars conjunct tpIC 0.43a
tpMars square tp Vertex 0.09s
tpVertex square tpMC 0.33a


and tp to natal

tp ASC conjunct n Juno 1.02 s
tp Sun conjunct nJuno 1.42 s (maybe too wide)
tp Moon square n Juno 0.51 s

tp MC conjunct n Sun 0.36a
tp MC conjunct nMercury 0.16s
tp Mars opposite n Sun 0.06s
tp Mars opposite n Mercury 0.59s


3. Solar Return
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Venus trine Uranus 0°01 s
- while i usually focus on 4th armonic aspects, this one was really close


Sun conjunct Mercury 0.20s
Sun conjunct Pluto 2.41
Jupiter conjunct Pluto 1.14
Mercury conjunct Pluto 2.21
Mercury conjunct Jupiter 3.35
Sun conjunct Jupiter 3.55
Moon conjunct IC 2.23


BTW Venus in that Return chart was within just a couple minutes of where it is in the current return chart, also in 12th house. and 11th house natally. lol Cycles, I tell you.


SR to my natal

ASC conjunct ASC 2.33
ASC conjunct NN 0.35
ASC conjunct Neptune 0.22
(btw the first meeting charts ASC was exactly conjunct this spot as well!)


MC conjunct Pluto 0.05
Vx conjunct Vx 2.53
Moon conjunct IC 1.53
Moon opposite Pluto 2.53
Saturn oppospite Jupiter 2.38
Saturn square Neptune-NN 1.35/1.22
(I mention this because in the current one I have Saturn CONJUNCT Neptune-NN)

Venus was not doing much just a bunch of trines to Saturn, (Jupiter), Juno (completing a Grand Trine)

Oh and a Venus-Moon-square-DW from SR to n

Mars opposite Venus 0.55

Mercury cojunct Sun 0.20
Mercury conjunct Mercury 1.13
Jupiter conjunct Sun 3.55
Jupiter conjunct Mercury 4.49

Juno conjunct Mars 2.01

Uranus conjunct Jupiter 3.48
Uranus conjunct Juno 1.57

Neptune conjunct Moon 2.45
Pluto conjunct Sun 2.41
Pluto conjunct Mercury 3.35

4. Venus-Return
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Chiron conjunct ASC 1.33
Mercury conjunct Neptune 2.37
Uranus conjunct Avx 2.42
Uranus square Juno 0.16
Venus conjunct Jupiter 3.12

VR to my natal

ASC conjunct Moon 0.16
Chiron conjunct Moon 1.49
MC conjunct NN 1.17
MC conjunct Neptune 1.30
Avx conjunct Jupiter 2.34
Moon conjunct Uranus 2.17
Saturn square ASC 0.06
Mars opposite Sun 1.10
Mars opposite Mercury 0.57
Uranus conjunct Juno 0.28

5. Lunar Return (for the month)
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ASC trine Chiron 0.05 (!) - mentioning it because the VenusReturn had the conjunction

Uranus square ASC 0.27

Neptune conjunct NN 0.28
(natal repetition)
Neptune square Mercury 0.32
NN square Mercury 1.01

Sun conjunct Avx 0.50


Pluto conjunct Juno 1.36

Moon conjunct MC 1.38

Mars opposite Jupiter 2.13

Venus trine Pluto 2.34
(the soft version of my natal square)


Neptune conjunct Chiron 3.16
Moon conjunct Chiron 3.40
NN conjunct Chiron 3.44


Venus square Mars 3.57


LR to my natal

MC conjunct Moon 1.38
Mars conjunct Vertex 2.57
Jupiter conjunct Avx 0.43
Juno conjunct Sun 3.24

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