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ChildofVenus
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posted April 05, 2016 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been talking about this guy for the longest on here. It's not that I'm in love with him but it feels like obsession. It's like I can't get him out of my mind. I'm always wanting him in a sexual way. Even though we don't even live near each other. We've been intimate once and ever since then I haven't been able to stop thinking about having sex with him. I don't know how to deal with it anymore. Sometimes I feel like the desire will drive me crazy. Is there a reason for this? I mean we do have a lot of sexual aspects in synastry.

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posted April 05, 2016 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if you have a lot of sexual aspects in synastry, you probably just answered your own question...but, it could also be that naturally human desire to want what you can't have, especially if it's not readily available. You have put your first and only intimate experience with him on a pedestal and are now left wanting to re-live that experience. It happens.

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posted April 05, 2016 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's not my first though but he was my first real intimate encounter. I do want to relive it again am I wrong for feeling this way
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Well, if you have a lot of sexual aspects in synastry, you probably just answered your own question...but, it could also be that naturally human desire to want what you can't have, especially if it's not readily available. You have put your first and only intimate experience with him on a pedestal and are now left wanting to re-live that experience. It happens.

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posted April 05, 2016 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He's not my first though but I've never been intimate with another man like I was with him. Yes I do want to relive the experience. Am I wrong for feeling this way?

No, you're just being a normal human

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posted April 05, 2016 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely not wrong for feeling that way! It's so important to accept our own feelings and uncover our desires and motivations and love ourselves unconditionally; it frees us up to make the best decisions for ourselves. Self love is empowering (and attractive!)-- but first and foremost it fills us up and gives us a kind of satisfaction such that we don't NEED approval from others but can still WANT their care and love, and then we have more power in any given situation... does that make sense? I mean we all have needs and that's good too but if you're coming from the place of inner strength where you're accepting yourself as you are, and acknowledging your own needs and desires as valid, you're well positioned to get what you need.

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posted April 06, 2016 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I felt that way for years about someone and they were not even that good looking.

I chalked it up to their Venus in my 8th because I couldn't see much else. There was Pluto square mars but I have that with others and definitely don't feel that way about them.
Heck, I guess I'm still not entirely sure. After several years (6-7 years) it's mostly gone. Sometimes they don't seem at all attractive to me now.

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posted April 06, 2016 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It might be a temporary thing in the progressions Child.

Is there anything with Venus/Mars going on?

If you have no idea how to look at those, then give the sign and degrees of his natal Venus and Mars + his progressed Venus and Mars, and I will look at it (I know yours).

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posted April 06, 2016 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thegrinning_cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would watch out for Pluto Connections....I'm experiencing this with a person I have Pluto/Mars, Pluto/Venus DW in Synastry with, Pluto is also exactly sextile to Mars in Composite.

Also a Neptune/Mars and Neptune/Venus DW that shows up in Composite, too....

Pluto is the "amour fou"-factor and Neptune the godfather of strong fantasies.

If you have a strong Neptune in your Natal and the relationship activated it in some way, it can be very difficult to let go of that experience....I suffered from that three times in my life....excessive dreaming and hoping didn't stop until a final point of disappointment, where I lost interest.
Neptune was conjunct, opposite and in the current thing square Venus....

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posted April 06, 2016 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes we do have Venus square Mars in synastry. I sure hope I get to relive that experience. Temporary? It's been almost a year and I still can't stop thinking about it. I almost had my chance again a couple of months ago. But I blew it so now I'm even more frustrated. I just want this to happen again.

I don't know his birth time so I just used 12:00pm

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It might be a temporary thing in the progressions Child.

Is there anything with Venus/Mars going on?

If you have no idea how to look at those, then give the sign and degrees of his natal Venus and Mars + his progressed Venus and Mars, and I will look at it (I know yours).


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posted April 06, 2016 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why were you disappointed?
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Originally posted by thegrinning_cat:
I would watch out for Pluto Connections....I'm experiencing this with a person I have Pluto/Mars, Pluto/Venus DW in Synastry with, Pluto is also exactly sextile to Mars in Composite.

Also a Neptune/Mars and Neptune/Venus DW that shows up in Composite, too....

Pluto is the "amour fou"-factor and Neptune the godfather of strong fantasies.

If you have a strong Neptune in your Natal and the relationship activated it in some way, it can be very difficult to let go of that experience....I suffered from that three times in my life....excessive dreaming and hoping didn't stop until a final point of disappointment, where I lost interest.
Neptune was conjunct, opposite and in the current thing square Venus....


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posted April 06, 2016 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you post his progressed chart also Child?

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posted April 06, 2016 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What can you see? Because I don't know his birth time.


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Can you post his progressed chart also Child?

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posted April 06, 2016 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aaghhhh child, thereeeeeeeeee we have the answer, I could smell it~!

Your progressed Venus 3'45 Taurus
His progressed Mars 3'59 Scorpio

!! (applying)

Those progressed aspects (p to p) are long sexual attraction periods and usually start when a progressed aspect is applying by 1 to 2 degrees. And look at that ^ applying by minutessss at the moment. So yea that definitely explains it all. When it all started between you it was already applying within 1 degree. And even: the tighter to the peak the more you feel it and it's almost exact!

