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Topic: Ceri ~ DAH chat
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moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 2286 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 08, 2016 04:01 PM
Hi! I noticed previous threads where you had chatted about DAH I think I have encountered an important (& upcoming) date in my relationship. Would you mind giving it a second look?? I can post the individual charts with the respective DAH charts for each I think I also read somewhere that you can do a DAH composite? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26910 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 08, 2016 04:59 PM
yes I can have a look. Also post the natals, and the birthtime needs to be absolutley correct. IP: Logged |
moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 2286 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 08, 2016 09:55 PM
Natal for him: [img]https://s31.postimg.org/fmtxbg3hz/RSNatal.jpg[/img]DAH for him [img]https://s31.postimg.org/8p1e32ss7/RSHarmonic.jpg[/img] Natal for me: [img]https://s31.postimg.org/ktrkzzckn/ABNatal.jpg[/img] DAH for me: [img]https://s32.postimg.org/b1s82tkxt/ABHarmonic.jpg[/img] IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26910 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 09, 2016 09:31 AM
What program did you use? Why is it showing DESC and IC like that? Or rather, why doesn`t mine do? lol
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26910 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 09, 2016 12:04 PM
Yes I can see how that would be an intense day for both of you, though possibly something might happen 2 days prior to this. Major features for you ----------------------- 2 days prior to this day you are having DAH ASC conjunct DAH Venus on 13 Leo DAH Vertex opposite DAH Sun 10 Sag-Gem on that day: DAH MC opposite Pluto on 9 Aries-Libra DAH Venus square n MC on 13 Leo-Scorpio
DAH DESC opposite n Mars 5 Aqua - 6 Leo DAH Mercury square n MC 13 Aqua-Scorpio DAH SN conjunct n MC and square n Neptune 6 Aries- 6 Cap DAH Neptune conjunct n Venus 13 Cancer and the most exact aspects within the chart Venus opposite Merucry 0°11 13 Leo-Aqua ------------------------------------ he is going to have 2 days prior: DAH DESC conjunct DAH Juno 9 Pisces that day:
DAH Pluto square DAH NN 15 Scorpio - Leo DAH Moon opposite DAH Venus 8 Cap - 9 Cancer and 2 days later:
DAH ASC conjunct DAH Pluto 13-15 Scorpio from the DAH chart to his natal:
DAH Vx opposite n VX from 28 Libra- 29 Aries DAH IC conjunct n Pltuo 5 Scorpio- 3 Scorpio (almost 4 degrees) DAH ASC oppospite n Mars 13 Scorpio - 13 Taurus DAH Chiron conjunct n SN 20 scorpio DAH Saturn opposite n Chiron 5 Sag - 4 Gem DAH Mars square n Venus 14 Cap-Aries DAH juno opposite n Moon 9 Pisces - 8 Virgo exact aspects within the DAH chart: Pluto square NN 0.41 Mars trine Uranus 0.11 Neptune quinkunx Mercury 0.13 Juno trine Venus 0.49 The timeframes I gave need not be correct, the motion of the angles depends if there is a fast or slow rising sign at the angle, but as rule of thumb the angles (and the personal planets) move about 0°30- 1°00 per day, which is the reason we need to keep the orb under 1 degree if trying to figure out a precise event-day. Also whatever is conjunct an angle (and I suspect squares might work, too, though maybe more subtly) becomes forefront and is usually what manifests, that is why the angular planets need to be identified and THEN we can take other aspects into consideration to those angular planets, too. An angular planet receiving a trine might actually show itself very much.
And isolated trine? Probably not so much. I also think that if we have synastric planets conjunct (or squaring) an angle in synastry those angles might bring the planets into the foreground, manifesting them, shine a light on them.
