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Topic: Will this person and I get along? Advice needed.
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ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 708 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 02, 2016 01:34 AM
Hi,I need to know immediately the following: 1) Will this person and I get along? Why or Why not? 2) Is Karma in play--if so, in what way? 3) Is this short term or long term? ANY insight would be great appreciated. I'm in dire need of insight. **Please note, I don't know his birth time. He is person 2. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 64948 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 03, 2016 02:23 PM
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abrightfutureahead Knowflake Posts: 111 From: kent uk Registered: Feb 2015
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posted April 03, 2016 04:52 PM
I personally don't see this match being very good. I say this as the aspects that would make good chemistry between you are too wide to be a significant "match".A lot of Saturn aspecfs(restriction) and Chiron (wounding- this person could cause you pain.) I notice you have a double whammy sun/descendant aspected. Did you meet this person at work? There's something at play here regarding your image and career vice versa, from what I can gather. On a positive note, Saturn sextile moon aspect is nice, could make this relationship last for a time. moon opposition sun could indicate some soul connection. I would be wary of Chiron and how this person would reflect on your self image. If my calculation is right that you possibly work together, that could get messy. Let me know! IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 708 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 03, 2016 11:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by abrightfutureahead: I personally don't see this match being very good. I say this as the aspects that would make good chemistry between you are too wide to be a significant "match".A lot of Saturn aspecfs(restriction) and Chiron (wounding- this person could cause you pain.) I notice you have a double whammy sun/descendant aspected. Did you meet this person at work? There's something at play here regarding your image and career vice versa, from what I can gather. On a positive note, Saturn sextile moon aspect is nice, could make this relationship last for a time. moon opposition sun could indicate some soul connection. I would be wary of Chiron and how this person would reflect on your self image. If my calculation is right that you possibly work together, that could get messy. Let me know!
ABrightFutureAhead--you are good! Yes, we do work together. However, the moon aspects from his side may not be accurate given that I don't know his birth time. Can you explain further about how this synastry will play out? What about that Venus/Moon? That has to help.. Pluto/Moon? As for Chiron--do you have to have exact birth time to be accurate--is it like the outer planets? I haven't considered the Chiron aspects, but I'm also not all that well versed on those...
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ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 708 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 04, 2016 06:10 PM
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llewsacm Knowflake Posts: 341 From: Cleveland, Ohio USA Registered: Mar 2015
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posted April 04, 2016 10:13 PM
Post the synastry and composite charts. It helps to see house and sign activation together. Moon and Venus is sweet...nice friendship aspect. Lets see how the charts look...upload via tinypic. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 708 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 04, 2016 10:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by llewsacm: Post the synastry and composite charts. It helps to see house and sign activation together. Moon and Venus is sweet...nice friendship aspect. Lets see how the charts look...upload via tinypic.
Sure, here you go! Just keep in mind I don't know his birth time, so overlays will not be accurate. He is on the inside. Synastry: Composite: IP: Logged |
llewsacm Knowflake Posts: 341 From: Cleveland, Ohio USA Registered: Mar 2015
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posted April 05, 2016 10:26 PM
Well, here is my take on it. You have a lot going on that is high energy...you have the ability to trigger each other...sun in same sign, Venus too...there is a familiarity but also action with these connections. May I ask why you need feedback on this immediately? What is happening? Moon mars squares make me think there is an underlying attraction but caution at the same time perhaps. I'm doing this from memory from your charts, and after today, my memory isnt on par so excuse any errors. I just wanted to be sure to respond today before I collapsed. Lol. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 708 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 06, 2016 01:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by llewsacm: Well, here is my take on it. You have a lot going on that is high energy...you have the ability to trigger each other...sun in same sign, Venus too...there is a familiarity but also action with these connections. May I ask why you need feedback on this immediately? What is happening? Moon mars squares make me think there is an underlying attraction but caution at the same time perhaps. I'm doing this from memory from your charts, and after today, my memory isnt on par so excuse any errors. I just wanted to be sure to respond today before I collapsed. Lol.
