posted April 10, 2016 04:53 PM            

I have Pluto/Venus (conjunct & trine) and Moon/Saturn (conjunct and trine) contacts with someone I know. Does anyone have any experience with this and could tell me what it means?

posted April 14, 2016 05:53 AM            

Yes, there was a familiarity and a comfortable feelings when we first met. But in a long run? I feel trapped and scared. I want to break it off because I realize it's not healthy, but the bond is hard to break, especially if the other one refuses to break the chain. It needs both mature people in the relationship.

I do feel it's like a karmic relationship because I feel like repeating the old bad relationship I had before and his also. To make it worst, he has lots of hidden issues and trying to control me only to satisfy his worrisome.

We also have venus square saturn, so, yes, it intensify the feeling of unloved, betrayed, left alone, angry, etc. Saturn contact makes it cold especially if there's already an issue in the first before both totally committed. I don't know why I hold on to it for so long. I feel like this is an unrequited love on my side.

posted April 15, 2016 01:01 PM            

I mean there's definitely a little protectiveness, I do feel safe, like I can trust them definjtely. But due to other circumstances, a true romantic relationship can never be, so I, like you, am sort of caught in this push and pull that ebs and flows. And I resolved to never tell them because it couldn't work.

What we have though is a little different: (me on left)

Moon conjunct Saturn 3
Pluto conjunct Venus 3
Saturn trine moon 0
Venus trine Pluto 2

Then Saturn square Venus 5

posted April 15, 2016 03:27 PM            

Though both are considered Karmic aspects, I'd say we need to pay attention to how many and what kind as well.

For instance, if there aren't multiple (or strong) Saturn aspects - then there still may be past life karma for sure, but you may have been like 'two ships in the night' who passed each other by. (src: Linda's book).

The ones that, IMO, give the most haunting, déjà vu feeling of all are multiple Pluto aspects, with some Neptune in the mix. In one case, I could actually *feel* some misty recollections, like a pastel impressionist montage that's been blurred out of focus.

In Pluto karma - the Pluto person will the bringer of the 'lesson', and the planet person is the one to learn and grow from it. Pluto will learn and grow too, but they're the ones who initiate, blow up and (sometimes) eventually end the process. That's probably why you'll hear descriptions in Pluto aspects which say "the Pluto person has the power". They've probably earned it in a past life, where you broke their heart and left them in an ocean of misery. So now, you owe them. (** JK. )
Come, repay your Karmic debts.

posted April 15, 2016 04:40 PM            

I mean I definitely feel we've known each other through many lives, but there's no south node connection explicitly if that matters. (Edit: actually, our nodes square each other exactly) I have no position of power over this person in this life I don't think, maybe emotionally, but that's about it. But I'm the Pluto person I gather, since my Pluto conjunct their Venus and Neptune, opposing their Saturn.
Although their Pluto trines my sun, Venus, Mars, Neptune, and barely Uranus.

I don't know how strong trines are considered to be though, but my Saturn also trines almost all their personal planets (except Mars).

Overall, Saturn and Pluto are both super prevalent in our personal charts, so it just feels heavy, but it feels right. It feels comfortable, like I came home when I met them, and although I know I'm not able to be with them in this lifetime there's still an understanding that I will see them in the next one or be with them eventually which is really weird for me because I know I'd usually be more upset. I guess I'm just trying to figure out the nature of our relationship. It's like a little more than love but a little less than infatuation? I'm not sure how to explain it. But our Plutos and Saturns are so active between us I think that's indicative of that feeling I have.

posted April 15, 2016 10:18 PM            

And what prompted me to investigate further is the fact that ever since I met them I've been kind of... Spiritually awakened, I guess? Like I was supposed to meet this person. Our contacts according to some indicate twin flame which is really a lot for me to process if (the theory of TF is real) true but it also feels right.