That would be the primary check up. Secondary check up then, almsot as important, are conjunctions in particular, but maybe also oppositions and squares to the luminaries, nodal axis and Vertex-axis. That is why I singled out these factors in your write up. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26910 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 09, 2016 12:31 PM
What we see in the intercross connections on one glance is the overlays at 13 degrees of fixed signs - of course there will be other important overlays and cross connections, that I donīt mention here, but this one is so interesting as it brings angular factors of BOTH charts into play! Actually this relates to 13 AND 15 degrees, so something might happen in the span of these 2-3 days. so your DAH Venus 13 Leo (DAH ASC 15 Leo)
your DAH Mercury 13 Aquarius your n MC 13 Scorpio - this evidently puts your n MC on the Mercury/Venus-mp of the daily harmonic chart and in angular relations. Looks like a romantic date to me, or at least communications about romance will be highlighted. Even though not in a 4th harmonic aspect, the fact that DAH Neptune conjunct n Venus on 13 Cancer seems very important, too, though it quinkunx the DAH Mercury.
A lot of romance there, but maybe also some rose coloured glasses. Especiaally with DAH SN squaring n Neptune (not tied to the 13 degrees area though), this might be either a dream come true, very magical, romantic, spiritual, or something will dissolve, be unclear, confusing. It is always difficult to say with Neptune. DAH Neptune is also quinkunx n Mars. which would emphasize that I guess. But as I said could also be true magic. Let`s not assume the Neptunian fog, but more the violins you might hear. -------------------------
Anyway relating to your 13 degree combo of
DAH Venus 13 Leo DAH Mercury 13 Aqua n MC 13 Scorpio DAH Neptune 13 Cancer n Venus 13 Cancer he has DAH Pluto 15 Scorpio DAH NN 15 Leo (your Mercury-Venus applying to this in the frame of 2 days after the event you named) DAH ASC 13 Scorpio that one is in play at the moment, and well putting his DAH ASC on your n MC on the midpoint of your DAH Mercury/Venus - so the communication about love and romance or creativity will definitely relate to him, and it will be VITAL to his further path, but also with Pluto involved very very intense -w hich could be very binding and compelling or destructive in a worst case scenario. his n Mars is making this a Grand Cross from 13 Taurus, putting it onto your DAH Mercury/Venus-mp, squaring both For both of you Venus and Mars are involved, so whatever this is about, it has a lot to do with relationship and with sex, quite frankly.
I am a little stumped with the Chironic aspects in his chart though. something painful, an old wound being triggered (but I am not sure if by you, you are not strongly connected to that, so I think it might not be so relevant to the interaction between you, more some kind of byproduct of the day for him. Well honestly I am wondering if there will be either a marriage/ relationship proposal or a break up that day.
I opt more for the proposal or the plans to move in together though. his MOon-Venus-opposition in the DAH is being square your DAH MC and DAH Pluto, so it seems like there will be overwhelming intense transformations in terms of your emotional relationship, and involving your MC it makes me think of a change of status or location for you in particular. And for him this is going to be extremely significant and powerful, too as his ASC - DESC on 10 aries-libra is involved. I also wonder if your DAH Uranus might be part of this as well, on 7 Cancer conjunct your n Mercury exact, but at the same time triggering the natal Mercury-Neptune-opposition, putting it into a square to the DAH Node. His DAH Moon is close enough to that DAH Uranus-N Mercury of course, but out of orb for the opposition to your Neptune, though this would have been in play 1-2 days prior to this. I donīt know, there is a surprise in here for you, but with Mercury-Neptune and with such strong Neptune, I am not really sure how to interprete it, as it really could be either, very good or very bad. Maybe it just means bringing a more dreamy connection into reality? Making it more solid somehow? Or ending any confusions and misconceptions about the nature of your emotional connection to each other.
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moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 2286 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 09, 2016 07:08 PM
Ceri - wow!! Thank you so much for all the work you out into looking at our charts I'm on my phone, but I'm going to open my laptop so I can reply and give you some better feedback Bbs! Also, please don't hesitate to let me know if I can take a look at some chart(s) for you also. I really appreciate your insight. IP: Logged |
moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 2286 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 09, 2016 07:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: What program did you use? Why is it showing DESC and IC like that? Or rather, why doesn`t mine do? lol
Solar Fire V9 :-) I love it! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26910 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 09, 2016 07:24 PM
I have Solar Fire too. But some other versionIP: Logged |
moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 2286 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 09, 2016 07:50 PM
I had actually thought, from looking at the Solar Returns for both of us that proposal was possible. He moved into my apartment last Dec and we just got our first apartment together 3 weeks ago I hope that the Uranus and Mercury/Neptune isn't bad...I noticed those aspects also and wondered if me guessing proposal was just me *Wanting* to see that?
