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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26314 From: Registered: Jul 2011	posted June 07, 2016 01:24 PM Hi Yun, I did not want to crowd the other thread too much, but well my Juno-Saturn-trine is sort of part of a bigger complex. Moon 17°06 Aquarius Karma 16°01 Gemini Juno 16°58 Pisces Saturn 16°57 Cancer my name asteroid: 16°59 Taurus It`s not all major aspects of course, but the very close alignment spanning just a bit over one degree, sort of makes the 16-17 degrees of a sign "hot areas" for me. midpoints are: Moon/Saturn 2°02 Taurus Moon/Juno 2°02 Pisces Moon/Karma 16°34 Aries Moon/Ceri 2°03 Aries Juno/Saturn 16°58 Taurus Juno/Karma 1°30 Taurus Juno/Ceri 16°59 Aries Ceri/Karma 1°30 Gemini Ceri/Saturn 16°58 Gemini Karma/Saturn 1°29 Cancer Wow! I was aware of the very specific inter-connection of these planets/asteroids (though not resulting in major planetary configurations that have a name), but never even looked at the midpoints, but boy they DO explain or actually DESCRIBE a lot! Moon/Saturn might be the most important here, as Moon and Saturn are sort of the "book-ends" of this alignment. And Moon/Saturn and Juno/Karma are even sharing the same midpoint to an amazingly exact degree almost. As do Moon/Karma and Juno/Ceri. I guess there is more to this alignments story than a simple Juno-Karma-square, though it does resonate throughout obviously. There are certain aspects to natal planets, like Moon/Saturn conjunct 5th cusp: 0°27 Juno/Karma conjunct 5th cusp: 0°05 Moon/Saturn opposite Uranus: 0°41 Juno/Karma opposite Uranus: 0°09 Moon/Karma conj. Dr Sun: 0°23 Juno&Ceri conj. Dr Sun: 1°12 Juno/Saturn conj. Ceri 0°00 (and opp. Lancelot ) (Ceri/Karma opp. Amor 0°38) Ceri/Saturn conj. Karma 0°57 (Karma/Saturn opp. Vesta 0°07 Karma/Saturn opp. Nymphe 1°20 - Nypmhe on 2 Cap) -------------------------------------- Remember how I noticed that I was tending to get paranoid and run away after an encounter with Mr Sag whenever a lunation seemed to hit 2 Cap? I was wondering why that was but maybe THAT is the answer of at least part of it. my Karma/Saturn-mp. Well since they are exactly semisextile, and Vesta-Nymphe is on their midpoint, it means they MUST be quindecile Vesta and Nymphe, sort of making a very narrow tirangle, like a Yod, just more narrow, a spearhead almost, directed at 2 Cap. It must have been the sense of that possible karmic intensity or compulsion or obsession, that made me run away as quickly as I could (which did not quite help as we know). It is also startling just how strongly not only Mr Sag`s chart is activating all of these midpoints (and there I was wondering why he was not having any planet on 17 degrees of any sign, but instead he is activating the areas where the energies of these aspects flow together and crystallize ) But even more startling it is to see just HOW strongly the first meeting chart is related to that. Beginning with the Transiting Moon-Pluto-conjunction that had been conjunct my Vesta and Nymphe (and Sun/Venus and Mercury/Venus-mp), and as it turns out it was ALSO therefore conjunct my Saturn/Karma-mp. Tr Moon with an orb of 0°27 s, Tr Pluto with an orb of 0°57 applying. Additionally there was FMC Pallas conj. Moon/Saturn 1°08a FMC Pallas conj. Juno/Karma 0°34 a FMC Saturn opp. Moon/Juno 0°01 a (FMC Vesta conj. Moon/Karma 1°35 a) FMC Sun conj. Ceri/Karma 0°35 s Plus I was having a pr quarter Moon with only 0°32, separating, and pr Sun changing into Aquarius just 3 days after we met or so. Pr Moon was on 00°31 Taurus at that time, falling onto my 5th house cusp and opposing my Uranus. And pr Jupiter was conjunct n Juno precisely with 0°00 orb, so no orb, it was exact in that timeframe. (Of course I would meet a male Sagittarius, right? Especially with Tr Jupiter ALSO being conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp; Tr Juno was conjunct his Sun/Moon-mp btw, and conj. my natal Sun and our composite Sun with only 1 minute of orb) --------------------------------- The planets and asteroids and points in his chart that are related to my Moon-Juno-Karma-Saturn-midpoints are: his Vesta conj. my Moon/Saturn 0°57 his Vesta conj. my Juno/Karma 1°29 his Karma opp. my Moon/Ceri 1°15 his SN Conj. my Moon/Juno: 0°39 his Prapus conj. my Moon/Juno: 1°16 his Node square my Ceri/Karma 0°07 his Priapus square my Ceri/Karma 0°44 his Moon on the Antiscion of my Saturn/Karma 0°08 his MC on the antiscion of my Saturn/Karma 0°12 yeah well I got carried away I suppose. Sorry. But just wanted to say my Juno-Saturn-trines is sort of part of quite a complex. IP: Logged
