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cchampliss2
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posted June 22, 2016 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus conjunct Pluto 12th house in a composite. What does this mean?

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posted June 23, 2016 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whew.

Intense.

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posted June 23, 2016 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sex attraction and power struggles.

There could be some emotional wounding.

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posted June 23, 2016 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me and mine in the 4th.

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posted June 24, 2016 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this currently. You need to take into account of rulership and if any of the individuals natal planets or angles or asteroids hard aspecting this will tell you more details how this aspect will play out in the long run.

Basically strong sexual spiritual psychic unconscious attraction will be formed, it also depends if both people are (12th house friendly and are Plutonian)The attraction is felt very intensely in the beginning by both parties but later on the female OR THE ONE THAT IS THE MOST EMPATHETIC OR WHOEVER IS THE PSYCHIC SPONGE IN THE RELATIONSHIP WILL BE THE MOST IMPACTED by this configuration in the 12th house in my opinion!!!!

Again, I repeat, you need to compare natals to this aspect with an orb of 4 degrees of all the hard aspects to tell you how exactly this will play out for you.

I hope this helped, as I have had this aspect myself.

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posted June 24, 2016 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lucia23:
Sex attraction and power struggles.

There could be some emotional wounding.


That sure manifested for me! mine was in Scorpio. Emotional wounding? For sure!

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posted June 24, 2016 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyctea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a (composite) Venus-Mars-Pluto conjunction in the 8th house with someone. It was so HOT.

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posted June 24, 2016 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does this aspect also appear in the synastry? If it does, it'll be a theme.

It's beautifully intense..you must have read all the descriptions. At first the 'bad' parts don't seem to manifest, esp with the conjunction.

Power struggles? Manipulation? Jealousy? Nahh..you love each other *too much* for all that s**t...

It can feel like a staring match where both are winning. Your eyes are locked in a never-ending embrace. No-one wants to look away..what could go wrong? Just wait till one of you accidentally blinks or looks away for a fraction of a second, 'coz a fly was hovering near their nose. Just like that, *snap* the spell is broken. All aboard the crazy train.

The trouble with this aspect is, that even an iota of attention/affection given to things outside the relationship is seen, on a sub-conscious level, as a threat. Notice I said 'things', not even people. Yeah, even outside hobbies are a threat. The other aspect in synastry that comes close is Venus-Saturn hard aspects, which are also jealous of energies spent outside of the relationship. But there - the resentment will be more clearly known, if not spoken. They'll very obviously interfere with your plans. Venus-Pluto is a smooth criminal.

You won't know what hit you. But all of a sudden, you realize that it's been months since you hung out with your friends and you don't even get called anymore. How did that happen? Sneaky, eh? Yet powerful. Capacity for immense love and immense hurt both hide in there. In the conjunction, they're enmeshed. You may be having the greatest moment together, in the middle of one of your most turbulent times. It's all one. In the square, it's a constant struggle; in the opposition, a periodic push-pull - the differences between the highs and lows will be marked in those aspects. In the conjunction, however, it's all one. Love and pain and hate and rage and tenderness.

Venus-Pluto will make for some incredibly close bonding. A lot of *fated* encounters. Fate does conspire to bring you together. I think there was another thread on this recently, where I'd quoted the line that to me, most signifies Venus-Pluto. From Casablanca,
"Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine."

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posted June 24, 2016 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah but the 12th house is where things are hard to express on the physical plane so i would say this intense attraction would manifest on a hidden/spiritual level, which is how that manifested for me.

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posted June 24, 2016 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Hmm..true..
For the record, I wasn't considering the house..just a general impression.

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posted June 24, 2016 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, yes, yes to all who commented on how this is like.

I have a close conjunction of these two in the 8th house with two people. It's the greatest thing until it turns in to torture. Oh, so passionate and intense. Love and hate at the same time when things start to get ugly. Bouts of control and manipulation... blech, just thinking about it drains me.

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posted June 24, 2016 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
^ Hmm..true..
For the record, I wasn't considering the house..just a general impression.