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moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 2286 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 09, 2016 07:51 PM
I wonder if looking at our composite or progressed composite would help give further details?IP: Logged |
moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 2286 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 09, 2016 08:03 PM
As additional feedback, this day we're scheduled to travel out of state to attend his cousin's wedding So should be a fun time I wonder if the chiron aspects he'll experience will stem from being among family?? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26910 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 10, 2016 05:30 AM
Fun times sounds very Mercury-Venus-like, yes. Chiron-aspects could relate to the family, but Idon`t know how his relation to his family is, depends a little. I wonder how your harmonic composite looks, you can cast it on Solar fire. just make a composite of both harmonic charts. I am going to have a look at a particular date for me, too. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26910 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 10, 2016 05:47 AM
My future event looking like this my natal plus DAH plus transits
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moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 2286 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 10, 2016 08:31 PM
sorry it took me so long to replywhat I saw first was the T NN conj. DAH Uranus in your natal 10th house, something sudden and unexpected which other people will likely know about T Vx conj Ceres(?) - I'm not great w/asteroids - conj. nSaturn in 8th house - T vertex conj. Saturn can show a fated event to do with stabilizing your shared resources, or perhaps some sort of loss/delay?? I like the node/Neptune conj. to DAH Venus and nJupiter in4th house - perhaps bc it seems to soften the edge of Saturn and the shock of Uranus, and being in the 4th house it's like there's a soft place to fall T Saturn conj. DAH moon conj. nASC/Neptune - this (for me) was when I started losing weight, lol...but for you it seems that domestic affairs will affect you in a much more serious/personal way DAH ASC in your natal 11h is neat too..maybe ushering in a chapter of bringing a wish you've had come true? DAH NN conj DAH Venus in the DAH 8th house/Natal 4th house I keep thinking w/all the ASC/IC/MC & 8H that maybe this is related to the family and moving in together if you aren't already or perhaps looking into real estate together?? For him - DAH Saturn conj. Natal ASC - so again, something serious, some desire/wish (Saturn rules his 11h) coming to the forefront T Vx conj. DAH Jupiter/MC in the natal 4H - so again, more 4H real estate, land, family and expansion themes T Sun conj. DAH Mercury (which Mercury rules the DAH ASC) in the natal 5H so this is a nice aspect, showing some excitement and romance..if there were more 5h in other places, I might be thinking pregnancy announcement...but I think this is the only 5H aspect showing up? T Saturn conj. Natal Mercury (4h ruler) - so this just reiterates what I've already mentioned - so again a potential change in the home, getting more serious about home life/land/real estate I hope this helps
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26910 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 11, 2016 05:53 AM
Thank you Moonstruck, and sorry, but i have the wrong houses on the charts, I put in there equal by mistake. Anyway, we are just aquaintances or something like it I`d say. So no moving in together. Hopefully no pregnancy announcement either. It just sort of surprised how much more our communication has taken up lately. Since it pretty much comes down to him being an actor, it just surprises me how much in the centre of attention I usually feel when he`s around. Heck, he even pretty much scheduled the gathering in august around my schedule (or at least it seemed important to him that I would be there); how did he call it? "A get-together with fanfriends for coffee and cake" lol plus concert. So this will actually be af ew hours and this is just the beginning. But sounds fitting Ceres - for a cake-event. Besides he seems to like to dissect my food anyway. Just giving a bit of background information. It`s not easy to put that into a category. I am not really that much of a fan (I like his work of course, but the whole fan-stuff? Usually I observe it and feel like an alien. lol and he knows that as I flatly refused an autograph of him once, telling him I wouldnt even know what to do with an autograph. He seemed quite surprised and confused. Nothing he hears too often I guess. lol I occasionally give feedback to certain things I noticed in his performance, but that`s about the amount of my fandom, and really sometimes I feel like such a teacher. I can`t just admire someone, I will always have to point out specifics why i think something is good or not. lol). I am not a friend either of course. I am audience, but at the same time I am also somehow in the spotlight (because he pulls me there). And for some reason my (random) comments seem to somehow being received by him like through a megaphone. I had just randomly pointed out last time we met that he had become rather quiet and not in a very communicative mood. To which he was putting a message 3 days later, that he had been scolded for having become so silent (and agreeing with it actualy). I never scold him! I just pointed out a random observation I had made. Nevertheless he then started doing these podcasts with his best friend, just chatting about this and that, on an own facebook page, and curiously it does not have that much resonance, it`s pretty much just his best friend, a colleague of him, him and me conversing there. It`s all a little bizarre, but fun somehow. Though he`s making me a little nervous sometimes the way he pays so much attention to me or how he is looking (well staring really) at me. Last time he managed to never even taking his eyes off me, EVEN when talking to another person. I am not quite sure what is so interesting about me, but oh well. Maybe he is also trying to figure out into what category to put me.
