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Topic: What are aspects that help with Venus square Saturn in synastry?
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ChildofVenus
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posted July 03, 2016 01:37 PM
  
Are there any aspects in synastry that help with the difficulties of having Venus square Saturn in synastry? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted July 03, 2016 03:17 PM
Venus-Jupiter would be a nice balance. As rule of thumb, saturn and Jupiter aspects often can balance each other. though neither would disappear. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted July 03, 2016 04:08 PM
So having a Venus/Jupiter aspect in a composite chart could help balance the Venus square Saturn in synastry?
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Venus-Jupiter would be a nice balance. As rule of thumb, saturn and Jupiter aspects often can balance each other. though neither would disappear.
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Belage
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posted July 03, 2016 10:11 PM
This is a very difficult aspect. The only thing that would balance it if is both partners are very Saturnian themselves, Also, if in their natal charts, Venus makes aspects to Saturn, good or bad, then they already are familiar with this energy and can better handle it. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted July 03, 2016 10:40 PM
Well I have Venus square Saturn in my natal chart and the guy has Venus sextile Saturn in his.
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This is a very difficult aspect. The only thing that would balance it if is both partners are very Saturnian themselves, Also, if in their natal charts, Venus makes aspects to Saturn, good or bad, then they already are familiar with this energy and can better handle it.
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posted July 03, 2016 10:47 PM
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Well I have Venus square Saturn in my natal chart and the guy has Venus sextile Saturn in his.
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ChildofVenus
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posted July 04, 2016 09:10 AM
But how does having these aspects in our natal charts help us deal with the Venus square Saturn aspect in synastry? He has the sextile not the square. So him having the soft aspect in his chart would still help? quote:
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
[b]Well I have Venus square Saturn in my natal chart and the guy has Venus sextile Saturn in his.
There you go~ [/B][/QUOTE] IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted July 04, 2016 12:47 PM
^^^Yes, it would still help, because he is familiar with the energy of Saturn-Venus interaction.In the synastry, the person who is the Saturn has to be mindful and exercise restraint. Hopefully it's you, because as an astrologer, you can have this thing called awareness, which other people don't. Awareness of our situation and our issues enables us to deal with them better. If you are the Saturn and you know that Saturn square Venus will find faults and overly criticize Venus, then you can rein in this particular aspect. The proper use of Saturn requires maturity, not fear. If you are the Venus, well, you already have this aspect in your chart, so it's familiar territory to you. Working on your own Saturn square Venus issues will help you deal better with his Saturn squaring your Venus. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted July 04, 2016 01:38 PM
I am the Saturn person and I try my best not to criticize him. But I feel that I have before but I've apologized to him numerous times just in case I made him feel that way. He's the one who has Venus sextile Saturn in his chart and I have Venus square Saturn. Which means I'm use to the energy with the square. But how would he feel about the Venus square Saturn in synastry? Being as though he has the sextile in his natal chart? And does having Venus square Jupiter in composite help with the Venus square Saturn in synastry? quote:
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^^^Yes, it would still help, because he is familiar with the energy of Saturn-Venus interaction.In the synastry, the person who is the Saturn has to be mindful and exercise restraint. Hopefully it's you, because as an astrologer, you can have this thing called awareness, which other people don't. Awareness of our situation and our issues enables us to deal with them better. If you are the Saturn and you know that Saturn square Venus will find faults and overly criticize Venus, then you can rein in this particular aspect. The proper use of Saturn requires maturity, not fear. If you are the Venus, well, you already have this aspect in your chart, so it's familiar territory to you. Working on your own Saturn square Venus issues will help you deal better with his Saturn squaring your Venus.
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posted July 04, 2016 07:16 PM
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I am the Saturn person and I try my best not to criticize him. But I feel that I have before but I've apologized to him numerous times just in case I made him feel that way. He's the one who has Venus sextile Saturn in his chart and I have Venus square Saturn. Which means I'm use to the energy with the square. But how would he feel about the Venus square Saturn in synastry? Being as though he has the sextile in his natal chart? And does having Venus square Jupiter in composite help with the Venus square Saturn in synastry?