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posted June 24, 2016 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by angel4845:
I have this currently. You need to take into account of rulership and if any of the individuals natal planets or angles or asteroids hard aspecting this [b]will tell you more details how this aspect will play out in the long run.

Basically strong sexual spiritual psychic unconscious attraction will be formed, it also depends if both people are (12th house friendly and are Plutonian)The attraction is felt very intensely in the beginning by both parties but later on the female OR THE ONE THAT IS THE MOST EMPATHETIC OR WHOEVER IS THE PSYCHIC SPONGE IN THE RELATIONSHIP WILL BE THE MOST IMPACTED by this configuration in the 12th house in my opinion!!!!

Again, I repeat, you need to compare natals to this aspect with an orb of 4 degrees of all the hard aspects to tell you how exactly this will play out for you.

I hope this helped, as I have had this aspect myself.

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Your description is spot on.

I'm a 12H'er, he's Plutonian (Pluto tightly aspecting all of his planets, except for Uranus; Mars 8H)

Power struggles/games don't really exist in our marriage... Unless me not replying his txt for 2 hours count? I'm jealous and quite posessive, BUT I don't really show it. He hates drama, despises it actually. His Scorpio mum LOVES drama. My husband thanked me on a number of occasions for not being like his mum. (THANK YOU JUPITER and my lovely Sag stellium <3 )

I'm an emotional sponge, prone to depression and very secretive. He doesn't like to talk about his emotions or feelings, despite his Cancer Moon. We have a very good, understanding and psychic relationship. He doesn't try to "solve" me, I keep peace. We KNOW when we are hurting, happy, need to be alone or want a company. We have a say-at-the-same-time moments every day. For example, today we started singing the same, most random song at the same time... What are the odds?

As for your point about rulership... Maybe it's more easy going for us because Venus/Pluto(<1) is CONJ his Natal Sun/Mercury/Jupiter/Pluto and SEX my Natal Sun?

Also Venus and Pluto are 7HR and 1HR in our Composite.

Natally, we have Venus semi-sq and contra-parrallel Pluto.


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posted June 25, 2016 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow!!! I'm glad you understood my description!! And I'm so happy this aspect you have with your husband is beautiful!!! Sounds like you have the good qualities of this aspect I unfornately dealt with the negative side manipulation And power struggles completely!!

I think it matters so much if both people are 12th house friendly because the person that I had this with he is not 12th house friendly at all!!!! Despite that composite Pluto is conjunct his 4/5th ruler Mercury & 9th ruler Pluto in Scorpio in the 9th house. He defently was the manipulator. I don't usually like to blame things at people but my god he is so Plutonian but he is SAG PLUTONIAN HES GOT JUPITER AND LOTS OF LEO ENERGY INFLUENCING HIS PLUTONIANESS. he's got the NN in the 12th house and his 12th ruler SATURN in the 12th house which I blame the reason why he finds spirituality stupid. Anyways composite Venus opposes my natal DEJANIRA which I defently resonate here because I did feel naive and stupid to think love could manifest between us but I was wrong. This is why I feel comparing natals is so important because you can see how a person is affected by the composite planet and/or angles.

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posted June 25, 2016 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that's amazing that the composite Venus conjunct Pluto is the 7th ruler and 1st ruler that is wonderful in my opinion

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posted June 25, 2016 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I completely forgot about this post. Thank you all very much for responding.

This one has been a difficult one. And I agree with those that have said there is a psychic link to it. We have been broken up for awhile now and I seemed to have been doing fine, but then I get this intense ache in my chest. Like this pull that I can't quite explain and I'll miss them with every single thread of my being.

Joking aside, I asked this because I never paid attention to the house that venus was conj pluto in for our composite before. I don't know how this works, but the person's venus is in my 7th house, their moon and pluto in my 8th. My pluto is in their first and my moon in their 12th. I keep telling myself that I made the right decision to break it off and walk away, but I can't help but feel like sometimes I still pick up on their emotions from afar. And maybe vice versa.

Thanks again for all the responses. I'm still trying to work through this one.

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