Thank you so much for your response. I need to know--because this interaction/relationship is affecting me in a really negative way. During both of the eclipses in March--we had significant negative experiences with each other. It always feels like he is either doting on me to keep me at my job--or now, as if he can't stand me at all. I want to know if I should work things out with him--or look for another job. If there's Karma--I'd rather stick it out and resolve it. If not--then I want to move on from this very heavy energy that I feel with him. It's not been the easiest job change for me... Is this person attracted to me? IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 708 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 06, 2016 01:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by llewsacm: Well, here is my take on it. You have a lot going on that is high energy...you have the ability to trigger each other...sun in same sign, Venus too...there is a familiarity but also action with these connections. May I ask why you need feedback on this immediately? What is happening? Moon mars squares make me think there is an underlying attraction but caution at the same time perhaps. I'm doing this from memory from your charts, and after today, my memory isnt on par so excuse any errors. I just wanted to be sure to respond today before I collapsed. Lol.
Also--can you tell me what you mean be a lot going on energy wise? What aspects are you seeing that attribute to this? Someone else also mentioned Chiron-should I be worried? IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 708 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 06, 2016 09:37 PM
Bumping!Need to make a decision ASAP on this person...:/ IP: Logged |
abrightfutureahead Knowflake Posts: 111 From: kent uk Registered: Feb 2015
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posted April 07, 2016 05:35 AM
Hi. Wow I'm pretty chuffed with myself on my prediction that you work together. Seeing that your sun is badly aspecting his DC. I think he may be cautious that you will negatively effect his career, or you are asking to much of him.Chiron square Saturn - have a look into this energy, I would caution this. Maybe it's best to distance yourself at work for the sake of your career. Sun conjunct Mercury, although you find it easy to relate on an intellectual level, emotionally this man doesn't have much to offer you but friendship. Sexual attraction is likely there Mars sextile Venus. But do you really want to have a fling and feel awkward going to work afterwards if things go pear shaped? I would suggest you consider who this will impact you in future, especially as from what I can gather, this man may be your possible manager/employer, who may already be in a relationship IP: Logged |
llewsacm Knowflake Posts: 341 From: Cleveland, Ohio USA Registered: Mar 2015
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posted April 07, 2016 08:00 AM
Scorpi- His angles are going to be off without his birth time, but his Saturn is on your mars. He may be stifling your expression or drive in some way. He may be uncomfortable with the way you assert yourself on the job, but secretly long to be that way, which might cause him to feel inadequate in some way. Try tuning into how you are expressing yourself and see it from that perspective to determine if this might be the cause of him lashing out. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 708 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 07, 2016 11:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by abrightfutureahead: Hi. Wow I'm pretty chuffed with myself on my prediction that you work together. Seeing that your sun is badly aspecting his DC. I think he may be cautious that you will negatively effect his career, or you are asking to much of him.Chiron square Saturn - have a look into this energy, I would caution this. Maybe it's best to distance yourself at work for the sake of your career. Sun conjunct Mercury, although you find it easy to relate on an intellectual level, emotionally this man doesn't have much to offer you but friendship. Sexual attraction is likely there Mars sextile Venus. But do you really want to have a fling and feel awkward going to work afterwards if things go pear shaped? I would suggest you consider who this will impact you in future, especially as from what I can gather, this man may be your possible manager/employer, who may already be in a relationship
You are amazing! Wow--such great insight.Can you please tell me more -- around the Karma piece? IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 708 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 07, 2016 11:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by llewsacm: Scorpi- His angles are going to be off without his birth time, but his Saturn is on your mars. He may be stifling your expression or drive in some way. He may be uncomfortable with the way you assert yourself on the job, but secretly long to be that way, which might cause him to feel inadequate in some way. Try tuning into how you are expressing yourself and see it from that perspective to determine if this might be the cause of him lashing out.
