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abrightfutureahead
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posted April 07, 2016 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried with my ex fiancé to have a baby, and ended up having 4 miscarriages.
This is really important to me. My new boyfriend and I want to have a child together and I'm so anxious about it all. I hope I don't have to go through any losses again.

at the moment I have transiting Jupiter, and Venus in my 5th house. Also my moon and Ceres are in transit. I hope this brings me some luck!

My lunar fertility chart is amazing accurate with my womanly cycle. Can you see if I will have a child?

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posted April 07, 2016 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus and Chiron (in the 2nd house which I personally think relates to conception), and Mars t-square the Moon, indicating the sudden painful upsets where pregnancy is concerned. This has already played out for you but there's a good chance it might work out with a different partner who aspects your chart differently, as people are 'permanent transits' and I believe they can have a direct effect on our physiology. Also plenty of people miscarry only to bring a child to full term later. I know Chinese medicine and acupuncture can be wonderfully helpful in this area. If you can find a good woman Chinese doctor she might be able to help you feel more confident.

Also I wonder if you felt completely safe with your ex, whether he triggered your t-square or aggravated it somehow... We're looking for flow and release, a planet opposite your moon might help, or just lots of soft aspects. Your own insecurities probably affected your miscarriages. You need someone who helps you feel safe.

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posted April 07, 2016 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This is our synastry chart

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posted April 07, 2016 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This is our synastry chart

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posted April 07, 2016 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You do have nice aspects from Venus/Mercury to your Moon, it's clear from your chart that this issue is hugely important to you. You need to get some perspective on the factors contributing to your emotional volatility. Mercury is dispositor of your Moon and is in quincunx to Uranus. So that's very important, to try to understand what's going on with that Uranus. Was there some very unpredictable element in your early home life? Somebody who really threw you for a loop? You need to understand your own triggers and make sure you're channeling the considerable energy such that you can let it flow through you instead of blind siding you and knocking you down. That's the trick with Uranus sometimes anyway.

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posted April 08, 2016 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes my childhood was very unpredictable. My mother suffered from schizophrenia and would say things I didn't understand. I was taken out of her care and moved around the family before going into care when I was 12. It has caused me to have a "trigger" regarding abandonment issues. It's hard to trust someone fully and believe that they will not aventually leave me. If you can't trust your family, who can you trust right?

My mother was later murdered and found out she had been living homeless on the streets. My brother later died in a car crash. This has all affected me in close relationships.

I guess my deepest fear is that I will not be a good mother, or that I could lose my mind/have my children taken off me like my poor deceased mum did.
I know this is something I shouldn't fear, but my mum lacked support, as I probably will due to lack of relatives.

Thank you for your insight, I hope Uranus will have taught me what it is I need and I have a successful pregnancy

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posted April 08, 2016 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm so sorry to hear of all the pain you've experienced. It does show in your chart. It is likely that these insecurities physically manifested as miscarriages and it will be important to somehow gain a sense of peace and safety. I know you can do it but in order to unlock those positive aspects to your moon you need to delve into your own 12th house and empower yourself through the spirit of unconditional love and support... to become grounded and rooted in an innate knowing that the power of the universe itself has your back and is lovingly holding and caring for the spirits of your brother and mother also...

Love to you. Praying for your well being.

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posted April 08, 2016 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your kind words. Actually never thought about it before but your right, I didn't feel emotionally secure and safe with my ex fiancé.

Can you see from my synastry and composite with my boyfriend if he may be able to offer me this support to feel at ease this time around?
I'm in a lot better place now 2 years later. ill take you advice on board. Hopefully you can have some insight on my relationship.

Here's our synastry

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posted April 08, 2016 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your ascendant rulers are in supportive aspect as well as your descendant ruler and his ascendant ruler which is great as they're both benefics... I like the supportive sextile from his Saturn to your Moon and the grand trine formed between your charts between Moon/Moon/Venus/Venus Mercury/Asc/Jupiter. Some very benevolent aspects there and probably a good flow of love and support. We're definitely not looking for any more challenges to your Moon from an intimate relationship in my opinion. His Mars squares it widely enough to lend energy to your emotional processing without being overbearing although I'd watch out for his Mars which is his desc ruler opposing your Mars... could be some contention and fighting over domesticity and sentimentality vs. ambition and practically but overall I like oppositions from Cancer to Cap and since it is his desc ruler in Capricorn and conjunct your Saturn I think he probably feels right at home with you. I think this is a good balance...

I also think I like his Neptune on your Uranus, bringing that element of softness, reprieve, unconditional love and soothing to a Uranus which definitely needs that. There's probably an ability to go almost comatose together emotionally, where he softens the sharp edges in your mind and helps you relax deeply. Is that so?

