posted May 21, 2016 08:26 AM            

"When delineating a Venus return, you should look at the following items first:
The angles (Ascendant, MC, Descendant and the IC).

These are very important and must be delineated first.

Especially look at the degree areas.

The Venus return becomes more powerful in case you find 0°, 14°-15° or 29° on an angle.

Are there any planets or bodies conjunct an angle?

These planets are extremely important and set the tone for the Venus return period.

Is Venus conjunct an angle?

If so, is Venus afflicted (squared by Saturn for example)?

If Venus is unafflicted, it may become a very good and enjoyable period.

In case Venus is afflicted, chances are you may face a separation or other upsets.

The house position of Venus.

If Venus is in the 11th house of friendships and group activities, expect friendship to be a focal point during the Venus return.

If Venus is in the 7th house of partnerships and encounters, chances are you will find a love encounter or have enjoyable contacts with others.

The most exact midpoints (45° dial/list).

These midpoints will point to events, experiences or feelings during the Venus return.
You can follow transiting Venus as it travels through the return chart and find out what happens when it builds exact aspects to the other planets and bodies in the return chart.

Also, the angles are important and whenever transiting Venus conjuncts an angle, expect something to happen around that day.

Usually, Venus-Saturn contacts are sobering, creating a distance while Venus-Jupiter contacts are expanding; resulting in numerous contacts and/or group activities.

However, Venus-Jupiter contacts may also suggest legal issues depending on other aspects or midpoints.

Venus-Mars contacts are related to (welcome or unwelcome) attraction(s), following one's impulses and/or spontaneous encounters.

Venus-Uranus contacts too point to sudden, spontaneous, contacts but any encounter, how enjoyable it can be, is short-lived.

Uranus is too independent and has no staying power.

Venus-Neptune is above all artistic and creative.

This is a very good contact for artistic projects but less so for romantic projects.

Venus-Pluto contacts are often referred to as the spider-web contacts and they may also refer to powerful attachments and (co-)dependent behavior.

Sometimes, they predict the death of a loved one too."

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The Venus return becomes more powerful in case you find 0°, 14°-15° or 29° on an angle.

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Are there any planets or bodies conjunct an angle?

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Venus in the 4th. Someone will fall in my lap? Conjunct Mercury and opposite Moon.

Hard aspects to midpoints under 10 minutes:
Pluto=Mars/Neptune 0.02
Mercury=Sun/Pluto 0.02
Saturn=Neptune/NN 0.02.
Mars square Mercury/Neptune 0.03
Jupiter square Mars/Pluto 0.04
Mars opposite Moon/Neptune 0.07

The tightest aspect:
MC sextile Jupiter/NN 0.01

It could have been worse, right?

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You can follow transiting Venus as it travels through the return chart and find out what happens when it builds exact aspects to the other planets and bodies in the return chart.

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Thanks for sharing.

posted May 21, 2016 10:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

"When delineating a Venus return, you should look at the following items first:
The angles (Ascendant, MC, Descendant and the IC).

These are very important and must be delineated first.

Especially look at the degree areas.

The Venus return becomes more powerful in case you find 0°, 14°-15° or 29° on an angle.

Are there any planets or bodies conjunct an angle?

These planets are extremely important and set the tone for the Venus return period.

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This portion caught my eye. In my natal chart I have Mercury and Jupiter on my Leo Asc. I've only been paying attention to astrology for a year and a half, but I have learned that Venus Rx through Leo is one of the most powerful transits I experience. Venus entered her shadow when she was conjunct my Mercury Jupiter and Asc at 14 degrees. Anyway that is kind of unrelated, but Ill be looking for some connections when I look at my Venus return...if I cam ever figure out how to cast that chart that is. Can you please tell me how Ceridwen?

posted May 21, 2016 10:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
Ceri, I don't see any aspects to your rVenus in the synastry. It was only touched by Antivertex a few minutes earlier. That angle conjunction is cool though.

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posted May 21, 2016 10:34 AM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
And in the time I got my comment up you guys managed to make this 10 times more complicated lol.

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Sorry, just ignore the subsequent charts, I was just playing around.

posted May 21, 2016 10:55 AM            

Why am I saying this?

MC on 15 Gemini conjunct my natal Karma on 16 Gemini - just saying. lol

I do have too many angular planets to even sleep well at night after looking at this.

Chiron EXACTLY on the DESC - not the thing you really want to see in your Venus-Return I suppose!
I will be exposed to painful experiences, or let`s say such intense experiences that they will rip open any kind of bandaids I mayy have wrapped over my sore spots. They will all be dragged out into the open!

Either other people will bring me the pain, or I will be exposed to the pain of other people. Of course in the best case scenario healing will happen too, but for this to happen the wounds will have to be ripped far open and layed bare for all to see. Let`s talk about wearing your most vulnerably weaknesses on your sleeve!

(does not help that my Solar Return has Moon-Chiron-IC conjunction all on my natal Juno).

On the other hand it also means that I can only relate to othe rpeople in the most honest and even primal honest way. No sneaking around the issues. they will simply burst out in the open.