llewsacm--you are so accurate--I do feel stifled by him!! He does not like assertiveness by a woman... IP: Logged |
abrightfutureahead Knowflake Posts: 111 From: kent uk Registered: Feb 2015
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posted April 08, 2016 05:26 AM
A square between Saturn and Chiron in synastry is called the ‘Heartbreak Clash’ and indicates that the relationship will definitely end acrimoniously, causing heartbreak and humiliation for one of the parties involved (especially the Chiron person, i.e. Yourself. XIP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 708 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 08, 2016 11:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by abrightfutureahead: A square between Saturn and Chiron in synastry is called the ‘Heartbreak Clash’ and indicates that the relationship will definitely end acrimoniously, causing heartbreak and humiliation for one of the parties involved (especially the Chiron person, i.e. Yourself. X
Hi--but isn't that an interpretation in Magi Astrology? Do you have to use a different chart to see Magi aspects? IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 708 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 09, 2016 05:09 PM
OK--I've decided to stay--and work this out.Can you let me know areas to watch for and areas to build? Does anyone else think the Saturn Square Chiron is a deal breaker? IP: Logged |
llewsacm Knowflake Posts: 341 From: Cleveland, Ohio USA Registered: Mar 2015
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posted April 09, 2016 05:25 PM
I think he might want you to recognize his contribution in the work environment, to back him up in a sense. Your mars Leo energy may be too over the top for him sometimes and that's when it starts to feel to him like you are in competition with one another.He feels deeply, and can be on top of the world and warm/inviting one minute, but if he feels like someone is outdoing him or trying to make him look less than, he will turn cold. Try being a true partner with him. Tell him when he has good ideas and help him promote himself and feel good about those ideas. Only if you feel they are good. Dont sacrifice your own drive with this. Ask him for his opinion. You definitely have enough aspects between your charts to make this work in a positive way. What do you do together at work? Glad you are sticking it out. 😊
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ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 708 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 09, 2016 05:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by llewsacm: I think he might want you to recognize his contribution in the work environment, to back him up in a sense. Your mars Leo energy may be too over the top for him sometimes and that's when it starts to feel to him like you are in competition with one another.He feels deeply, and can be on top of the world and warm/inviting one minute, but if he feels like someone is outdoing him or trying to make him look less than, he will turn cold. Try being a true partner with him. Tell him when he has good ideas and help him promote himself and feel good about those ideas. Only if you feel they are good. Dont sacrifice your own drive with this. Ask him for his opinion. You definitely have enough aspects between your charts to make this work in a positive way. What do you do together at work? Glad you are sticking it out. 😊
What aspects did you take into consideration to get to that conclusion? What does he like about me and that I should keep doing? We both are in business development--he's my immediate boss. March was a crazy tough month--it wasn't until on Thursday I went to him to ask about an account--he changed a bit. We were both avoiding each other--and him especially--he was ignoring my emails,etc, I was really disappointed by this behavior--felt it was really immature. Made me realize there are some areas of improvement as far as emotional maturity. Is he attracted to me? Sometimes I wonder if some of this behavior is some underlying sexual tension. He's married with kids--so this is NOT anything I'd want to explore. But if he is feeling that way--i will want to think of ways to not egg on that energy. He's got some of dark ugly energy that comes out sometime--plays a lot of mind/emotional games to get what he wants. IP: Logged |
llewsacm Knowflake Posts: 341 From: Cleveland, Ohio USA Registered: Mar 2015
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posted April 10, 2016 09:08 AM
Based on the info you have at hand, I think this may be coming from his venus/pluto and the mars/saturn aspect I mentioned earlier.It appears you need to be the bigger person here, even tho you report to him. It's not clear to me if there is a sexual attraction at play, house overlays would be more telling. I would guess that you will need to keep coaxing him to communicate, given you were both avoiding each other. If he was more open when you approached him, maybe that's what he needs to keep the line of communication open going forward. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 708 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 10, 2016 12:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by llewsacm: Based on the info you have at hand, I think this may be coming from his venus/pluto and the mars/saturn aspect I mentioned earlier.It appears you need to be the bigger person here, even tho you report to him. It's not clear to me if there is a sexual attraction at play, house overlays would be more telling. I would guess that you will need to keep coaxing him to communicate, given you were both avoiding each other. If he was more open when you approached him, maybe that's what he needs to keep the line of communication open going forward.
What about that Moon/Pluto? I keep thinking of that. The Venus/Pluto seems too wide... IP: Logged |
llewsacm Knowflake Posts: 341 From: Cleveland, Ohio USA Registered: Mar 2015
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posted April 10, 2016 03:23 PM
I was referring to his natal venus/pluto. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 708 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 10, 2016 11:45 PM
Got it. What about Venus Pluto creates that darkness?And the Moon/Pluto -- significant? I hear it is karmic? IP: Logged |
llewsacm Knowflake Posts: 341 From: Cleveland, Ohio USA Registered: Mar 2015
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posted April 11, 2016 10:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpieScorp: Got it. What about Venus Pluto creates that darkness?And the Moon/Pluto -- significant? I hear it is karmic?
He can be at odds with himself at times. I believe there is an amount of insecurity that accompanies this natal aspect which would contribute to his hot/cold behavior. When not in control, it can be seen as manipulative. I think you are quite intuitive by suggesting it is possible moon/pluto holds a karmic tie. IP: Logged |