posted August 16, 2016 05:02 PM            

However if you put up a natal chart Ebertin style, and then call up the pdf with the data, you will find the midpoints listed.

then you check the other chart and check for planets that are conjunct, square, opposite the first chart`s midpoints within 1°-1°30 at most.

posted August 16, 2016 05:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, it isn`t.
There are no midpoint-charts on astro.com.

However if you put up a natal chart Ebertin style, and then call up the pdf with the data, you will find the midpoints listed.

then you check the other chart and check for planets that are conjunct, square, opposite the first chart`s midpoints within 1°-1°30 at most.

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posted August 16, 2016 06:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, you need to pull up the pdf with the additional tables.

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posted August 16, 2016 07:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
You have to exclude any planetary pairings for him, that contain Moon, ASC or MC.

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posted August 17, 2016 04:22 AM            

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Originally posted by ShineYourLight:
You can also go to Pullen/Astrolog on the astro.com methods menu, and choose Aspect/Midpoint Grid Chart!
I find that way easier to look at + you can change between charts more easily.

Hope that helps!

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posted August 17, 2016 05:26 AM            

As for the first table you posted (I am familiar with Ebertin`s chart, so will address this one).

You print out both data-sheets.
Then you check where the planets fall in one sheet, and check if there is a midpoint/ combination of two planets at the same degree, opposite or square in the other.

Example:

his Mars (and Pluto) on 6°24 Libra
(wow, he has a precise Mars-Pluto-conjunction? intense!)

your Venus/Jupiter 5°28 Aries

that means his Mars would be opposite your Venus/Jupiter-mp by 0°56, this is within orb, and also a direct midpoint (direct midpoint means, a planet is conjunct or opposite a midpoint; indirect midpoints would be if the planet was square a midpoint).

his Mars also opposes your Mercury/Venus-mp within tight orb

The meaning of this is that he activates the Mercury/Venus and Venus/Jupiter-combo in you. Usually they lie dormant in your chart as midpoints do, unless tied to a natal planet. But his Mars "wakes" it up, especially the Venus/Jupiter.
In relation to him, and especially when he is expressing his masculinity or assert himself or just basically expressing his Mars, you feel as if you have a Venus-Jupiter-conjunction.
Or with other words he incites very enthusiastic romantic feelings in you, basically a "feeling good" vibration - though this is just one aspects, so of course others might modify that feeling and bring more somberness at other places.

But this Mars = Venus/Jupiter is just a really nice romantic and also sexually attractive combo.

As for Mercury/Venus it is interesting that you have yourself a planet aspecting this, as your Neptune squares Mercury/Venus in your natal.

While this is very poetic and artistic and sensitive, it also can bring some confusion and lack of clarity for you.Your way to communicate might sometimes lack that claritiy.

Now it also means of course that your Neptune squares his Mars, which might drive him bonkers at times. A very seductive and tantalizing aspects, but at the same time you might seem somehow elusive to him, or he feels like he just can`t "grasp" or understand you. Things are a bit too foggy for his Mars-Pluto, that would prefer things to be very clear, here-and-now-, hands-on, intense, and less mystical-romantic-poetic-lyrical.

He has himself his Mercury/Venus-mp there conjunct his Mars and Pluto, which is interesting.

First of all there are differences in communicating, but ultimately you activate Mercury/Venus in each other, just doing it in different ways (you through Neptune, him through Mars-Pluto).

Nevertheless Mercury/Venus is about friendliness, a playful communication (well maybe not so much with his Pluto, this might make things feel more intense and deep), and a certain flirtative vibration, especially with his Mars activating both your Mercury/Venus.

The aspects that you see in the first table like in your table

Mercury conjunct Sun/Venus

means that your own Mercury occupies the exact same spot as your Sun/Venus-midpoint.

The 90° wheel is a simplification to make it possible to see what is conjunct, opposite, square on one glance (though you won`t know from looking at it which of these aspects applies).

Cardinal signs are placed on 00°-30°
fixed signs on 30°-60°
mutable signs on 60°-90°

Which means that a planet on 15° Aries, 15° Cancer or 15° Libra or 15° Capricorn, would be placed onto 15° of that 90° wheel (no distinction made between the actual cardinal sign).