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moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 2286 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 11, 2016 05:59 AM
Oh goodness! Lol well THAT changes things. Let me know if I can look at another chart(s). I'd be happy too since that one went wrong with the incorrect houses. Which house system do you usually use? Ceri when you started looking into harmonics, did you start out just using the age harmonic as a snapshot for the year? I was moving through each month of the year using solar fire & that was pretty cool too, showing how the harmonic evolves over time IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26910 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 11, 2016 06:08 AM
Well, I did look at the Age harmonic for each year, yes, and that was giving a good snapshot for the year in advance. I am using Placidus/topocentric usually. Funny story, I once was doing a chart with both options, Placidus OR equal, born for someone in Northern Sweden, with RIDICULOUS houses in terms of width. I was so sure she would say the equal interpretation was fitting. Well it was okay, not wrong, but the one that really hooked into her life was the one I had done with Placidus. And I had done that even BEFORE we became friends really. So that sealed the deal for me, still not content with the timebased systems that will ALL break down during certain times at the polar circle though. But for now I am using Placidus (also because Koch apparently uses a wrong calculation of intermediate cusps, has something to do with the arithmetic I can`t quite follow, besides Koch houses also break down at northern latitudes). I am not done with my august harmonics though, I will reupload them.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26910 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 11, 2016 06:25 AM
Well this is my natal chart with my yearly Age harmonic for this year (and his natal chart in the outer ring)I find it interesting that some of the yearly overlays are being repeated, or triggered next month [/URL] <
his natal with his year harmonic and my natal in the outer ring [/URL]
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26910 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 11, 2016 06:37 AM
This is my DAH chart with the right housesedia/DAH%20Ceri%20aug_zps5vtqobj8.jpg.html] [/URL] Personally two things stick out to me
° Tr Node on my DAH Uranus on HIS n Mars-Jupiter on my AH Venus, opposing my DAH VEnus on my n Jupiter-Ceres ° Tr Moon-Saturn on my AH Vertex on my DAH Moon on my natal Node-Neptune on HIS n mercury and AH Sun and DAH DESC (If I remember it right) funny enough last year on another gathering there was also a transiting Moon-Saturn-conjunction.
his DAH for the day
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moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 2286 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 11, 2016 02:04 PM
Okay, Ceri - I am at work but will take a look at them later! PS - do you exclusively use Placidus? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26910 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 11, 2016 02:06 PM
Yes, I do. And thank you. I have to give it a closer look myself, too. I guess with so much information I might start with the Transits and what is triggered that day all across the charts. might reduce the overflow of information. IP: Logged |
moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 2286 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 11, 2016 02:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Yes, I do. And thank you. I have to give it a closer look myself, too. I guess with so much information I might start with the Transits and what is triggered that day all across the charts. might reduce the overflow of information.
Yeah, the tri-wheel kinda overwhelms me, lol but I can put the data in solar fire using placidus I use whole sign but I also use Placidus...still experimenting w/what works
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 26910 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 11, 2016 02:56 PM
I uploaded the synastries. his DAH - my DAH
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posted July 11, 2016 03:00 PM
His natal - my DAH [/URL] my natal - his DAH [/URL]
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