After some months it will slowly fade away as then your progressed Venus will start its separating course.

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It's been almost a year and I still can't stop thinking about it.

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posted April 06, 2016 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So should I give in? Or just let it fade? Also what about the other sexual aspects we have in synastry? Won't those still be felt? I really don't know if it will fade because I've been feeling sexually attracted to him ever since we first started interacting. Which was two years ago I think some of these sexual aspects are the reason for this. I've always felt sexually attracted to him but it's never been this strong before. We have a lot of those aspects in synastry. Honestly I don't want the feeling to fade lol.
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Aaghhhh child, thereeeeeeeeee we have the answer, I could smell it~!

Your progressed Venus 3'45 Taurus
His progressed Mars 3'59 Scorpio

!! (applying)

Those progressed aspects (p to p) are long sexual attraction periods and usually start when a progressed aspect is applying by 1 to 2 degrees. And look at that ^ applying by minutessss at the moment. So yea that definitely explains it all. When it all started between you it was already applying within 1 degree. And even: the tighter to the peak the more you feel it and it's almost exact!

After some months it will slowly fade away as then your progressed Venus will start its separating course.

[QUOTE]It's been almost a year and I still can't stop thinking about it.


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posted April 06, 2016 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So should I give in? Or just let it fade? Also what about the other sexual aspects we have in synastry? Won't those still be felt? I really don't know if it will fade because I've been feeling sexually attracted to him ever since we first started interacting. Which was two years ago I think some of these sexual aspects are the reason for this. I've always felt sexually attracted to him but it's never been this strong before. We have a lot of those aspects in synastry. Honestly I don't want the feeling to fade lol.

Prog to prog is a verrry slow mover. So even 2 years ago it must have been applying by 1 deg or so.
And your case so accurately describes the growing-stronger vibe (up to the peak).

Those natal aspects have its influence but probably not enough to let the feeling be THAT strong, as it is in your case currently.
Example: Liz Taylor and Burton had this aspect in one of their together-periods. When it started to separate they had one of their divorces. That just naturally happens.

Giving in or let it fade? Hm.. it think it's impossible given your current state to let it fade right now ihi.
If you want another sexual encounter with him, then NOW (or well, within some months) is the time ;D That shouldn't be a problem me thinks, or... ?

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posted April 06, 2016 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you say within some months how long do you mean? I'm planning to see him in June hopefully. Also you mentioned Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton had this aspect during their together moments? Are you saying that sometimes these aspects are on and off? Didn't they break up and get back together multiple times?
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Prog to prog is a verrry slow mover. So even 2 years ago it must have been applying by 1 deg or so.
And your case so accurately describes the growing-stronger vibe (up to the peak).

Those natal aspects have its influence but probably not enough to let the feeling be THAT strong, as it is in your case currently.
Example: Liz Taylor and Burton had this aspect in one of their together-periods. When it started to separate they had one of their divorces. That just naturally happens.

Giving in or let it fade? Hm.. it think it's impossible given your current state to let it fade right now ihi.
If you want another sexual encounter with him, then NOW (or well, within some months) is the time ;D That shouldn't be a problem me thinks, or... ?


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posted April 06, 2016 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mir,

May I ask what does natal Moon conjunct another's progressed Ascendant mean? I have a similar problem here, can't get someone out of my head.. How does this progression affect both Moon and Asc person? Who feels what? Is it one-sided? I know that it's significant but why? Thank you

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posted April 06, 2016 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So when the progressions fade does that mean we will no longer be in contact with each other? Does it mean that there will no longer be a sexual attraction between us? Or how does that work? I wish this wasn't a progression because I enjoy this feeling and I don't want it to end. Is it possible that the same progressions can take place more than once? How long will this progression last? I'd like to know but I hope it does take place again. I've never felt this sexually attracted to anyone before. I wish we had this aspect in synastry. Even though we do have Venus square Mars and Venus/Pluto aspects.

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posted April 07, 2016 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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When you say within some months how long do you mean? I'm planning to see him in June hopefully. Also you mentioned Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton had this aspect during their together moments? Are you saying that sometimes these aspects are on and off? Didn't they break up and get back together multiple times?

I need his birthdate for the exact peak date, this might be in June. You can give it and I can look.
Taylor and Burton had more structured periods of togetherness, like for some years I meant after which they broke up (again). Look here; http://www.positiveastrology.com/articles/article-003.asp

When the progressions fade the contact will fade unless there are other strong progressions wich take it over. That's the progressed theory (which isn't ofcourse always the case / nothing set in stone). And without contact no sexual attraction, ofcourse ;D

This specific V/M progression will be once in a lifetime between both.

I have the V/M opp. in synastry with a guy with whom I shared the verrrrrry most erotic experience(s) of my life. But the contact faded and with that the big lust. But I first had to caught him in a big lie, yea endings are a ****** mess usually ;D


@ Cap, the only thing I can share is that I see Asc/Moon conj as a clear indicator for a relationship start. Are you the Moon?

