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Sunnya
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posted May 10, 2016 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If we pick our Lunar Return for the month compare it with someone's else natal chart, progressed chart, plus make a composite/davison, we will see how potentially that person will affect us during that month, especially emotionally, right?

What are your thoughts? Have you verified if this actually works?

Let's discuss .

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posted May 10, 2016 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha Been thinking about that i should revise lunar return again. I had a thread this year about them but cannot remember what i wrote

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posted May 10, 2016 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! My favorite topic!!!! I have evidence and done tons of experiments with what your doing and it all makes sense!!!!!!! Lots of astrologers disagree with this method but I know what I've come across with this.

Welcome to Predictive Astrology

But you must know the basics first in order to touch this subject because you have to use a lot of your intuition and knowledge on basic Astrology.

And I also use transits when predicting.
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posted May 10, 2016 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brilliant, I love it!!

Thank Ceri for bumping your thread.

I was already very curious about this topic and I am now digging more about it hehehe.

I am checking some charts and comparing to check for evidence.
And yes angel, I am checking if my basics are enough for this already... I love the topic but it's sensitive. I would love to learn more about it and if you can teach me more about it, it's perfect.

If you guys want to share your findings, please do!

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posted May 10, 2016 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find that subject awesomely exciting. I only started checking a few weeks ago, but it`s super interesting. I would like to know how you go on about checking lunar returns, Angel?

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posted May 10, 2016 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW just because I am going to see him on sunday (Probably), I was making a Davison chart of my lunar return and his natal chart, and it looks like this. lol


And I was like You GOT to be kidding me, universe!!!
How on earth is he going to affect me or bring into my life this month`? LOL

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posted May 10, 2016 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well his lunar return Davison with my natal is not as outstanding, but possibly expectedly so.


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posted May 11, 2016 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
composite of my lunar return and his natal


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composite of his lunar return and my natal
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posted May 11, 2016 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW my "basic" lunar return this month has:


° LR ASC on 9 Libra exactly conjunct n Pluto in 10th house (nMC on 5 Libra)

° LR chartruler Venus is on 0°47 Taurus in 7th house of LR Return and conjunct my natal 5th house cusp on 1°31 Taurus

° LR Venus is also exactly opposite n Uranus on 1°21 Scorpio


° LR DESC-ruler Mars is on 7°49 Sagittarius in LR 3rd house and conjunct my natal ASC on 7°01 Sagittarius and also conjunct my natal Mars on 5°10 Sag (yes Tr Mars decided to start his retro and direct motion hovering right above my own Mars, possibly giving the Mars-returns happening now in my life more emphasis); LR Mars might also be considere conjunct n Neptune on 9°56 Sag and n NN on 10°09 Sag

° the LR 1st house contains BML on 27 Libra being opposite Venus in Lr 7th house with an orb of 3 degrees

° the LR 7th house contains Uranus on 21°37 Aries conjunct LR Vertex on 21°47 Aries, falling on my natal Chiron on 20°02 Aries in 4th house and also activating my n Vertex and n Sun/Moon-mp on 21°32 Cancer and Capricorn

° Uranus rules the 5th house in the Lunar Return chart (and is always important I suppose as it disposits my Aqua-Moon, and this is a lunar chart)


° Moon is placed at the end of the 4th LR house but conjunct the 5th house cusp with 26 minutes of orb (I think I noticed this will happen again sometimes in my lunar returns, Moon being placed in 5th house)


° within the 5th LR house there is EROS on 22 Aquarius conjunct my Psyche on 24 Aquarius

° there is also Neptune on 11 Pisces in LR 5th house conjunct my n Jupiter on 11 Pisces in n 3rd house


° LR Sun is on 10 Taurus in 8th house (natal 5th), and ruling the 11th house, being trine LR Jupiter in LR 11th house (natal 9th), and this Jupiter rules the LR 3rd house


The closest aspectis:
Uranus conjunct Vertex in 7th /4th house (0°05)


The closest(direct) midpoint pictures are:

Venus conjunct Sun/Uranus 0°23
Venus conjunct Sun/Vx 0°26
Moon opposite Node/MC 0°47
Jupiter opposite Sun/Pluto 0°43
Jupiter conjunct Moon /DESC 0°09
Neptune conjunct Sun /IC 0°05
Pluto opposite Mercury/Jupiter 0°58
Node opposite Mercury/Pluto 0°03
MC conjunct Sun/Jupiter 0°06
MC opposite Moon /Mars 0°18


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I feel it has a strong Uranian vibe with Uranus conjunct Vertex, LR Venus opposite n Uranus exact and LR Venus conjunct Sun/Uranus - and apparently that Uranian vibe might come from another person? Encounters I have? Because of Venus AND Uranus in 7th house?


What do you think or see?

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posted May 12, 2016 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, I agree with you about a strong Uranian flavor in you LR.

Uranus also rules 5th house and it rules your Moon and being this a LR, I think it's important.

Any excitement happening related to romance? Any changes, new events with a current love interest or new love interests?

I personally love Uranus. I love the fizz and shakes it does, but hey I have Uranus in the 1st so yea lol.

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posted May 12, 2016 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would you say it's more relevant considering how another person affects our month: composite first, then davison and lastly simple synastry between LR and natal (or progressed)? Or there is no order of relevance?

Would a composite only show the inner emotions and the davison the actual manifestation of them? (synastry a bit of both?? )

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posted May 12, 2016 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 12, 2016 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sunnya:
What would you say it's more relevant considering how another person affects our month: composite first, then davison and lastly simple synastry between LR and natal (or progressed)? Or there is no order of relevance?

