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Lucia23
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posted July 29, 2016 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any other 7th house Saturns here? Or is anyone married to a 7th house Saturn?

How true has the prediction, "7th house Saturns marry later in life" been for you?

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posted July 29, 2016 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First define "later in life"

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posted July 29, 2016 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW Jude Law has Saturn in 7th house (conjunct DESC). I think he was in his 20`s when he got married (granted it did not work out)

my best friend`s husband has Saturn in 7th house (intercepted), closely opposing Mercury in 1st and square Uranus (6 degree orb) in 9th.

They got married when he was 28 (and are still happily married 12 years later).


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posted July 29, 2016 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
First define "later in life"

That's part of the problem with that whole Saturn in the 7th myth/idea---I think "later in life" varies so much by culture, era in history, etc.

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posted July 29, 2016 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
exactly

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posted July 29, 2016 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it's that simple. I agree that "later in life" can have so many meanings...

To some that might be in their 40's or beyond, and to others in their 30's. It's very subjective.

I don't rely on that interpretation as much as others which say marriage is taken very seriously (which could in turn delay or deny it). They aren't the types to marry on a whim and see the real practicality in it.

Also, the 7th house being the house of the "other" can mean what is projected onto the other person or is desired in a partner, so someone with Saturnian (Capricorn) traits.

For example, my partner is 34 and he has never been married. He has Saturn in the 7th. I have Capricorn Mars, Venus trine Saturn exact and Saturn conjunct Juno exact so I am somewhat Saturnian myself plus we have that mutual "Saturn in 7th" reception since Venus/Saturn and Juno/Saturn can be interpreted in similar ways.

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posted July 29, 2016 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm scared I will never get married.

That is, I'm scared I won't ever want to marry someone who also wants to marry me.

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posted July 29, 2016 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucia, perhaps in your case your Saturn isn't signifying a delayed marriage, but maybe the type of partner you would need to truly flourish under? Someone demure, steady, Saturnine?

I noticed your last partner had quite a bit of fire (Leo/Aries blend?), which is the antithesis of Earth. He seemed very immature in comparison to your emotional and spiritual growth, and what he lacked in stability, he excelled in excitement, bravado, and maybe social grace?

So maybe your 7H Saturn is saying that despite the lack of fireworks/bells and whistles, an older and/or more grounded partner would do the trick for you?

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posted July 29, 2016 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenaia:
Lucia, perhaps in your case your Saturn isn't signifying a delayed marriage, but maybe the type of partner you would need to truly flourish under? Someone demure, steady, Saturnine?

I noticed your last partner had quite a bit of fire (Leo/Aries blend?), which is the antithesis of Earth. He seemed very immature in comparison to your emotional and spiritual growth, and what he lacked in stability, he excelled in excitement, bravado, and maybe social grace?

So maybe your 7H Saturn is saying that despite the lack of fireworks/bells and whistles, an older and/or more grounded partner would do the trick for you?


Yes. He's the only partner I've had who was younger than I am. My longest relationship (14 years) was with someone my age (well, 2 yrs older)---both of these men had earth in their charts, but other than Saturn (in the case of my most recent ex) and Saturn/ASC in the long term relationship, they had no water.

My 7th house Moon, Saturn and Venus are in Cancer, Jupiter in Pisces--so I actually really need a guy with water. And I've never been with one!

Most recent ex is Aries/Sag blend with Cap rising, Taurus Venus. 14-yr relationship was Libra, Gem Moon, Leo Venus, Virgo Mars and Scorpio Rising. With my Cancer stellium, I need a guy I can feel very emotionally secure with.

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posted July 29, 2016 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With t.Pluto opposite your 7H stellium, there's no better time than now to transform your itinerary of needs for your ideal relationship! With Pluto coursing through your 1st house, above all, he is challenging your presentation of self. This transit is meant to crumble all preconceived notions of what made you "You" before this transit.

After that's complete and your regenerate into the You you need to be, your Plutonic love (7H transit opposition) will certainly waltz into your life when you least suspect it. With a Cancer stellium and a Cap rising, water would be great to soothe out your chart with trines and sextiles. Even someone with Earth/Water planets in fire houses might be the best bet for you.

Uranus is also trining all of your Leo planets right now - so altering the course of your psychological landscape is the name of the game at this point in your life. With the ruler of your ASC in the 7th, you're someone that comes alive when with the right romantic partner. I think anything that positively aspects your 7th stellium will be the boost you need to get out of the funk your last partner left you in.

So 7H Saturn may mean "delays" in a lot of ways.. the way I see it, Saturn wants you to constantly rework the blueprints of what a healthy relationship means to you. Once Saturn deems the work has been put in, then the reward comes Think about everything that draws you to a partner, then make a list of the pros and cons when you think about how these behaviors manifest years down the line. Think about the roles you always slip into when in your relationships - or the roles they play for you. I bet meditation would be awesome for you right now, too.

