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ChildofVenus
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posted March 20, 2016 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does the Venus opposition pluto aspect in synastry out weight the venus trine pluto aspect in composite?

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posted March 21, 2016 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 22, 2016 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you mean by "out weigh"? Which one is stronger? I'd say the opposition would be stronger, but I guess it could play out like the trine in the composite. I believe the composite is said to be how other people see your relationship, so while the Venus/Pluto opposition could possibly be tumultuous/passionate and a bit consuming to the individuals involved, you might play it out so others view it as a flowing, relaxed, slow and simmering type of passion.

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posted March 22, 2016 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What orbs should you use in Venus/Pluto?

I have a Pluto/Venus right now with someone at 7 orb--he's Venus. Does he feel this? (He has Pluto conjunct Venus natally)...

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posted March 23, 2016 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
What orbs should you use in Venus/Pluto?

I have a Pluto/Venus right now with someone at 7 orb--he's Venus. Does he feel this? (He has Pluto conjunct Venus natally)...


It's possible, some people like to use up to 10° for hard aspects. Do you have any other Pluto aspects in synastry or composite/Davison?

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posted March 23, 2016 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
It's possible, some people like to use up to 10° for hard aspects. Do you have any other Pluto aspects in synastry or composite/Davison?

Hi--we do.

Pluto conjunct Moon at 4-5 (don't know his birth time)
..and a few aspects with the outside planets.

Composite:
Pluto conjunct Venus 5 orb
Pluto Square Mars 5 orb

These eclipses have put a real strain on us!

Are these being felt? Or too wide?

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posted March 23, 2016 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Hi--we do.

Pluto conjunct Moon at 4-5 (don't know his birth time)
..and a few aspects with the outside planets.

Composite:
Pluto conjunct Venus 5 orb
Pluto Square Mars 5 orb

Composite Davidson Corrected:
Pluto Square Moon 9 orb
...and some with the outer planets

These eclipses have put a real strain on us!

Are these being felt? Or too wide?



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posted March 26, 2016 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
[b] Hi--we do.

Pluto conjunct Moon at 4-5 (don't know his birth time)
..and a few aspects with the outside planets.

Composite:
Pluto conjunct Venus 5 orb
Pluto Square Mars 5 orb

Composite Davidson Corrected:
Pluto Square Moon 9 orb
...and some with the outer planets

These eclipses have put a real strain on us!

Are these being felt? Or too wide?


[/B][/QUOTE]

I'd say that the square is too wide in Davison, but the rest are valid. This relationship seems pretty intense, how long have you been together?

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posted March 26, 2016 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought the composite chart was the actual relationship. We also have Venus trine Pluto in the Davison chart it's a -1°09 orb. In synastry it's Venus opposition pluto -7°28 and composite it's Venus trine Pluto 0°41
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What do you mean by "out weigh"? Which one is stronger? I'd say the opposition would be stronger, but I guess it could play out like the trine in the composite. I believe the composite is said to be how other people see your relationship, so while the Venus/Pluto opposition could possibly be tumultuous/passionate and a bit consuming to the individuals involved, you might play it out so others view it as a flowing, relaxed, slow and simmering type of passion.

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posted May 13, 2016 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lhanze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i had my moon-pluto opposed by someone's venus and his pluto square my venus. no such composite aspects though.

it was the most tormental relationship full of quarells and dissatisfaction. with these aspects should be very careful i think. otherwise this big love that you feel from the beginning turns into hate and mutual humiliation and manipulation..ah

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posted May 13, 2016 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought Venus/Pluto aspects were suppose to be sexual in synastry/composite. I don't know people say so many different things it's confusing.
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i had my moon-pluto opposed by someone's venus and his pluto square my venus. no such composite aspects though.

it was the most tormental relationship full of quarells and dissatisfaction. with these aspects should be very careful i think. otherwise this big love that you feel from the beginning turns into hate and mutual humiliation and manipulation..ah


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posted May 13, 2016 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus Pluto opposition can be really challenging because it's heightening certain aspects of your psyche and can blow things out of proportion and make them seem worse than they are or more devious. I recently experienced transiting Venus opposition my Pluto so I was in touch with that energy and it really threw me for a loop for a few days... I can sorta say based on that that I don't particularly favour this particular opposition although I'm sure it could work out differently given different surrounding factors (there was other stuff at play for me as well but this transit was the one I identified as causing my over the top reactions...)

Of course it can also be very attractive magnetic etc etc etc. But I'd be careful with this one.

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posted May 13, 2016 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So how do you think the opposition will play out between two people in synastry?
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Venus Pluto opposition can be really challenging because it's heightening certain aspects of your psyche and can blow things out of proportion and make them seem worse than they are or more devious. I recently experienced transiting Venus opposition my Pluto so I was in touch with that energy and it really threw me for a loop for a few days... I can sorta say based on that that I don't particularly favour this particular opposition although I'm sure it could work out differently given different surrounding factors (there was other stuff at play for me as well but this transit was the one I identified as causing my over the top reactions...)

