posted October 09, 2012 03:50 PM            

He feels all the time I'm not being so honest with him; he fears I'm deceiving him and tbh I feel the same from time to time. But we have a neptunian relationship; it is beautiful but confusing at the same time.

Any specific questions?

It is hard to separate this placement not taking into account aspects. Uhm. Let's see. I don't feel like he is hiding me or keeping me a secret.

Let me think some more and get back to you.

posted October 09, 2012 04:00 PM            

Occasionally I feel like my intense sensuality and desire for closeness and romanticism is ignored or disliked by him. I feel I have to hide the deep longings I have for us to be together at times. I can also feel like the things I try to do for him sexually and romantically can be under-appreciated.

Another way this seems to manifest is I have an even harder time expressing anger with him, since it just hurts me so deeply to express it, but from the Cancer I can suddenly explode. Doesn't happen often but when it does it's spectacular and very emotional.

posted October 09, 2012 05:06 PM            

I'm not sure if it's our aspects between Neptune and Sun or if it's the 12th house (or both...), but I find that he thinks he knows me from top down, except he does not. I find that I know him better than he knows me. Except perhaps it's not his fault, as I choose to withhold things but it's not on purpose... they just don't seem to come up in conversations. I also don't end up sharing as much as I would like. Like there's something that's intuitively telling me to hold parts of me back from him.

There are things that I feel that I should just leave up to fate, yet he tries to force me to talk everything out and pour out my feelings to him. At the same time, I don't fully trust him nor do I think that he will fully understand the range of my thoughts and feelings. We often get into petty arguments because they stemmed from misunderstandings and miscommunication with emotions/words.

posted October 09, 2012 06:13 PM            

My sons father;
my vertex in his 12th house
it's not a planet but we both met while on hard drugs at a music arena. I walked up to him because he looked so familiar, but I had a sense he was lying to me from our first conversation and even though it still felt fated

Ex-boyfriend;
my mars in his 12th
I always felt he was doing something behind my back without telling me. I'm already alittle suspicious but the way I had to pull out information from him drove me mentally crazier than normal, it's like he was scared to tell me things (are so i felt) but the best sex LOVED it. We also gave money to these random homeless people around thanksgiving and Christmas without telling another soul a few times. Let's just say we shared some pretty unforgettable moments together in private

Work friend;
my moon in her 12th
most everyone talked about her behind her back but I felt so much sympathy for the chick for no reason at all. Basically i clicked with her on an unspokening level, and still do

posted October 09, 2012 06:20 PM            

Even when things are rough, it feels like we can always count on each other. If we were to ever separate, it would be really hard to lose my best friend.

I feel we push each other to bring out the best of our potential, like a mentor/coach. He sees me at my worst and still thinks I'm the coolest girl ever =) I see him at this worst and still think he is my rock of steadiness.

posted October 11, 2012 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by GirlinSeattle:
This is with an ex-turned-friend of 7-8 years. My Sun and Mercury are in his 12th.

I'm not sure if it's our aspects between Neptune and Sun or if it's the 12th house (or both...), but I find that he thinks he knows me from top down, except he does not. I find that I know him better than he knows me. Except perhaps it's not his fault, as I choose to withhold things but it's not on purpose... they just don't seem to come up in conversations. I also don't end up sharing as much as I would like. Like there's something that's intuitively telling me to hold parts of me back from him.

There are things that I feel that I should just leave up to date, yet he tries to force me to talk everything out and pour out my feelings to him. At the same time, I don't fully trust him nor do I think that he will fully understanding the range of my thoughts and feelings. We often get into petty arguments because they stemmed from misunderstandings and miscommunication with emotions/words.

In conclusion, this is the most frustrating/difficult relationship/friendship I've had to deal with. He and I are spiritually close, yet there are so many road blocks in the way. He's the only one, so far, with whom I've had prominent 12th house synastry. [/B]

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posted October 12, 2012 12:44 AM            

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Originally posted by CAY_512:
My Sun falls in my husband's 12th and his Sun falls into my 12th and in our composite chart, the sun falls into the 12th. We are very private with our relationship. I don't talk to anyone about us and I read (concerning the composite) that other people don't really see the relationship.

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posted October 12, 2012 01:59 AM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Mars in Cancer in my BF's 12th house.

Occasionally I feel like my intense sensuality and desire for closeness and romanticism is ignored or disliked by him. I feel I have to hide the deep longings I have for us to be together at times. I can also feel like the things I try to do for him sexually and romantically can be under-appreciated.

Another way this seems to manifest is I have an even harder time expressing anger with him, since it just hurts me so deeply to express it, but from the Cancer I can suddenly explode. Doesn't happen often but when it does it's spectacular and very emotional.

In short: I'm highly sexual, especially from Mars being my 5H ruler and strongly making a trine to Pluto, and from it opposing his natal Saturn and being in his 12th I've felt insanely sexually blocked by him at times in the past.

