posted December 17, 2013 12:57 PM              

I think POF aspects will tend to generate a Jupiter-like vibe between two people, each would feel that the other brings them luck, happiness, and joy.

EDIT
Now that I think about it, it does make sense in my case.
The person whose POF conjuncts my Chiron has had a very beneficial influence towards me in regards to purging and healing old wounds/patterns...

Though I have no idea how my POF on his Venus would influence him... Maybe I'll bring him some kind of beneficial fortune through work, as we are both into the same field (asthetics, art, healing, beauty)... I'll let you know how this plays out LOL

posted July 17, 2016 09:22 PM            

It is, after all, the combination of the Sun, Moon and Ascendant. I have been writing about it lately and will share some of my findings soon.

posted July 18, 2016 06:14 AM              

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:

It is, after all, the combination of the Sun, Moon and Ascendant. I have been writing about it lately and will share some of my findings soon.

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posted July 18, 2016 06:44 AM              

POF 15 Libra in 10th house
opposite DESC/BML 0°05
square Mars/BML 1°00

Mr Sag has

POF 27°12 Pisces (on his ASC as he is a New-Moon-baby)

opp. Saturn/Vertex 0°23
opp. Sun/IC 0°24
opposite Pluto/Node 0°49
opposite Saturn/DESC 1°05
square Ceres/BML 0°20
suqare Sun/Moon 0°36

our composite:

POF 6 Cap (on my n Venus)
conjunct Sun/Venus 0°17
conjunct Node/Ceres 0°31
opp. Saturn/Juno 0°32
opp. Jupiter/DESC 0°32

our Davison:

POF 20 Sagittarius

opp. Moon / IC 0°32
opp. Sun/Mercury 0°38
(opp. Sun/Jupiter 1°54)
square Sun/Neptune 0°36

As you can see it brings our Mercury-Jupiter-Neptune into a relationship with Sun, Moon and IC.

Sun, Moon and IC are not aspecting each other (though Moon is parallel IC and okay widely sextile).

posted July 18, 2016 08:16 AM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
POF seems hugely important in synastry and composite... I never was certain about it, but having been looking into it it's now one of the primary things I'm looking at.

It is, after all, the combination of the Sun, Moon and Ascendant. I have been writing about it lately and will share some of my findings soon.

I find it absolutely fascinating to see which midpoints in a natal chart are closest to the Part of Fortune. It just speaks volumes about that person's attitude to abundance, to the natural fruits of integration of the primary facets of the self...

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posted July 19, 2016 02:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Which formula do you use? Do you make the distinction between night and day births or just use the day formula for all?

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Well I'm no expert yet... I use the default solarfire POF for all.. maybe it defaults to the day formula?

posted July 19, 2016 05:25 PM              

However if you never changed it it will be day/night.

Seems Cochrane finds this correct, too. So I will stick to it.
(the other calculation gives us the Part of Spirit anyway).

So I am going to go with my POF on 15 Libra in my 10th house, 2 degrees off my Aphrodite. lol

Even though it does not aspect anything tightly in Mr Sag`s chart (except conjunct his Jupiter/Uranus-mp 0°56).

Interestingly though it DOES conjunct our composite Pluto with 36 minutes of orb, and opposes my name in the composite.

posted July 19, 2016 09:36 PM            

I finally got it together and rented out my family cabin and also sold my truck and camper. I made more money in 4 days than I have in 5 years!

posted July 19, 2016 09:52 PM            

POF 15 Libra in 10th house opposite DESC/BML 0°05
square Mars/BML 1°00"

Can't be in your 10th opposite your desc or are you just checking to see if we're paying attention?

I have MARS opposite True Lilith t square with Saturn... so cool that your POF is participating with your MARS Lilith. Pretty badass.