I don't know how your SO feels, but I would guess having your Saturn square his Venus doesn't feel good. But it's up to you to use your Saturn with maturity, VS using it with fear (fear that he is going to leave you, fear that you're not good enough, fear that he is not doing enough etc... If you haven't gone through your first Saturn return yet, you are more likely to have a fearful saturn vs a mature Saturn. Also, the sign and house placements of your Saturn matter. It's not about never criticizing your partner. That would be unrealistic. My advice is pick your battles. Only criticize him for stuff that REALLY matter, and even then, criticize the action, not the person. And let go of the rest. Saturn squares someone's personal planets can be like a task master, obsessed about finding flaws here, there and everywhere and making the person feel wrong and insignificant. Focus on what you guys have in your chart that strengthen your bond and cultivate it.
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ChildofVenus
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posted July 04, 2016 09:16 PM
I think I'm currently in my first Saturn return he and I aren't in a relationship. We are friends well I guess maybe we are in a sexual relationship. His Pluto is in aspects to a lot of my personal placements. To my Venus,Mars and Moon we also have a Mars/Mars aspect. His Saturn squares my Mercury. But his Mercury sextiles my Saturn. Then we have a Venus/Jupiter aspect in our composite. I love this aspect because we have fun when we are together. This is one of my favorite aspects. We also have Venus trine Neptune double whammy. And Mars sextile Saturn in composite. We don't live in the same state which I know it's hard to be friends with someone when you don't live close. But I would actually move closer to him.
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I don't know how your SO feels, but I would guess having your Saturn square his Venus doesn't feel good. But it's up to you to use your Saturn with maturity, VS using it with fear (fear that he is going to leave you, fear that you're not good enough, fear that he is not doing enough etc... If you haven't gone through your first Saturn return yet, you are more likely to have a fearful saturn vs a mature Saturn. Also, the sign and house placements of your Saturn matter. Yes one of my fears is that one day he and I will lose contact with each other. I hate the thought of it and it makes me physically ill. I just want us to be friends forever I do love him.It's not about never criticizing your partner. That would be unrealistic. My advice is pick your battles. Only criticize him for stuff that REALLY matter, and even then, criticize the action, not the person. And let go of the rest. Saturn squares someone's personal planets can be like a task master, obsessed about finding flaws here, there and everywhere and making the person feel wrong and insignificant. Focus on what you guys have in your chart that strengthen your bond and cultivate it.
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Belage
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posted July 05, 2016 03:37 AM
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... he and I aren't in a relationship. We are friends well I guess maybe we are in a sexual relationship. ...
That doesn't sound too good. Natal Saturn in hard aspects to Venus can manifest as someone who doesn't think they're good enough to have a good relationship, so they put up with a lot of crap. If you are friends with benefits, be clear that this is what it is and don't get your feelings involved. With the saturn/Venus square natally and in synastry, you will be the one hurt. The other person has Venus sextile Saturn, so he has a good grasp of his emotions and of what serves him. You, not so much, Saturn square Venus creates deep insecurities. I am afraid the Venus Jupiter square in composite is not a glue at all, but does provide some level of fun but nothing serious and long lasting.
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ChildofVenus
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posted July 05, 2016 06:54 AM
I said I thought it was a sexual relationship because we've been intimate. And he's ok with me coming to see him whenever I want. So wouldn't that make it a sexual relationship if we are intimate whenever we meet? I also have Venus square Uranus in my natal chart which is a tight aspect (2°23s) more so than the Venus square Saturn aspect in my natal which is (8°08s) I'm sure you've read about people who have the Venus square Uranus aspect. I believe this one affects me more so than the Venus/Saturn aspect. My Venus is in Pisces and my Uranus and Saturn is in Sagittarius. I don't feel like I'm not worthy of love I was in a long term serious relationship for 9 years. I'm not sure why the Venus/Saturn aspect makes people feel unworthy of love. Perhaps I feel this way because the aspect really isn't that tight. Actually sometimes I feel like people aren't worthy of my love which is the opposite. But my Venus in Pisces makes me want to give love regardless. Having the Venus/Uranus aspect I like to have my space which is why I don't feel the need to have a man around all the time. The guy who has Venus sextile Saturn also has a Moon square Venus aspect in his natal. So I'm not really sure that he has a handle on his feelings. Yes I know Venus/Jupiter isn't glue but I mentioned that we do have some Saturn aspects. You know about us having the Venus/Saturn aspect. Then we have a Mars/Saturn aspect in composite. His Saturn trine my MC. I don't know if the Mercury/Saturn aspects are relevant. My Saturn also conjuncts his moon in Sagittarius in synastry. I've read that Venus square Saturn can sometimes be a binding aspect in synastry but I'm not sure. We have Saturn aspects in our Davison chart as well but I know some people only count the synastry and composite chart.