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posted April 07, 2016 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So really having long term aspects in Synastry (like saturn contacts etc) don't really mean anything? The way you explain it seems as if the progressions end the relationship between two people regardless of other aspects. For example I read that Venus/Pluto aspects are usually strong in synasty/composite. I would think that those aspects would still be relevant regardless of the progressions. But I assume that also fades with the progression? It all seems a little confusing. You stated that if I wanted another sexual encounter with him the time to have one would be now or within months. So happens if I don't? Does that mean he will no longer be sexually attracted to me? I mean men usually don't mind having sexual encounters no matter what time it. I mean I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem being intimate with me whenever I want it. Or at least most men wouldn't have a problem with this. Are you saying I shouldn't see him in June because the progression will start to fade before then? I don't think men usually turn down sexual encounters with women lol. I just hope I get to have him in June please I hope this progression is still active then.

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I need his birthdate for the exact peak date, this might be in June. You can give it and I can look.
Taylor and Burton had more structured periods of togetherness, like for some years I meant after which they broke up (again). Look here; http://www.positiveastrology.com/articles/article-003.asp

When the progressions fade the contact will fade unless there are other strong progressions wich take it over. That's the progressed theory (which isn't ofcourse always the case / nothing set in stone). And without contact no sexual attraction, ofcourse ;D

This specific V/M progression will be once in a lifetime between both.

I have the V/M opp. in synastry with a guy with whom I shared the verrrrrry most erotic experience(s) of my life. But the contact faded and with that the big lust. But I first had to caught him in a big lie, yea endings are a ****** mess usually ;D


@ Cap, the only thing I can share is that I see Asc/Moon conj as a clear indicator for a relationship start. Are you the Moon?



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posted April 07, 2016 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Mir, since you know a lot about progressions, do you mind me asking your opinion about pr. Vertex conj. pr. Saturn (and IC)? Now the pr. IC-vertex conjunction is not exact, as the IC has moved into 26 degrees Virgo, while Saturn of course is still in 24 Virgo and still conj. the pr. Vertex in 24 Virgo for 2 years now! Thanks in advance!


@ChildofVenus, sorry for the intrusion and for what you are going through. I know it's hard. But yesterday I found out that Charlie Chaplin has said "All things in life are temporary..Even our problems.", I found it a simple but brilliant way to comfort ourselves in difficult moments, so I wish you good luck!

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posted April 07, 2016 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you and yes I have heard of that quote before. I don't really see this has a difficult moment. It's not something that can't be fixed. I knew I wasn't in love with him but that the sexual attraction is just so strong. Yes we do have a lot of sexual aspects in synastry which is why I thought that was causing this. Now I see it's just this temporary thing. I don't want it to be temporary because I love the feeling enough though it's torture. I thought it was the Venus/Pluto aspect causing all this. I don't want this feeling to end at all.
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@Mir, since you know a lot about progressions, do you mind me asking your opinion about pr. Vertex conj. pr. Saturn (and IC)? Now the pr. IC-vertex conjunction is not exact, as the IC has moved into 26 degrees Virgo, while Saturn of course is still in 24 Virgo and still conj. the pr. Vertex in 24 Virgo for 2 years now! Thanks in advance!


@ChildofVenus, sorry for the intrusion and for what you are going through. I know it's hard. But yesterday I found out that Charlie Chaplin has said "All things in life are temporary..Even our problems.", I found it a simple but brilliant way to comfort ourselves in difficult moments, so I wish you good luck!


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posted April 07, 2016 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@ Cap, the only thing I can share is that I see Asc/Moon conj as a clear indicator for a relationship start. Are you the Moon?


No, his natal Moon. I am progressed Asc. The are conjunct, 0 degrees 40 minutes applying. When does it become active and how long does it last? I am in general quite confused about natal to progressed in terms of who feels what and why. Progressed is like temporary me right? Does it mean that I get to feel whatever comes into contact with my progressed points temporarily? Then wouldn't it be the same for the natal person..or do they not feel anything on their part? There is also a Sun Moon conjunction but it's very wide at the moment, 4degrees30minutes applying, my progressed Moon and his natal Sun.

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posted April 07, 2016 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does within months mean? June isn't that far from now.

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posted April 07, 2016 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There is also a Sun Moon conjunction but it's very wide at the moment, 4degrees30minutes applying, my progressed Moon and his natal Sun.

Wow. THAT is even a more reliable factor for a start. You see this pMoon/nSun conj so often at the start between a couple. Progressed Moon is a fast mover so no need for it to be exact.
Progressed Asc moves approx 1 deg a year.

My main area of focus: Sun/Moon - Venus/Mars - Asc. More as a timing tool than anything else. So unfortunately I can't answer most questions here. But I'm Always open to hear your experiences during the above mentioned progressed planet aspects (to natal).
I also hope to get more insight into progressed-synastry versus natal-synastry one day. Hence my current phase obsession.

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