A planet on 5° Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius or Pisces, would be placed onto 65°.
(as the area for mutables start at 60° and 60° + 5° is 65°) and so on.

I usually prefer the first table though, as I think that direct midpoints (conjunction and opposition) are more important than indirect ones, even though we cannot underestimate the square, and some swear semisquare and sesisquare work as well.
Though other astrologers, if doing midpoint work, would only use the direct ones.

It`s a bit a matter of your observation, experiences.

While indirect ones work, I pay more attention to direct ones also because they happen often as a result of aspect patterns.

Example

A Grand trine of
Sun 25 Cancer
Mars 25 Scorpio
Chiron 25 Pisces
(as we had some time ago)

it means that each is on the far midpoint of the other two planets

Sun/Mars 25 Virgo (opp. Chiron)
Sun/Chiron 25 Taurus (opp. Mars)
Mars/Chiron 25 Cap (opp. Sun).

I understand however that this is a lot to take in. And first priority need to be a good grasp of how to interprete major aspects and combination of planets.

here is a link you could look into
http://hniizato.com/midpoints-in-astrology/

posted August 17, 2016 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am not sure what you mean, with planets making aspects (planets always make aspects to each other, at least when in specific distance of each other, like being 120° apart, they would be trine, but you know that).

As for the first table you posted (I am familiar with Ebertin`s chart, so will address this one).

You print out both data-sheets.
Then you check where the planets fall in one sheet, and check if there is a midpoint/ combination of two planets at the same degree, opposite or square in the other.

Example:

his Mars (and Pluto) on 6°24 Libra
(wow, he has a precise Mars-Pluto-conjunction? intense!)

your Venus/Jupiter 5°28 Aries

that means his Mars would be opposite your Venus/Jupiter-mp by 0°56, this is within orb, and also a direct midpoint (direct midpoint means, a planet is conjunct or opposite a midpoint; indirect midpoints would be if the planet was square a midpoint).

his Mars also opposes your Mercury/Venus-mp within tight orb

The meaning of this is that he activates the Mercury/Venus and Venus/Jupiter-combo in you. Usually they lie dormant in your chart as midpoints do, unless tied to a natal planet. But his Mars "wakes" it up, especially the Venus/Jupiter.
[b]In relation to him, and especially when he is expressing his masculinity or assert himself or just basically expressing his Mars, you feel as if you have a Venus-Jupiter-conjunction.
Or with other words he incites very enthusiastic romantic feelings in you, basically a "feeling good" vibration - though this is just one aspects, so of course others might modify that feeling and bring more somberness at other places.

But this Mars = Venus/Jupiter is just a really nice romantic and also sexually attractive combo.

As for Mercury/Venus it is interesting that you have yourself a planet aspecting this, as your Neptune squares Mercury/Venus in your natal.

While this is very poetic and artistic and sensitive, it also can bring some confusion and lack of clarity for you.Your way to communicate might sometimes lack that claritiy.

Now it also means of course that your Neptune squares his Mars, which might drive him bonkers at times. A very seductive and tantalizing aspects, but at the same time you might seem somehow elusive to him, or he feels like he just can`t "grasp" or understand you. Things are a bit too foggy for his Mars-Pluto, that would prefer things to be very clear, here-and-now-, hands-on, intense, and less mystical-romantic-poetic-lyrical.

He has himself his Mercury/Venus-mp there conjunct his Mars and Pluto, which is interesting.

First of all there are differences in communicating, but ultimately you activate Mercury/Venus in each other, just doing it in different ways (you through Neptune, him through Mars-Pluto).

Nevertheless Mercury/Venus is about friendliness, a playful communication (well maybe not so much with his Pluto, this might make things feel more intense and deep), and a certain flirtative vibration, especially with his Mars activating both your Mercury/Venus.

The aspects that you see in the first table like in your table

Mercury conjunct Sun/Venus

means that your own Mercury occupies the exact same spot as your Sun/Venus-midpoint.

The 90° wheel is a simplification to make it possible to see what is conjunct, opposite, square on one glance (though you won`t know from looking at it which of these aspects applies).

Cardinal signs are placed on 00°-30°
fixed signs on 30°-60°
mutable signs on 60°-90°

Which means that a planet on 15° Aries, 15° Cancer or 15° Libra or 15° Capricorn, would be placed onto 15° of that 90° wheel (no distinction made between the actual cardinal sign).