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26314 From: Registered: Jul 2011	posted June 07, 2016 01:45 PM This is how the whole complex (without midpoints) looks, if aspect lines are drawn. [/URL] Lets better not think about where the last two lunations (in may) took place! All a coincidence I guess. BTW KAMA in Libra, is the Indian God of desire, sexual attraction, craving and longing, sort of like a Vedic Eros. IP: Logged
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2663 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014	posted June 07, 2016 01:53 PM Nope not carried away. It's all relevant and as i say i really appreciate the in depth midpoint analysis and it's fascinating to see the pieces coming together around 2 Cap. Vesta-Nymphe indeed! I can see why you might become a bit overwhelmed/need to retreat to your inner sanctum with the amount of karmic activation. You also have Moon/Karma square Saturn... quite something (phone wrote sobering and i imagine it's that too). And yes I know Kama it's conjunct my Asc. IP: Logged
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2663 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014	posted June 07, 2016 01:54 PM His Vesta though on your Moon/Saturn and Juno/Karna... it's too sweet... i almost feel like crying. My Vesta is conjunct D.'s Saturn and dawn says i need to Vesta his Saturn and not the other way around. Something like that... I'm still figuring it out. But i figure it means serving devotionally and yet somehow impartially.. from a place of deep inner feeling of rightness and total submersion in divinity... IP: Logged
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26314 From: Registered: Jul 2011	posted June 07, 2016 02:22 PM "say i really appreciate the in depth midpoint analysis and it's fascinating to see the pieces coming togethe" Yes, that is what fills me with awe actually, seeing such a part of the aspect-web unfold before my eyes. "Vesta-Nymphe indeed! I can see why you might become a bit overwhelmed" yes, he totally overwhelmed me. I mean right when we first met, I wasn`t used to someone like that. Someone exhibiting such a strong physicality, he was a threat to my "ivory-tower-mentality" and threatened to "bring me into body" (which he did as a matter of fact, even though I tried my best to prevent this. But of course this is exactly what I needed, being anchored in the physicality, as my path to enlightenment has always been different to most people. My higher chakras have always been working quite vividly, but my lower ones? Pretty much a "closed-for-business-zone".) He didn`t intend to do that of course, but He just overwhelmed me because there was just too much awareness of physicality right there all at once (his AND mine). Anyway, he probably could teach me a thing or two about the playfulness of NYMPHE as he has the asteroid conjunct his ASC and trine his Juno exact, and well my Valentine makes it a grand trine, so actually my Valentine falls onto his Nymphe/Juno-mp. lol "You also have Moon/Karma square Saturn... " Yes, made up of those strange aspects of MOon trine Saturn and Karma semisextile Saturn. I wonder, I mean, isn`t it interesting that today is the second hit of Tr Pluto opposing my n Saturn absolutely precisely? And just today I noticed that Moon/Karma-Saturn-thing along with Juno? Interestingly I JUST realize that Mr Sag`s BML is on 18 Virgo. And sort of hooks into some of these planets at least. Especially the Juno-Karma-square I guess. But also makes a Yod with my Moon-Chiron-sextile. And of course another Yod with my Moon-Saturn-quinkunx. "And yes I know Kama it's conjunct my Asc." Haha. Oh the desires right? Well I checked Mr Sag`s and his is conjunct his AURA and conjunct my JUNO. lol Actually it is on the Jupiter/Juno-mp, as these are only 6 degrees off each other in my chart anyway. Oh and naturally squares my Karma, right? Had to be! But also trines my SIVA (!) exact which is conjunct Lancelot and trine Saturn on the other side. Oh and opposing PERSEPHONE, yeah surely DID feel like a trip into the underworld. lol IP: Logged
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2663 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014	posted June 07, 2016 02:25 PM "I wonder, I mean, isn`t it interesting that today is the second hit of Tr Pluto opposing my n Saturn absolutely precisely? And just today I noticed that Moon/Karma-Saturn-thing along with Juno?" It seems to me more and more that astrological understanding is frequently synchronized with transits facilitating that particular understanding... it's very fun and cool good old planets... IP: Logged