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Wow. Some of this sounds exactly how I feel with my husband. Been together since 2004. The chemistry is Insane! But he blocks me sexually sometimes. Like its too much for him. And he is very controlled with his emotions.I just want to sexually gobble him up. And too much makes him feel vulnerable.

posted April 20, 2013 04:09 AM            

a guy has there sun, merc, saturn, venus in my 12th and i feel like he can literally see right through me, i feel that he understands me more than i even realize he does and without even opening up to him that much. truly does feel like an "invasion" lololol but im okay with it because he sees me as beautiful its uncomfortable yet i kinda love it lol

every guy who has theyre venus in my 12th has said they see me as a really beautiful spirit...love those guys haha with just venus there its comfortable, but add more than one planet in my 12th and things start to feel funkayyyyyy

posted April 20, 2013 04:43 AM            

and my uranus and neptune in his 12th

posted April 20, 2013 06:00 AM            

As SS stated, the planet that falls in the 12th house has a hard time being expressed. That, I'm pretty sure of. I've had it happen to me a few times: their Venus in my 12th - they feel like they can't express their love/affection to me. Their Mars in my 12th - their sexuality is blocked, or they can't take action properly around me. Their Moon in my 12th - they can't show their vulnerability/deep emotions to me. And so on.
But that's mainly if the planet is afflicted! If it makes flowing aspects to the house person's planets, it is more easily expressed.

Now, when I'm the planet person, I usually like their 12th house. Like I can see their vulnerabilities and I actually empathize with them. I feel compassionate, and really just plain love them. Not necessarily in a romantic sense, but more in a.. spiritual sense. Like I can see their soul and I deeply accept it and love it. But, as I said, there are exceptions. Sometimes I can't stand them. I guess that depends on the overall synastry.

I've actually only just realized that as the planet person, I do feel something, too.. I used to think that only the house person was affected but that doesn't seem to be true.

House person doesn't see planet person clearly and can idealize them or make huge assumptions about them (sometimes negative). But the planet person seems to have the upper hand: they see house person more clearly and are more aware of the situation.

That's why the house person can sometimes end up being hurt: they didn't see it coming. They were too busy building castles in the sky, and the planet person happens to have their feet on the ground. Boom! Disillusion. Welcome to reality!

I do believe that it can work out wonderfully, too.

posted April 20, 2013 06:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
In my experience, the house person is more affected by the Neptune "fog" than the planet person.

As SS stated, the planet that falls in the 12th house has a hard time being expressed. That, I'm pretty sure of. I've had it happen to me a few times: their Venus in my 12th - they feel like they can't express their love/affection to me. Their Mars in my 12th - their sexuality is blocked, or they can't take action properly around me. Their Moon in my 12th - they can't show their vulnerability/deep emotions to me. And so on.
But that's mainly if the planet is afflicted! If it makes flowing aspects to the house person's planets, it is more easily expressed.

Now, when I'm the planet person, I usually like their 12th house. Like I can see their vulnerabilities and I actually empathize with them. I feel compassionate, and really just plain love them. Not necessarily in a romantic sense, but more in a.. spiritual sense. Like I can see their soul and I deeply accept it and love it. But, as I said, there are exceptions. Sometimes I can't stand them. I guess that depends on the overall synastry.

I've actually only just realized that as the planet person, I do feel something, too.. I used to think that only the house person was affected but that doesn't seem to be true.

House person doesn't see planet person clearly and can idealize them or make huge assumptions about them (sometimes negative). But the planet person seems to have the upper hand: they see house person more clearly and are more aware of the situation.

That's why the house person can sometimes end up being hurt: they didn't see it coming. They were too busy building castles in the sky, and the planet person happens to have their feet on the ground. Boom! Disillusion. Welcome to reality!

I do believe that it can work out wonderfully, too.

The house person can have recurrent dreams of the planet person, also. That's an interesting fact I've noticed.

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Don't know that I agree. A friend of mine whose Sun falls into my 12th house has told me that she finds me very complex. We were talking about people we both knew and how she can see past their facade to what was underneath. I asked what she saw when she saw through me. She said, "I don't, you're too complex." My dad has his Venus in my 12th and constantly tries to bend over backwards to help me out with things I can do for myself. It's appreciated, but i can do it, lol. I've had other people with planets in my 12th who tell me things similar to what the friend above mentioned. I don't find myself idealizing these people either. What's interesting is that those with activity overlaying my 12th have tended to put me up on a pedestal.

Also, keep in mind that although the 12th is a receptive house and some might feel that the house person "feels it more," the planet person may have that planet of their in a receptive house to begin with. That can also affect to what extent a person feels it, house person or planet person.

Bottom line from my experience, The planet (or sun or moon) person feels it to a greater degree.

posted April 20, 2013 06:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Bottom line: houses in astrology.. always tricky

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