A planet on 5° Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius or Pisces, would be placed onto 65°.
(as the area for mutables start at 60° and 60° + 5° is 65°) and so on.

I usually prefer the first table though, as I think that direct midpoints (conjunction and opposition) are more important than indirect ones, even though we cannot underestimate the square, and some swear semisquare and sesisquare work as well.
Though other astrologers, if doing midpoint work, would only use the direct ones.

It`s a bit a matter of your observation, experiences.

While indirect ones work, I pay more attention to direct ones also because they happen often as a result of aspect patterns.

Example

A Grand trine of
Sun 25 Cancer
Mars 25 Scorpio
Chiron 25 Pisces
(as we had some time ago)

it means that each is on the far midpoint of the other two planets

Sun/Mars 25 Virgo (opp. Chiron)
Sun/Chiron 25 Taurus (opp. Mars)
Mars/Chiron 25 Cap (opp. Sun).

I understand however that this is a lot to take in. And first priority need to be a good grasp of how to interprete major aspects and combination of planets.

here is a link you could look into
http://hniizato.com/midpoints-in-astrology/

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posted August 17, 2016 11:02 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
But I don't have a Venus/Jupiter aspect in my natal chart.

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Everyone has a Venus/Jupiter MIDPOINT in their chart, there is the potential for everyone experiencing Venus-Jupiter in combination but ONLY if someone else`s planet (or a transiting planet) is triggering it.

So in a nutshell you do have a Venus-Jupiter-combination (even though not an aspect) in your chart but ONLY in relation to him.

posted August 17, 2016 11:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Everyone has a Venus/Jupiter MIDPOINT in their chart, there is the potential for everyone experiencing Venus-Jupiter in combination but ONLY if someone else`s planet (or a transiting planet) is triggering it.

So in a nutshell you do have a Venus-Jupiter-combination (even though not an aspect) in your chart but ONLY in relation to him.

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posted August 17, 2016 11:15 AM            

Yes, basically YOU would feel the Venus/Jupiter-stuff.
However he might feel energized when he realizes that he has such an effect on you.

Also if one of your personal planets, ASC or MC is activating romantic midpoints in him, it would point to him being attracted, too.

posted August 17, 2016 12:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
That is a tricky question actually.

Yes, basically YOU would feel the Venus/Jupiter-stuff.
However he might feel energized when he realizes that he has such an effect on you.

Also if one of your personal planets, ASC or MC is activating romantic midpoints in him, it would point to him being attracted, too.

But sometimes a very unbalanced triggering of midpoints, can indeed point to unrequited or onesided and unbalanced attraction-scenarios.

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posted August 17, 2016 12:09 PM            

You are right, I forgot you did not haveh is birthtime, so you must ignore anything to his Moon, ASC, MC.

Romantic midpoints are those that are compromised of planets that could be romantic (like we know that Sun-Venus in aspect can be romantic, and so is the midpoint).

People might consider different things romantic, but IŽd definitely check

posted August 17, 2016 12:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Everything can be a bad thing, but does not have to be. Depends how he expresses the energy.

You are right, I forgot you did not haveh is birthtime, so you must ignore anything to his Moon, ASC, MC.

Romantic midpoints are those that are compromised of planets that could be romantic (like we know that Sun-Venus in aspect can be romantic, and so is the midpoint).

People might consider different things romantic, but IŽd definitely check

Sun/Venus
Moon/Venus
(Mercury/Venus)
Venus/Jupiter
Venus/Neptune
(plus Venus/ASC, Venus/MC, Venus/Node).

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posted August 17, 2016 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I appreciate all of your help I think it's going to take me awhile to understand all this. I'm not sure if I'm reading this right but My Venus is 28 pisces 56 his Venus/Mars 27 Virgo 01 and Sun/Venus 23 Virgo 27.

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I understand that. It`s a lot to take in and process and learn. I am still learning.

Personally I think your Venus is too far from his midpoints, though we could maybe talk about your Venus to his Venus/Mars - might be still subtly resonating.

posted August 17, 2016 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
So if I understand this correctly the Mars conjunct Pluto aspect in his natal chart. Causes me to feel excitement, sexual feelings and attraction towards him?

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