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
[b]... he and I aren't in a relationship. We are friends well I guess maybe we are in a sexual relationship. ...
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That doesn't sound too good. Natal Saturn in hard aspects to Venus can manifest as someone who doesn't think they're good enough to have a good relationship, so they put up with a lot of crap. If you are friends with benefits, be clear that this is what it is and don't get your feelings involved. With the saturn/Venus square natally and in synastry, you will be the one hurt. The other person has Venus sextile Saturn, so he has a good grasp of his emotions and of what serves him. You, not so much, Saturn square Venus creates deep insecurities. I am afraid the Venus Jupiter square in composite is not a glue at all, but does provide some level of fun but nothing serious and long lasting. [/B][/QUOTE]
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ChildofVenus
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posted July 05, 2016 03:03 PM
Belage you are right though about how I need to learn how to control the Saturn energy being as it's my Saturn that makes contact with most of his personal planets. It's kinda of weird because he's older than me. And with him it's like a teacher/student relationship. My Saturn makes aspects to his Sun, Moon, Mercury and Venus in synastry. This might be the reason why I feel so strongly about him. Yet his Pluto makes aspects to most of my personal planets. But Venus/Jupiter brings fun to a relationship I would think that it's important. Maybe because I like having fun Jupiter makes aspects to my Moon, Mercury and Mars in my natal and it conjuncts my North Node. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 05, 2016 11:46 AM
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ChildofVenus
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posted July 05, 2016 12:06 PM
I guess Saturn is no joke...
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Belage
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posted July 05, 2016 03:21 PM
ChildofVenus, you asked a question about 1 aspect and I answered as best I could with the information you gave. Now as it turns out, you also have natal Venus square Uranus in even tighter aspect than Venus square Saturn. And a bunch of other stuff happening in your chart and his. My bad.~Note to myself: In the future on LindaLand, do not offer any answer about any particular aspect, unless you have seen the whole chart. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted July 05, 2016 03:39 PM
Hey I was just giving you more information about our charts that's all. I appreciate your input its very helpful I was just stating that because the Venus/Saturn aspect was so wide it may not affect me as much. Someone else here told me I should focus more on the Venus/Uranus aspect in my natal since the aspect is so tight. quote:
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ChildofVenus, you asked a question about 1 aspect and I answered as best I could with the information you gave. Now as it turns out, you also have natal Venus square Uranus in even tighter aspect than Venus square Saturn. And a bunch of other stuff happening in your chart and his. My bad.~Note to myself: In the future on LindaLand, do not offer any answer about any particular aspect, unless you have seen the whole chart.
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Belage
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posted July 05, 2016 04:07 PM
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Hey I was just giving you more information about our charts that's all. I appreciate your input its very helpful I was just stating that because the Venus/Saturn aspect was so wide it may not affect me as much. Someone else here told me I should focus more on the Venus/Uranus aspect in my natal since the aspect is so tight.
Sorry for the way I phrased my thoughts, it was not meant to be a personal attack on you. It's just a reminder for me that individual aspects cannot be disassociated from the chart. You seem to understand what natal Venus Square Uranus means in general. Now the issue is what does it mean for you in YOUR chart, and for that, look at house and sign placements and of course orb tightness. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted July 05, 2016 05:52 PM
Well my Venus in Pisces is in the 8th house and I have Uranus in Sagittarius in my 4th house.
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Sorry for the way I phrased my thoughts, it was not meant to be a personal attack on you. It's just a reminder for me that individual aspects cannot be disassociated from the chart. You seem to understand what natal Venus Square Uranus means in general. Now the issue is what does it mean for you in YOUR chart, and for that, look at house and sign placements and of course orb tightness.
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Septembergirl
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posted July 07, 2016 02:01 PM
I always have wondered about this....
Saturn in Leo, which is in detriment, square Venus in Libra, which is exalted....
Would that make the square aspect easier or more difficult??
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