Mercury on the IC is a really good indicator for this relationship and for you; you need someone who will be willing and able to talk with you about your mother and the deep experiences of your childhood. Your IC ruler the Sun is in his 7th but nearly in his 8th house... he's going to be feeling all of this very intensely, he will be transformed by it emotionally, it might give some grounding to his Leo Sun, which might still at times have trouble with it not being all about him... will be wanting fire and passion when you're content to take it slow and easy... and it might be hard at some times to identify with one another his Sun in your 4th will take care of a lot of that. He will really be illuminating your deeper needs and that which propels you on your life path.

His Saturn squares your nodes... i have this aspect with my daughter's father so it definitely doesn't preclude fertility but we aren't together anymore and he didn't really provide any stability for me... quite the opposite. However the possible manifestations of this aspect are many and somehow or other he is a huge turning point in your life, will give your nodes a Saturn to chew on. Will help you mature along your path one way or another. You'll realize what you need and want in terms of stability and structure here. Whether he's the one to provide it or not something about the relationship will alert you to your deep needs for integration of your nod a l path..

Hopefully the kindness and support make them kind helpful lessons. You can research this aspect yourself if you like; it seems to denote fated relationships of great intensity and sometimes lots of heartache... depending on the manifestation and integration of the Saturn person's Saturn. How mature and self aware can he be about it? With a Leo Sun he is going to WANT to do the right thing, be the right thing, and it's nearly square the Saturn and close to your South Node so this is all very important for him to learn this responsibility.... a Libra ascendant itching on towards Scorpio is probably still careful to be considerate at all times. You are hopefully going to teach him about the importance of being accountable, being responsible, how much he affects another being on their path; he will feel responsibility for your emotional well being with that sextile to your moon. Your NN in his 4th, your healing and understanding of cosmic forces will be felt by him on a deep level. His nodal path corresponds to your 12th house which means when he's activating that he'll be helping you with seeing your 12th house. It's good because your NN is in Pisces and you need to reveal the depths of your own psyche to yourself.

The composite Saturn and Uranus square the nodes. So there's a Uranus/Saturn lesson here. Also Chiron opposing Uranus squares the nodes... not a light relationship, likely very transformative and exactly what you need to help you face the Chiron-Uranus issue in your own chart...

I like that his Moon completes the grand cross between Venus, Jupiter, and Pluto in the composite... it's also great to see composite Venus on your IC, you feel loved and held by this relationship in your innermost depths. You're able to celebrate yourself and love itself here, exactly what you need... it's on his Mercury, his MC... feeling really good I think.

I love the mystic rectangle in your composite.

Sun opposite Neptune is one to watch out for, and forming a t-square with Mars we see the potential for blatant deception which brings with it quite an emotional charge. Along with Chiron-Uranus-Nodes grand cross we have a recipe for profound transformative emotional healing as well as the potential that there is some reason you aren't seeing each other totally clearly and a need to be very very honest with one another. The love and care need to overcome the urge to use one another for anything. The Sun-Neptune opposition can denote an unusual devotion which borders on martyrdom, losing yourself for the sake of the other. It can be a beautiful aspect of unconditional love and support or it can be a disastrous illusion which ends up very disappointing.

It seems clear to me that however it all plays out it will help you on your path and is the right thing for you to be engaging in at this time... can't predict how it will go in the future. Would need to see progressions and transits and draco and midpoint charts... blah blah to say with any certainty... even then would be hard to say for sure, you know? This is just an overview and I hope it's helpful.

Would you kindly post the Davison relationship chart?

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posted April 08, 2016 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, thank you for such an in depth interpretation. I will have to re-read this over many times to grasp everything. It's a strange thing, being friends for 5 years and now both deciding to try for a baby. I worry so much if I am doing the right thing...

At the moment I have the moon, Jupiter and North node transitting my 5th house. My solar return chart has a stellium in the 7th house. I think your amazing grotto.

You have given me a lot to think about, here is my Davidson chart(no idea how to read these!)

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posted April 08, 2016 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Davison looks good to me i like that the Sun-Neptune turns to a conjunction.

In fact if you've been friends 5 years and have now decided to try for a baby together... that sounds ideal to me from a non astrological perspective. Also the charts support that... a really friendly loving friendship which also had components of depth and intensity but not control, necessarily... Here in the Davison NN in the 2nd, Moon in the 5th, all the trines to the IC, and the focus in the east/south... lots of things indicate that this could work to me.

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posted April 08, 2016 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow that's great to hear. After a devastating time with my ex fiancé, I hope that things will go smoothly with this relationship and going on to have a successful pregnancy.!

Here is our progressed composite, you really know your stuff. It's taken me 3 years to understand natal charts and synastry. Thank you so much!!

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posted April 08, 2016 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read somewhere progressed composite sun in Leo -5th house is a indicator of conception/pregnancy. What do you think?