Would a composite only show the inner emotions and the davison the actual manifestation of them? (synastry a bit of both?? )


I use mainly name asteroids why? Because we want to see where our name(us) will take place in the emotional state of the individual that month and see what aspects it makes and the ruler of that name asteroid taking the sign is relevant and seeing where that name asteroid is transiting in the partners natal and composite. I have more stuff to add.

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posted May 14, 2016 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Angel I love your approach. I also agree that name asteroids are very important and even more important than what we may think.

I have been always including my name asteroid when I cast a chart for me and him and I must tell you, it has been very revealing, especially in our progressed synastry for example.

Thank you! I am looking forward to see what else you are going to add.

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posted May 14, 2016 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny enough my Name is currently in cancer opp.my venus.but of course it mean moon it's elf is the ruler

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posted May 17, 2016 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sunnya:
@Angel I love your approach. I also agree that name asteroids are very important and even more important than what we may think.

I have been always including my name asteroid when I cast a chart for me and him and I must tell you, it has been very revealing, especially in our progressed synastry for example.

Thank you! I am looking forward to see what else you are going to add.


Yes they are very important "more" yes yes yes true I have seen events manifest within the individual surrounding there name asteroid in the lunar/solar/venus return and seeing what planet in the individuals natal chart is aspecting the name asteroid in the return chart that can tell you how the individual will be affected what role they will play towards there selves during that moment in time the return is casted.

Progressed synastry involving the name asteroid is SO IMPORTANT TOO! When a name asteroid is conjunct or any type of aspect minor or hard that can tell you a lot of information of the type of dynamic is being involved between both of the people. Let me know if your confused does it resonate?

And yes always always always include name asteroids in everything!!! Im so happy you understand!
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posted May 17, 2016 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Funny enough my Name is currently in cancer opp.my venus.but of course it mean moon it's elf is the ruler

I know it can get freaky..

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posted May 17, 2016 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It`s so funny I am just reading this thread again and wanting to bump it and you answered that moment.

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posted May 17, 2016 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am confused a little. So checking my own natla planets against my lunar return name or doing it synastrically?

his natal to his name in my lnar chart?

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posted May 17, 2016 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
It`s so funny I am just reading this thread again and wanting to bump it and you answered that moment.

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posted May 17, 2016 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am confused a little. So checking my own natla planets against my lunar return name or doing it synastrically?

his natal to his name in my lnar chart?


Where is his name in your lunar return? What sign? What aspects?

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posted May 17, 2016 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His name in my lunar return:

18 Virgo in 12th house
conjunct NN on 20 Virgo in 12th
trine Pluto on 17 Cap in 4th


My name in his lunar return:

4 Cancer in 7th house
sextile Sun on 7 Taurus in 5th
square Lust in 4 Aries in 4th house
conjunct Venus/Jupiter-mp 0°22


What I found more interesting is this

composite my lr - his natal
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his name 14 Virgo 9th house

Venus 13 PIsces 3rd house
Jupiter 11 Virgo 9th house
NN 10°59 Virgo 9th house

conjunct his pMars on 14 Virgo (and natal Mars on 11 Virgo)


his lr - my natal
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my name 10 Gemini 7th house (DESC on 5 Gem.)

Mars 6 Sag on ASC
Jupiter 12 Sag in 1st

Mercury 9 Pisces in 3rd


my natal SN on 10 Gemini, my natal DESC on 7 Gemini, our composite Jupiter on 10 Gemini, our first meeting DESC on 9 Gemini


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posted May 17, 2016 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@angel4845 It totally resonates . I am glad to know I was actually thinking correctly because that was my line of thought too, especially when the said name asteroid actually aspects our own Natal and/or progressed. It basically confirms it is indeed us. I don't think this is imperative, but it's definitely nice when it aspects our own planets, points, asteroids and so on.

I also checked his next month LR composite with my natal. And my name asteroid in this composite is in the 9th conjunct Vesta, sextiles Venus exact and Juno (1º), squares ASC, Eros, Union, Valentine and opposes Uranus (1º)

And it's funny because next month he is going overseas for work for a little time (9th). But I am not sure what to make of my name being placed in the composite 9th, I have no plans to go there one day or two yet lol. Or is he going to be thinking of me while he is there?

Hmm.

By the way, his next month LR return Composite with my Natal ASC/DSC axis conjuncts my own ASC/DSC axis...

I really love this topic guys .

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posted May 17, 2016 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sunnya:
@angel4845 It totally resonates . I am glad to know I was actually thinking correctly because that was my line of thought too, especially when the said name asteroid actually aspects our own Natal and/or progressed. It basically confirms it is indeed us. I don't think this is imperative, but it's definitely nice when it aspects our own planets, points, asteroids and so on.

I also checked his next month LR composite with my natal. And my name asteroid in this composite is in the 9th conjunct Vesta, sextiles Venus exact and Juno (1º), squares ASC, Eros, Union, Valentine and opposes Uranus (1º)

And it's funny because next month he is going overseas for work for a little time (9th). But I am not sure what to make of my name being placed in the composite 9th, I have no plans to go there one day or two yet lol. Or is he going to be thinking of me while he is there?

Hmm.

By the way, his next month LR return Composite with my Natal ASC/DSC axis conjuncts my own ASC/DSC axis...

I really love this topic guys .


Sounds great! Possibly he will think of you while he is there are you two dating? Composite ? You combine his LR and your natal?

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posted May 19, 2016 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@angel Yes, the Composite of our Natal and LR seems to represent how we will affect the LR person in the respective month. I believe I learned this from Ceri actually .

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