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MilaBirkin
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posted June 11, 2016 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like this is a great aspect, especially the conjunction and square.

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posted June 11, 2016 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't.

It depends upon the couple, and whether or not they even ARE a couple.

I'm not sure I'd ever be wild about the square, though. Too much potential for violence and mayhem.

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posted June 12, 2016 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have that.
Not a couple. Not violent.

Considering we are two relatively easygoing Sags, there seems to be a strange intensity sometimes though (we both have the square natally, and I guess we sort of bring the issues attached to it to each otherīs awareness.
For him it`s the ruler of 2nd house in 11th house square the ruler of 8th house in 7th house.
For me it`s the ruler of 5th and 6th house in 1st house square the ruler of 11th and 12th in 10th house.

I used the Taurus-house for Venus-rulership, because there is of course an innate opposition-relationship between Venus and Pluto due to their connection to Taurus-Scorpio)

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posted June 12, 2016 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What triggers the feeling of Venus/Pluto in synastry and composite? Do you actually have to be in a relationship with the person? What if you had an intimate encounter? I have the opposition in synastry with someone and the trine in composite and the Davison chart.

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posted June 12, 2016 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's in the synastry (and natals)?

Let's say, one has the conjunction in synastry, and also in composite - that's definitely a theme. Even if they don't have it natally, they'll begin to identify with it as an energy that they bring out in each other *as a couple*.

Let's say you don't have any venus-pluto synastry or natals, but it does appear in the composite.. Wonder how that plays out..(?) Those Venus-Pluto feelings only surface once you're officially *together* ? What do you guys think?

Also, case 3:
Let's say we have a Venus quincunx Pluto in synastry & a square in the composite? The misunderstandings of the quincunx will take on the proportions of full-blown drama?

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posted June 12, 2016 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if each person doesn't have any Venus/Pluto in their natal chart? Then what? So even having an intimate encounter with the person wouldn't spark the Venus/Pluto attraction? I think it did for me.QUOTE]Originally posted by Elysia:
What's in the synastry (and natals)?

Let's say, one has the conjunction in synastry, and also in composite - that's definitely a theme. Even if they don't have it natally, they'll begin to identify with it as an energy that they bring out in each other *as a couple*.

Let's say you don't have any venus-pluto synastry or natals, but it does appear in the composite.. Wonder how that plays out..(?) Those Venus-Pluto feelings only surface once you're officially *together* ? What do you guys think?

Also, case 3:
Let's say we have a Venus quincunx Pluto in synastry & a square in the composite? The misunderstandings of the quincunx will take on the proportions of full-blown drama?
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posted June 12, 2016 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
What if each person doesn't have any Venus/Pluto in their natal chart? Then what? So even having an intimate encounter with the person wouldn't spark the Venus/Pluto attraction? I think it did for me.

Yeah I agree, I don't think it "won't" be felt. Actually, it might even be more powerfully felt, since they're not used to handling that energy natally..

What do you think?

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posted June 12, 2016 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I've read that people who have Venus/Pluto aspects in their natal chart. Usually know how to handle the energy better in synastry or composite.
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Originally posted by Elysia:
Yeah I agree, I don't think it "won't" be felt. Actually, it might even be more powerfully felt, since they're not used to handling that energy natally..

What do you think?


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posted June 12, 2016 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have the square. Iq said this is a twin flame aspect. I think it denotes a great risk and trials which if overcome lead to a very profound loving connection.. but the upheaval and intensity doesn't seem to abate. It is cyclical and pronounced. Very transformative. Not a light relationship. Not much time to write now will maybe say more later.

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posted June 12, 2016 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'Had this with my college boyfriend, 2.09° orb in composite. We stayed together longer than we should have, maybe this is one reason.

It's hard to feel attached to someone and yet, not on the basis of emotional warmth or joy or anything.

I broke up with him a few times.

Once when we were broken up, I was walking down a dark alley of all places, a dark alley where someone had gotten stabbed not too long before that, and I didn't want to be there but this was the only way to go...I forget why. So I'm really scared and a dark figure is approaching, pulls his hood off and it's this ex of mine. At like 12:49 am or some other completely random time.

I was saying things like, "What the hell are you doing here?"

And he was saying, "It's fate. You think it's NOT fate? You don't believe in fate? Come back to my apartment, you shouldn't be out here...."

LOL, Venus-Pluto?

Another time I broke up with him, and rode the train into the city, and ran into him yet again. We had actually been on the same train and bumped right into each other coming off.