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26314 From: Registered: Jul 2011	posted June 07, 2016 02:26 PM I like Vesta, she seems to be very much about dedication and focus, but unlike the Romans would have liked us to believe, she is not a-sexual. She comes up suprrisingly often in the context of spirituality and sexuality somehow. Not sure what to htink of this actually, but we both have her in earth signs, and his falls into my 5th house, which is kinda nice. But all in all I think it`s mainly about dedication, no matter to what. Depends on the other planet maybe. Well I wonder with Vesta-Nymphe what do I really dedicate myself to? Though having said that there are a bunch of other asteroids around there, too. STONEHENGE-KNIGHT-SINDBAD-TRISTAN-BODA(marriage) and I am sure I forget some. lol IP: Logged
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2663 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014	posted June 07, 2016 02:30 PM "Anyway, he probably could teach me a thing or two about the playfulness of NYMPHE" yes. Embodied physicality is a hard thing for many people on this earth, with sexuality having been so repressed by the ahrimanic forces/various powers that want to control the masses... If highly spiritual people physicalize... well... there's not much that can't be accomplished. In terms of magic and alchemy--caring for the planet.. and ourselves.. So long as we keep the higher and lower realms separate--mind and body--spirit and body--heaven and earth--well.. they'll be separate. This is the work of qi gong I think, and brings to mind some books i have by Zhi Gang Sha i think is his name... Tien di ren he yi being a mantra from there... meaning Heaven Earth Humans are One But in your case specifically of course it is a personal and highly unique journey (as well as perhaps having other connotations which are linked to collective consciousness etc) and I'm glad this connection to the beauty of your physical being and the potential for play and enjoyment is being facilitated in this overall gentle caring way by this person. IP: Logged
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2663 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014	posted June 07, 2016 02:31 PM Oh. .. i think of Vesta as very sexual myself. Sacred sex... which gives itself completely over to the connection with the other in the name of a divine experience... I know her energy intimately too as i also have Vesta conjunct my ascendant.. heh.. even though i am highly monogamous i can SEE myself giving myself to others and yet maintaining my Centre, and not in fact ever giving myself away, paradoxically... in the name of facilitating for them (and myself of course in an ongoing way) a connection with the divine. The sacred prostitution aspect of Vesta seems very important to me. IP: Logged
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2663 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014	posted June 07, 2016 03:01 PM Prostitute isn't the right word at all though.... IP: Logged
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2663 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014	posted June 07, 2016 03:03 PM Virgin meaning whole unto yourself no matter what i think, fits Vesta... IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4233 From: Fort Collins, CO Registered: Sep 2014	posted June 07, 2016 03:17 PM yungang what are your thoughts on this pattern: juno opposite saturn with saturn sextile cupido forming a yod with chiron and a quindecile yod with my norhtnode in the 7th. IP: Logged
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26314 From: Registered: Jul 2011	posted June 07, 2016 03:37 PM quote: Originally posted by yungang_grotto: Prostitute isn't the right word at all though.... I know what you refer to though, and it is decidedly different than what we associate with the word prostitute nowadays. IP: Logged
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2663 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014	posted June 07, 2016 06:46 PM quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: yungang what are your thoughts on this pattern: juno opposite saturn with saturn sextile cupido forming a yod with chiron and a quindecile yod with my norhtnode in the 7th. Would you mind sharing the chart? I'll focus on this aspect but it would be easier to see it.. IP: Logged

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