With Saturn on your NN (life's purpose), I imagine that this has been a particularly dour time. Adventures have come to a halt, old philosophies have been crushed, and maybe there's been disillusionment about past mentors. It can be a very "dark night of the soul" kind of transit, but there's much light AND power to be found in both Saturn and NN when they're mastered. Maybe you've been able to see who has truly been on your side in your friends group versus those who are only present when good times can be had. While this is ridiculously painful, it's also important to know who has authenticity in your close circle. Energy vampires are a real thing, and in moments of such vulnerability, they can have disastrous consequences on the psyche. Consider this time of relative "isolation" to be a blessing, because you'll come out of this transit with stronger boundaries than ever before.

t.Uranus conjunct n.Chiron.. old childhood insecurities popping up might be the theme here. The time to conquer a lot of dark habits is now. Out of nowhere you might get weird flashbacks to old moments where you were hurt by someone years ago that you COMPLETELY forgot about until just this moment. Seemingly "petty" instances in retrospect. This is the transits way of letting you know that something lurks deep inside your subconscious that still controls you through fear. With Saturn about to head into your 12th house by the end of the year, you'll be able to dig it up. You can't be afraid because these experiences ARE you and MADE you who you are. Tackling them will only build your strength and make you impenetrable to outside manipulation and fear tactics. You'll realize that many people in your life try to control you through these fears they can feel through the cracks of your energy, and you'll have the strength to ice them out of your life with the new foresight.

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posted July 29, 2016 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lucia23:
I'm scared I will never get married.

That is, I'm scared I won't ever want to marry someone who also wants to marry me.


I have Venus conjunct Saturn, so I think it's similar.

I'm also scared I won't ever find anyone. I'll be 36 this year.

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posted July 29, 2016 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Athenaia, thank you, all of that 100% accurate.

re old childhood insecurities coming up with tUranus on my Chiron (and, I should add, opposite my Uranus, square my Cancer Venus!!)---it's actually been as if I was sent back into a horrible old nightmare and can't wake up. Everything HORRIBLE from my life when I two has resurfaced, because my daughter is two and her parents are splitting up just like mine did....and everything horrible from my life when I was 9-11, which was my worst awkward stage. (My teens, 20s and thirties had their ups and downs, but were pretty good overall.)

I'm scared about new relationships with men not my child's father, because my mother remarried and I had to grow up with a ****** stepfather.

I feel like I have less to offer a partner than I had before my daughter's dad treated me wrong, and also less to offer my daughter, which is the saddest! I wish she'd known the LEO me of 5 years ago! But I have a very clear idea of the kind of person I would want to be with now.

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posted July 29, 2016 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@athenaia, on an up note, I've been meditating regularly!!! And recently, I've felt some things shifting.

@Koniucha, you seem a lot more mature than I am (in a good way!), though 5 yrs younger---less of a whiner! Hard to imagine someone like you wouldn't find a great partner. It's extra hard, though, isn't it, with a daughter--because the partner will be in a father role to her.

an older partner sounds pretty appealing to me, especially a really mature partner! Not, like, an 80-yr-old, but a really mature 52-year-old with his moon on my Jupiter.

One way these transits have hit is that I've regressed and I want someone to take care of me.

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posted July 29, 2016 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My brother has Saturn conjunct his Descendant. He got married to his high school sweetheart and was with her for about 2 decades, I believe. He got married again not long after he divorced her.

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posted August 01, 2016 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The natal chart is the "modus operandi". So there is indeed a tendency for one with this placement to "close off" interactions either consciously or subconsciously.

It could be the way they act towards others is "back off"(Saturn conjunct 7th). Or it may be in the way they present themselves or look(Saturn opposite Asc) i.e legs crossed, statuesque,icy serious face or not talking to anyone that makes them seem very difficult to approach.

Saturn on the 7th house suggests one who has a very stringent view(Saturn) of how people should conduct themselves in social situations(7th)

Many say that Saturn in 7th has some fears with regards to people. This may be true in some instances. But I have observed something different.

There is a tendency for these people to think themselves intellectually superior or more mature than most(Saturn brings with it Aquarius energy too). And thus think most people just will not "get" them, so they don't even try.

Most look at what's around them(available) roll their eyes and say,"I would rather be single than get involved with such idiots". And many really stick to that.

Saturn tends to "sober" up the individual with regards to the issues of the house that it is placed in.

So when placed in the 7th, the "frivolity" that this house is often associated with is done away with to reveal "what is"

And this "what is" is the harsh possibility that much to many people's surprise, being married or having many friends is no answer to the loneliness that comes from within.