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posted April 08, 2016 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm still learning about progressed composites myself. There are things you could teach me!

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posted April 25, 2016 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I found out I am pregnant with this man this morning!! Wow I'm fertile lol! And very scared after all my losses...


Pleaaaase give me some astrological insight or some ideas on things I can research myself!?! I told my Leo sun Aqua moon today and he says he's really happy. I asked to see him tonight and he said tomorrow, wow that really hurt. I hope that's his way of processing things!

Thank you for all your wonderful advice and knowledge people!! X

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posted April 25, 2016 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need to examine your natal 1-4-5 houses. With prognostics as well, check the date - 7-9 months ahead of the known pregnancy date.

1st - mother
4th - pregnancy
5th - birth

You will usually have all 3 switched on if childbirth does happen. With miscarriages a link to 5th house could be missing (too soon - miscarriage), or 1st house (the body is not ready - miscarriage)

I haven't looked at your natal chart yet, the picture quality is horrible but 1st step is Always to assess the houses I mentioned. Your chart will show you whether you have difficulties with pregnancies/childbirth/wanting to have kids etc. If you do, it's very important to give birth at good aspects. Women with bad aspects (in prognostics) also give birth, it's just not as easy as with those who do it at, for example trine aspects. So if there are no issues with 1-4-5 house links in natal chart, you can bring the baby in this world whenever you want really. But if there are, it's really important to plan. You see?

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posted April 25, 2016 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
abrightfutureahead,

for prognostics you really need an accurate time of birth. Well, for natal chart too! It says 5 o'clock on your chart..

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posted April 25, 2016 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2H (physical body) - 8H + 12H (surgical operations) - 5H (childbirth)...t-square..there's that. In cardinal signs!

What's interesting is that your Sun, Mercury and Venus all trine your Moon. This is important because:

Sun - 5H significator and ruler of 4H
Mercury - ruler of your 1H and 5H
Venus - a co-ruler of 5H
Moon - significator of 4H and 5H element

These are all very good 1-4-5 links. So it looks like you can have kids BUT T-square in 2-8-5......is there an underlying medical condition here that really affected your life? If there is, theoretically when resolved, it should all be good for pregancy/birth!

I really hope this time it will go well for you! X

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posted April 27, 2016 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my transits and progressions on my expected due date. I really appreciate your knowledge and honest opinions! Thank you for anyone who will take the time to look at my chart x

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posted April 27, 2016 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So from what I can gather my 2nd house is activated with a lot of activity to my 8H and 12H - c section ???

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posted April 28, 2016 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

Caprious Capricorn ? 😁

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posted April 28, 2016 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How accurate is your birth time?

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posted April 29, 2016 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My birth time is accurate 6am daylight savings = 5am.


Thank you for your calculations. I appreciate your honest prediction x

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posted May 01, 2016 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
abrightfutureahead,

Sorry, I have been a little busy so replying just now. I looked at your solar return chart first. Step by step.

It's a very interesting chart. Looks very good for commitment, marriage. Solid there. But not good for preganancy/birth. I wouldn't concentrate on solar chart alone to make conclusions but would take it into account as well. Out of all prognostic methods I think it's probably the least reliable but sometimes can be very telling.

In pregnancy/birth year very often you can find a planet in the 5H of solar return chart. You have Chiron there. Not the best planet to have, especially when it's in opposition to Moon and Moon is 4H significator (pregnancy). Moon also receives an opposition from Neptune in 4H (5H ruler and 4H co-ruler, 2H ruler as a secondary ruler too). Jupiter is significant here too because it is similar to Neptune in a way that it also rules 2H and is a secondary ruler of 5H and 4H co-ruler). Neptune square Mars and Saturn in 2H. Mars is a co-ruler of 5H, ruler of 6H. And it's retrograde! And lastly, Uranus (4H ruler, 6H element) squares Pluto (1H ruler).

To sum it up, you get a lot of problems with these houses: 1,2,4,5,6

4-5 - pregnancy/birth - carrying baby, delivery
2-5 - body/birth - difficulties with birth/delivery
4-6 - health problems during pregnancy
5-6 - health problems during childbirth
4-1 - you (psychological and/or physical - body, mind) and pregnancy
6-1 - health problems

Positives - very strong Pluto. It's a chart ruler, very important. Whatever happens this year, you will feel in control and powerful. 8th house is in as good state as it can be because Mercury as 8H ruler is also strong. So out of all the problems above which are pretty much repeating the issues in your natal chart, the 1H-8H link shows that operation even if it does happen, it's a good one with no problems. 1H-7H - perfect. Marriage/relationship/commitment - happy times here, emotional satisfaction in this department.

I will have a look at the rest (progressions, directions, transits) later. But keep in mind, this is just astrology, our hobby. Do not take anything written here too seriously.

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posted May 01, 2016 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the solar return chart I used.

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