"Mr Sag has

POF 27°12 Pisces (on his ASC as he is a New-Moon-baby)

opp. Saturn/Vertex 0°23
opp. Sun/IC 0°24
opposite Pluto/Node 0°49
opposite Saturn/DESC 1°05
square Ceres/BML 0°20
suqare Sun/Moon 0°36"

A powerhouse. Holy. No wonder he attracts the masses like honey and flies and such.. and then there's you... totally concentrating the Mars Lilith so intensely!!! Depending on whether we have the right formula... But yeah that's very potent I think. I wish my POF were playing nice with my Mars Lilith!

what I've been doing lately is checking the tightest midpoints around the POF too... been using the 45 degree modulus and that is right for me right now for sure. It's incredible what this simple delineation can tell us about a person... tightest midpoints with the 45 degree modulus. For now

"Our composite:

POF 6 Cap (on my n Venus)"

yeah yeah not surprised! The relationship flourishes on your love and appreciation and beauty...

"Conjunct Sun/Venus 0°17"

See and this is what I mean.... it tends to be prominent and unmistakably so when you delve into midpoints. You two really benefit by enjoying lavish art and identifying with something beautiful and valuable... for us it's Davison POF conjunct Amor and square Sun Moon midpoint.

"Node/Ceres 0°31
opp. Saturn/Juno 0°32
opp. Jupiter/DESC 0°32

our Davison:

POF 20 Sagittarius

opp. Moon / IC 0°32
opp. Sun/Mercury 0°38
(opp. Sun/Jupiter 1°54)
square Sun/Neptune 0°36

As you can see it brings our Mercury-Jupiter-Neptune into a relationship with Sun, Moon and IC.

Sun, Moon and IC are not aspecting each other (though Moon is parallel IC and okay widely sextile)."

what's the Sun Moon midpoint up to in.the Davison?

Have you used the progressed Sun/moon midpoint as a timer much? I've been watching it transit over midpoints in my own chart and the accuracy as it comes to the exact degree (45 degree modulus again) is kind of spooky and staggering.going to watch it for longer but it is almost like you can read the midpoints like a linear storybook and watch the sun/moon midpoint tip things off...

posted July 19, 2016 10:01 PM            

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Originally posted by manderin:
I haven't noticed anything of note occuring when aspects of any kind are made with the POF in Synastry. So I personally don't believe it's special at all. It's just a weird mathmatical spot in the sky that some jerk-off decided to add up and call "lucky" despite the lack of evidence.

Hey, maybe I'm wrong. But that's my take on it for whatever it's worth.

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You maaay need to look at midpoints to really get it. You also need to look at relationships which actually benefited the parties... especially materially... somehow. not all do. Doesn't have to be money but I've noticed... as I said that money, given it's present status as a unit measuring wealth and accomplishment and freedom and the ability to amass goods.. is one distinct manifestation of a particularly well aspected POF.

and yeah no the POF isn't made up....or if some crackpot made it.up they spent a much longer time thinking about it than you seem to have. I understand your perspective but it's kind of immature, in the sense that it seems you might not have been watching it closely enough to really sense how it works...

It's a synthesis of the ascendant Sun and moon and is such a very powerful attractor of the specific material and worldly goods which we need to feel whole and integrated...

posted July 20, 2016 05:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
I'm also curious about this, I have a POF–Venus conjunction and POF–Chiron conjunction in my synastry with someone.

I think POF aspects will tend to generate a Jupiter-like vibe between two people, each would feel that the other brings them luck, happiness, and joy.

EDIT
Now that I think about it, it does make sense in my case.
The person whose POF conjuncts my Chiron has had a very beneficial influence towards me in regards to purging and healing old wounds/patterns...

Though I have no idea how my POF on his Venus would influence him... Maybe I'll bring him some kind of beneficial fortune through work, as we are both into the same field (asthetics, art, healing, beauty)... I'll let you know how this plays out LOL

How do you feel as the POF person being conjunct his Venus?
Do you bring him some sort of Venusian luck/fortune?

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I have a Pisces POF and DSC right on husband's Pisces Venus and ASC. I know for a fact I have brought him a sense of better self-worth along with better success with his company which I now co-own.

posted July 20, 2016 08:19 AM              

just came from the dentist, so only time for one short HAHA.

You were NOT paying attention after all! I caught ya!

OF COURSE I was speaking about the BML/DESC-MIDPOINT, which is at 15°45 Aries, hence opposite the POF by 5 minutes.

I guess I better simply accept it my relationships (if I ever have one) are MEANT to break some sort of boundaries or taboos or being just "out of the ordinary".