This Saturn in 7th knows instinctively. And so doesn't get the hype that is around marriage and having an active social life.

Most 7th house Saturn people are searching for authenticity. And lets face it folks, many of us don't feel that much comfortable about being our "true selves" until older.

And that is the only times that we find real love,real partnership, real commitment and real companionship. Because we are then ready to really commit ourselves to things that are worthwhile to commit to.

Saturn in 7th house people are born knowing this and many wait for the rest of us to come to the same knowledge of that too


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posted August 01, 2016 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
The natal chart is the "modus operandi". So there is indeed a tendency for one with this placement to "close off" interactions either consciously or subconsciously.

It could be the way they act towards others is "back off"(Saturn conjunct 7th). Or it may be in the way they present themselves or look(Saturn opposite Asc) i.e legs crossed, statuesque,icy serious face or not talking to anyone that makes them seem very difficult to approach.

Saturn on the 7th house suggests one who has a very stringent view(Saturn) of how people should conduct themselves in social situations(7th)

Many say that Saturn in 7th has some fears with regards to people. This may be true in some instances. But I have observed something different.

There is a tendency for these people to think themselves intellectually superior or more mature than most(Saturn brings with it Aquarius energy too). And thus think most people just will not "get" them, so they don't even try.

Most look at what's around them(available) roll their eyes and say,"I would rather be single than get involved with such idiots". And many really stick to that.

Saturn tends to "sober" up the individual with regards to the issues of the house that it is placed in.

So when placed in the 7th, the "frivolity" that this house is often associated with is done away with to reveal "what is"

And this "what is" is the harsh possibility that much to many people's surprise, being married or having many friends is no answer to the loneliness that comes from within.

This Saturn in 7th knows instinctively. And so doesn't get the hype that is around marriage and having an active social life.

Most 7th house Saturn people are searching for authenticity. And lets face it folks, many of us don't feel that much comfortable about being our "true selves" until older.

And that is the only times that we find real love,real partnership, real commitment and real companionship. Because we are then ready to really commit ourselves to things that are worthwhile to commit to.

Saturn in 7th house people are born knowing this and many wait for the rest of us to come to the same knowledge of that too


Wow... That is right on. Definitely what I've come to realize and goes beyond the cookie-cutter Saturn in 7th descriptions...

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posted August 02, 2016 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn in the 7th. Never had a committed relationship, relationship phobia until now.

I have 3 friends with Saturn in the 7th.

A - aged 42 / get married before Saturn return, divorced right after that... Aferwards she had many committed relationships but no marriage - it was mostly due to her unwillingness..

B aged 48 / never had a proper relationship.. She wanted but it just did not happen

C aged 47 / she get married when she was 40.
Still married and has a child...

But it still aspects will define how Saturn in the 7th will play out in your life..

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posted August 02, 2016 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since my Moon and Venus are in 7h with the Saturn, and I have Moon-Saturn conjunction natally, it's like all of my expressions of my Moon are painful and restricted.

But I do think I would have married and divorced young like your friend, if I were a more traditional person or my family/culture was more traditional--the cohabiting relationship I had from 18-32 was on-again, off-again for two years, but after that was very much like a marriage.

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posted August 02, 2016 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sis:
I have Saturn in the 7th. Never had a committed relationship, relationship phobia until now.

I have 3 friends with Saturn in the 7th.

A - aged 42 / get married before Saturn return, divorced right after that... Aferwards she had many committed relationships but no marriage - it was mostly due to her unwillingness..

B aged 48 / never had a proper relationship.. She wanted but it just did not happen

C aged 47 / she get married when she was 40.
Still married and has a child...

But it still aspects will define how Saturn in the 7th will play out in your life..


This is richly fascinating to me and i am actually interested in doing some research on the dreaded Saturn in 7th.

I have Saturn conjunct Venus and Saturn in 7th.So for me its a double dose of this energy.

I myself have not been fortunate on the relationship front. And i suspect that i will not be in a decent one until my 40's.

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posted August 03, 2016 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm 37 now and don't see myself married until 40+ either. Having said that, I believe if I did get married earlier, I would probably have a divorce under my belt as well.

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posted August 03, 2016 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loveher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know women who have saturn in 7th hosie or aspect 7th house they got marrid late or they got divorced

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posted August 05, 2016 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianAries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Saturn is not in the seventh,but in the fifth.My seventh house cusp is Aquarius. Both rulers are in conjunction in 5th house Saggitarius and both are retro. I have been told by an astrologer that I would marry after 35.

Another one said between 30-35 (vedic) And my current relationship would end in 2020. How nice.

Edit: I am 29 years old now.

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