Random train. Random time. Random place. And the same confrontation: If we're not supposed to be together, why does this keep happening?

Pretty weird.......

Please don't quote.

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posted June 12, 2016 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would Venus square Mars in synastry cause the same energy as Venus/Pluto? People always say you need Saturn aspects for longevity yet they never say how many Saturn aspects are needed. I do think Venus/Pluto aspects are binding but I'm not sure if it's longterm. I read somewhere that the Venus/Pluto attraction usually burns out. Which is why it's important to have Saturn aspects.

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posted June 12, 2016 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have a ton of both. I guess we fight f-ck fight f-ck fight f-ck forever. LOL.

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posted June 12, 2016 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Would Venus square Mars in synastry cause the same energy as Venus/Pluto? People always say you need Saturn aspects for longevity yet they never say how many Saturn aspects are needed. I do think Venus/Pluto aspects are binding but I'm not sure if it's longterm. I read somewhere that the Venus/Pluto attraction usually burns out. Which is why it's important to have Saturn aspects.

No Venus/Mars is not much at all like Venus/Pluto. Venus/Mars is like junior high school dating compared to Venus/Pluto. Just my opinion

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posted June 12, 2016 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
We have a ton of both. I guess we fight f-ck fight f-ck fight f-ck forever. LOL.

Yeah baby.

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posted June 12, 2016 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol... maybe forever. Until somebody kills somebody etc

just kidding... yeesh

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posted June 12, 2016 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nah, not gonna get to that. LOL

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posted June 13, 2016 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
We have the square. Iq said this is a twin flame aspect. I think it denotes a great risk and trials which if overcome lead to a very profound loving connection.. but the upheaval and intensity doesn't seem to abate. It is cyclical and pronounced. Very transformative. Not a light relationship. Not much time to write now will maybe say more later.

.. Was it the composite or syanstry, btw?

@Faith, which aspect was it in your composite, the conjunction or square?

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posted June 13, 2016 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stillatlarge:
We have a ton of both. I guess we fight f-ck fight f-ck fight f-ck forever. LOL.

Ehehee!
Beginning to sound like Mars-Pluto to me...

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posted June 13, 2016 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Elysia:
@Faith, which aspect was it in your composite, the conjunction or square?

Oops forgot to say -- conjunction.

You notice everything. I love that.

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posted June 13, 2016 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
.. Was it the composite or syanstry, btw?

It is in composite that we have the square. My Venus is parallel his Pluto though. It is Venus, Sun, and Mercury square Pluto in the composite, and Pluto is conjunct the South Node and quite near the IC...

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posted June 13, 2016 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Oops forgot to say -- conjunction.

You notice everything. I love that.


D'aww..

It is fate. For Venus-Pluto, if nothing else, I can vouch for that. Forces outside of yourself, beyond your control, conspire to bring you two together. And once they do, there's no going back.

Remember that line from Casablanca? To me, it's the epitome of the Venus-Pluto magnetism (esp conjunction):

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"Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine."

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posted June 13, 2016 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
It is in composite that we have the square. My Venus is parallel his Pluto though. It is Venus, Sun, and Mercury square Pluto in the composite, and Pluto is conjunct the South Node and quite near the IC...

Wow, that whole Sun-Merc-Venus stellium squares Pluto? This relationship must be a constant, unrelenting pressure cooker of change. Intense!!

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posted June 13, 2016 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed.

I have a lot of growing to do and a lot of serving of the world to do... humility to learn.. and it's like... a ph.d relationship or something... lol... (maybe). It's not superficial.

Purifying. Ultimately. (So far it seems to be anyway)

Luckily there's true love in it.. it seems that way to me... or it would be unbearable..

I'm very plutonian.. and so.. i kind of "like" it. Lol.. He has moon parallel Pluto and Saturn in Scorpio... not much at first glance but then his midpoint pictures really show how Plutonian he actually is... very much so.

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posted June 14, 2016 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
D'aww..

It is fate. For Venus-Pluto, if nothing else, I can vouch for that. Forces outside of yourself, beyond your control, conspire to bring you two together. And once they do, there's no going back.

Remember that line from Casablanca? To me, it's the epitome of the Venus-Pluto magnetism (esp conjunction):

"Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine."


Just perfect, Elysia.

I love Casablanca, too.

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posted June 14, 2016 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So can having one intimate sexual encounter trigger the Venus/Pluto attraction?

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