Interestingly enough my Draco Sun is at 15°46 Aries. (and Mr Sag Draco BML is at 16°39 Aries)

posted July 20, 2016 08:56 AM              

"what's the Sun Moon midpoint up to in.the Davison?"

9°08 Cancer.
Not doing that much really.

widely square Pluto on 11 Libra

Well if I were treating it as a POINT, it is near these midpoints

Venus/BML 0°09 (45)
Sun/Node 0°33 (45)

"Have you used the progressed Sun/moon midpoint as a timer much?"
No not yet.

However I noticed a bit ago, that Mr Sag had pr Sun/Moon-mp conjunct pr Ceri in his own chart on 21°49 Pisces
This was exact on 24th june.

I also noticed that our pr composite Sun/Moon-mp is at 19°38 Aries, just separating from the pr composite Node on 18°58 Libra and applying to n composite Node on 20°46 Libra, and hence also the conjunction of Amor-Cupido right on 20 Libra, and then a weeks after that hitting composite Mars on 23 Libra and even before composite Moon on 22°52 Cap.

but other than that I have not traced it so far.

BTW my own pr Sun/Moon-mp is currently at 16°55 Scorpio square n Moon on 17°06 Aqua and applying to conjunct pr MC on 18°00 Scorpio, which is again conjunct composite MC on 16°36 Scorpio and Davison MC on 18°47 Scorpio

his pr Sun/Moon-mp as of now on 22°20 Pisces applying to conjunct pr composite ASC on 23°50 Pisces.

I wonder how close this is going to be next month when we are going to meet. Not exact certainly, but pr Moon is rather quick, (mental note to check later)

"I've been watching it transit over midpoints in my own chart and the accuracy as it comes to the exact degree (45 degree modulus again) is kind of spooky"
so the progressed Sun/Moon-mp to your natal midpoints, exact orb, 45 degree modulus?

Well let`s see so

So at the "Get-together" my pr Sun/Moon: 17°26 Scorpio:

my Mercury/Pluto 0°23 (00) s
my Sun/Pluto 0°04 (00) a

his Sun/Ceres 0°26 (90) s
his Ceres/IC 0°13 (00) a
his Mercury/Venus 0°13 (45) a
his Vertex / Ceres 0°19 (45) a

(his Venus/jupiter 0°36 (00) a
his Venus/Mars 1°04 (00) a - too wide yet, but still found it too nice not to mention.)

his pr Sun/Moon 22°48 Pisces

his Saturn/BML 0°26 (00) s
his Uranus/Pluto 0°25) 45) s
his Sun/BML 0°19 (45) s
his BML / POF 0°09 (90) a
his Neptune/ASC 0°11 (45) a
his MC/BML 0°21 (45) a
his Vertex/BML 0°27 (00) a
his Moon/BML 0°32 (45) a

my Ceres/IC 0°31 (00) s
my Neptune/MC 0°21 (45) s
my MC/NOde 0°15 (45) s
my Venus/Ceres 0°04 (45) a
my Vertex/BML 0°10 (45) a
my Venus/Neptune 0°14 (90) a
my Pluto/ASC 0°14 (45) a
my Jupiter/IC 0°17 (00) a
my Venus/node 0°20 (90) a

posted July 20, 2016 08:57 AM              

I also found that an interesting read
http://marianneohagan.com/astrology/part-of-fortune/

posted July 20, 2016 09:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yun,

just came from the dentist, so only time for one short HAHA.

You were NOT paying attention after all! I caught ya!

OF COURSE I was speaking about the BML/DESC-MIDPOINT, which is at 15°45 Aries, hence opposite the POF by 5 minutes.

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I guess I better simply accept it my relationships (if I ever have one) are MEANT to break some sort of boundaries or taboos or being just "out of the ordinary".

Interestingly enough my Draco Sun is at 15°46 Aries. (and Mr Sag Draco BML is at 16°39 Aries)

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posted July 20, 2016 09:55 AM            

I wonder how close this is going to be next month when we are going to meet. Not exact certainly, but pr Moon is rather quick, (mental note to check later)"

Could be pretty close! That seems quite significant... likely he'll feel very much at his ease being in your , or with the whole notion and environment and aura surrounding the relationship at that time.. is this the fun fan friends meeting?