Of course it can also be very attractive magnetic etc etc etc. But I'd be careful with this one.


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posted May 13, 2016 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing is solely sexual... you do need to do other stuff for 99% of the day, and these aspects will still be at play in other areas. If in my Mars square Pluto relationship it had been nothing but sex all would have been fine and dandy. (Unfortunately we also would have killed each other from over exertion). Thing is that kind of energy, while potentially very sexy, also has other consequences and manifestations, and not all of them have anything at all to do with sex...

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posted May 13, 2016 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
So how do you think the opposition will play out between two people in synastry?

Exactly what I said: Venus Pluto opposition can be really challenging because it's heightening certain aspects of your psyche and can blow things out of proportion and make them seem worse than they are or more devious.

It can create obsession, and a lack of perspective. There may be a great desire for a person but it is often frustrated or confused by the intensity of the emotion and desire to relate at all costs, which can have the additional effect of clouding rational thought... We might hope for a lot of logical, clear-headed, grounding influences in a synastry which featured this aspect to counteract the unsettling, unbalancing effect of it...

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posted May 13, 2016 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this the feeling of the Venus or the Pluto person? I'm the Venus person. So should I look at the other persons Pluto? I've read that Pluto is usually the one who's obsessed but maybe not. I wonder if the Venus trine Pluto would make the opposition easier.
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Exactly what I said: Venus Pluto opposition can be really challenging because it's heightening certain aspects of your psyche and can blow things out of proportion and make them seem worse than they are or more devious.

It can create obsession, and a lack of perspective. There may be a great desire for a person but it is often frustrated or confused by the intensity of the emotion and desire to relate at all costs, which can have the additional effect of clouding rational thought... We might hope for a lot of logical, clear-headed, grounding influences in a synastry which featured this aspect to counteract the unsettling, unbalancing effect of it...


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posted May 13, 2016 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 13, 2016 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know who will feel what or how they'll feel it honestly. It's going to be depending a lot on their charts and what their Venus and Pluto are all about. Pluto is the more likely of the two to feel overwhelmed by the interaction whereas Venus is more like feeling the fatal attraction kinda deal. My guess. But both could feel each of these things. There could be a good deal of repulsion mixed in with the attraction, especially on Pluto's part.

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posted May 13, 2016 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wouldn't the Venus trine Pluto aspect in the composite and Davison charts help with the Venus/Pluto opposition in synastry?
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I don't know who will feel what or how they'll feel it honestly. It's going to be depending a lot on their charts and what their Venus and Pluto are all about. Pluto is the more likely of the two to feel overwhelmed by the interaction whereas Venus is more like feeling the fatal attraction kinda deal. My guess. But both could feel each of these things. There could be a good deal of repulsion mixed in with the attraction, especially on Pluto's part.

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posted May 13, 2016 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I think that it might help some. I mean it isn't inherently bad just overwhelming, the opposition, I think. As one poster said above--consuming. A good word for it. So you need aspects which will give perspective. Something else. The trine will enable the flow of energy between Venus and Pluto in an easier way and make for more harmony and loving vibes but it still carries the Venus Pluto vibration of intensity forward.

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posted May 13, 2016 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I just thought there were some aspects that were strictly sexually related.
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Nothing is solely sexual... you do need to do other stuff for 99% of the day, and these aspects will still be at play in other areas. If in my Mars square Pluto relationship it had been nothing but sex all would have been fine and dandy. (Unfortunately we also would have killed each other from over exertion). Thing is that kind of energy, while potentially very sexy, also has other consequences and manifestations, and not all of them have anything at all to do with sex...

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posted May 13, 2016 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok and I'm guessing since we have Venus/Pluto aspects in each chart it probably makes the feelings more intense?
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Yes I think that it might help some. I mean it isn't inherently bad just overwhelming, the opposition, I think. As one poster said above--consuming. A good word for it. So you need aspects which will give perspective. Something else. The trine will enable the flow of energy between Venus and Pluto in an easier way and make for more harmony and loving vibes but it still carries the Venus Pluto vibration of intensity forward.

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posted May 13, 2016 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Ok I just thought there were some aspects that were strictly sexually related.

No... they're all multidimensional although lots of things about human nature will boil down to sexuality especially if you're so inclined... especially in a natal chart with libidinous aspects you can be forgiven for thinking so

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posted May 13, 2016 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I have a question because I have Venus semis quarry Moon. Would that make me feel attracted to a man who has Venus square Moon in his natal chart?
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No... they're all multidimensional although lots of things about human nature will boil down to sexuality especially if you're so inclined... especially in a natal chart with libidinous aspects you can be forgiven for thinking so

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