Then Saturn on the IC - does not look too hilarious either. Serious **** . I am not quite sure what it means that Saturn rules the 5th house and disposits Venus. Seems important but not easy.
A year when I have to REALLY get to work, relationally speaking

And then there is the Jupiter-NN-conjunction on the ASC - Jupiter - NN is the tightest aspect with only 2 minutes of arc.
That might be the good thing about that ****** return. Being on the ASC it is very very much on display, there seems to be some important purpose in that Venus-Return, the experiences will shape me in ways I might not even be able to fathom now.
Jupiter rules the IC, so it arises from the bottom of my relationship-life.

Venus itself is in the 4th house, some inner work to do, maybe something to do with my home, family, homecountry or simply soul.

but then there is the very exact conjunction of Mercury and Pluto in 4th house as well, Mercury rules the ASC and MC and conjuncts Pluto, which rules the 3rd house.
Just emphasizes the intensity of communication I guess. over and over again. There will be the destruction and subsequent re-built of thoughtpatterns, communication and what do I know. this Merucry-Pluto is the focal point of the exact (19 minutes) opposition of BML aand Uranus. Ouch. Expect upheaval a lot of upheaval and nasty talk about sudden unpredictable driving me over the edge or others attraction scenarios - triangular usually. What? I di dnot invent my Venus return I just read it.

Sun is in the 5th house, as ruler of 12th house *sighs* I know I do not even have to say it out loud.

as for midpoints (I use an orb of 1 degree though, but eleminate the semisquare and sesisquare)

Sun = Moon/Saturn 0.09
Sun = Moon/MC 0.41 d

Moon = Uranus/DSC d 0.28
Moon = BML / ASC 0.37 d

Mercury = Mars/DSC d 0.41

Mars = Venus/ASC d 0.53
Mars = Venus/NOde d 0.57
Mars= Venus/Jupiter d 0.58
- very important because they are all direct midpoints (those are stronger) and they involve the Venus in a Venus-Return-chart

Saturn = Neptune/ASC d 0.15
Saturn = Mercury/mars d 0.33
Saturn = Mars/Pluto d 0.49

Uranus = Mars/ASC d 0.55
Uranus = Mars/Node d 0.58
Uranus = Mars/Jupiter d 0.56

Pluto = Mars/DESC d 0.08

BML = Mars/Node d 0.36
BML = Mars/jupiter d 0.37

MC=Mars/Pluto d 0.49
MC = Neptune/Node d 0.04
MC = Jupiter/Neptune d 0.03

I wonder what happens when Tr Venus is going to activate the Venus Return Mars. lol

posted May 21, 2016 11:06 AM            

How would one interpret Venus in the 8th, squared by Mars & Saturn (ouch!), opposite Neptune and trine Pluto ?
Also, Venus conjunct NN in this chart.

^^ Destined to have delays/separations in love?

What's your take ?

posted May 21, 2016 12:09 PM            

Here is D.'s VR chart:

Don't ask me why those asteroids are my default... i wasn't clear headed! Sorry for the mess...

it's worth noting that the Moon in this chart is conjunct his natal Uranus-Jupiter conjunction.

And mine:

Uranus and Pluto are definitely thematically relevant for me this year. Saturn on the 2nd house cusp is extremely telling... this relationship/my present circumstances are very much forcing me in a real world kind of hands on way to grapple with my insecurities, self doubt, and issues of self worth. I am learning to be accountable to myself on that front. Interesting to see the ascendant of this chart on my natal Pluto-Asc midpoint and conjunct my 10 degree Scorpio Mercury. It is opposote D.'s Mercury at 7 Taurus.

Saturn here is on my natal anti vertex, my vertex conjunct 8th house cusp.

posted May 21, 2016 12:50 PM            

Neptune on the ascendant, Jupiter on the descendant, moon on the MC. Mercury at 14° Taurus. Venus in the 3rd house conjunct Sun, opposite Mars. Something to do with communication, neighbors?

Midpoints aren't that exciting, but I'll post them later.

posted May 21, 2016 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by llewsacm:
My Venus return is today. Occurring on the same day as full moon. Hmmmm...

I was just reading up on this and voila! There's your thread Ceri.

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posted May 21, 2016 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:

Midpoints aren't that exciting, but I'll post them later.

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You mean like the Mars on the Sun/Venus-mp?

posted May 21, 2016 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

You mean like the Mars on the Sun/Venus-mp?

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posted May 21, 2016 04:21 PM            

I think there's a good argument for not being TOO vigilant with orbs. Obviously with midpoints it's much closer range we must keep but it's important to respect the validity and energy of all aspects to get a truly balanced and holistic picture of any chart or interaction... we need to even notice trines by sign, etc. To get a real understanding.

I'm just babbling though

posted May 21, 2016 04:40 PM            

1 degree is fine, maybe 1.30, but I guess maybe it is more important that at least one of the planets of the midpoint is a personal one or an angle, then the orb can be wider.

Something like Saturn= Uranus/Pluto will be valid for many many months, and while being a background noise constantly, I think it needs personal triggers.