posted August 25, 2016 01:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Bump!

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Aw, thank you Randall! You guys must be really sick of the "interpret my this and that"-requests, though I'm still hoping for some insights! And sorry I was a little vague on the nature of the relationship, I thought it would be interesting to see just how much a progressed composite could reveal!

posted August 25, 2016 11:12 AM            

The nature of the relationship is sexual attraction, public attention and yet emotional needs being meet too (moon on the ascendant). power struggles and competing about who is more successful can happen a lot too with all those pluto squares.

With the big saturn opposition, this can be an one again, off again relationship which sometimes feels too draining and other times very much energetic.

riches can come and go very fast and the couple may not have stable incomes.

I see this as a good composite for a long-term commitment. Marriage can happen within 2 years as it's the degree between mars and venus.

yet I see a grand cross between chiron, sun, saturn and uranus.
what worries me is the chiron square saturn which can bring about painful obstacles and most importantly chiron square sun which usually happens in homosexual composites. It makes the two people as well as the public have constant feeling of something being fundamentally (sun) painful and wrong (chiron) about the relationship.

posted August 25, 2016 11:46 AM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
overall a very public relationship.
either both people have too many people (family, friends, employees, etc) dependent on this relationship or the circumstances makes this relationship be taken out into public and one that many people would talk about or be noisy about. almost like a celebrity relationship.

The nature of the relationship is sexual attraction, public attention and yet emotional needs being meet too (moon on the ascendant). power struggles and competing about who is more successful can happen a lot too with all those pluto squares.

With the big saturn opposition, this can be an one again, off again relationship which sometimes feels too draining and other times very much energetic.

riches can come and go very fast and the couple may not have stable incomes.

I see this as a good composite for a long-term commitment. Marriage can happen within 2 years as it's the degree between mars and venus.

yet I see a grand cross between chiron, sun, saturn and uranus.
what worries me is the chiron square saturn which can bring about painful obstacles and most importantly chiron square sun which usually happens in homosexual composites. It makes the two people as well as the public have constant feeling of something being fundamentally (sun) painful and wrong (chiron) about the relationship.

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Ahh, thank you so much for your interpretation girlwiththerainysoul! I was so happy to see that someone had replied. And you're SO right.

There are both really painful obstacles and while it's not a homosexual relationship, it would if it developed into a public relationship (which I assume it will not) be looked down upon for several reasons (not rightfully so in my opinion, other than the fact that people are orthodox). So the Chiron squares describes the situation clearly. Are those squares insurmountable? Do they usually end up well or in utter disaster?

So about the public nature of the relationship, it's not quite like that, but people would sure talk. Though I can think of a number of reasons for all those planets in the 1st and 10th house.

About the Venus/Mars conjunction, is that a sign of marriage in the progressed composite? Because you said it could speak for marriage in 2 years? Or does it speak more about sexual attraction?

How about the Pluto/Moon conjunction, what is that about? (I'm just asking in general, so you don't have to feel obligated to reply again girlwiththerainysoul).

posted August 25, 2016 12:22 PM            

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Originally posted by thingsgoneby:
Ahh, thank you so much for your interpretation girlwiththerainysoul! I was so happy to see that someone had replied. And you're SO right.

There are both really painful obstacles and while it's not a homosexual relationship, it would if it developed into a public relationship (which I assume it will not) be looked down upon for several reasons (not rightfully so in my opinion, other than the fact that people are orthodox). So the Chiron squares describes the situation clearly. Are those squares insurmountable? Do they usually end up well or in utter disaster?

So about the public nature of the relationship, it's not quite like that, but people would sure talk. Though I can think of a number of reasons for all those planets in the 1st and 10th house.

About the Venus/Mars conjunction, is that a sign of marriage in the progressed composite? Because you said it could speak for marriage in 2 years? Or does it speak more about sexual attraction?

How about the Pluto/Moon conjunction, what is that about? (I'm just asking in general, so you don't have to feel obligated to reply again girlwiththerainysoul).

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your reply. I'd love to hear more interpretations if anyone has anything to add. I'm insatiable

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oh you're very welcome and I am glad to be able to help =) .

on your chiron question, and if it necessarily ends badly, well the answer is no. but in case the two people don't know what's really in this relationship (if they haven't been publicly acknowledged as a couple yet or haven't started living together yet) you as their friend should tell them about this. if it a chiron square saturn/sun in a natal chart, it wouldn't be as worrying as the person has already learned by age how to deal with personal energies and modify his circumstances to some degree, but in a composite chart, it shows aspects that will never really change. So the two people must both realize what exist in this relationship when the two start becoming a one. Yet this is the progressed composite and within years chiron will no longer be squaring sun, so hopefully things can get better then.

the current venus/mars conjunction points out to the sexual attraction being gradually built up, and within two years (as we're looking at the progression chart and progressions are used in predictions) the two may finally truly merge together which can be interpreted as marriage. venus is before mars and it moves faster than mars. if the placements of venus and mars were reversed, I wouldn't make such predictions as with time venus would move even farther.

the pluto moon conjunction tells me that this will be an emotionally enduring relationship. I would have said the same if moon were square pluto (though that plays out differently). this tells me that the female in the relationship has quite a powerful or even controlling character. As venus is placed before mars and is getting closer to it, I would say that the female desires this relationship more than the male. but this isn't something that the male dislikes, as this can be exactly the woman he desires!

you're very welcome

posted August 25, 2016 12:49 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
oh you're very welcome and I am glad to be able to help =) .

on your chiron question, and if it necessarily ends badly, well the answer is no. but in case the two people don't know what's really in this relationship (if they haven't been publicly acknowledged as a couple yet or haven't started living together yet) you as their friend should tell them about this. if it a chiron square saturn/sun in a natal chart, it wouldn't be as worrying as the person has already learned by age how to deal with personal energies and modify his circumstances to some degree, but in a composite chart, it shows aspects that will never really change. So the two people must both realize what exist in this relationship when the two start becoming a one. Yet this is the progressed composite and within years chiron will no longer be squaring sun, so hopefully things can get better then.

the current venus/mars conjunction points out to the sexual attraction being gradually built up, and within two years (as we're looking at the progression chart and progressions are used in predictions) the two may finally truly merge together which can be interpreted as marriage. venus is before mars and it moves faster than mars. if the placements of venus and mars were reversed, I wouldn't make such predictions as with time venus would move even farther.

the pluto moon conjunction tells me that this will be an emotionally enduring relationship. I would have said the same if moon were square pluto (though that plays out differently). this tells me that the female in the relationship has quite a powerful or even controlling character. As venus is placed before mars and is getting closer to it, I would say that the female desires this relationship more than the male. but this isn't something that the male dislikes, as this can be exactly the woman he desires!

you're very welcome

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This is just getting more and more interesting, I'm like a child at Christmas after your interpretations, haha.

I can't wait until Chiron stops squaring Sun. Things hurts and are just overall very complicated.

I'm the female, how did you figure out I'm powerful and controlling *whistles innocently*? Well, actually people find me rather meek, and I am, but I sure have a powerful and controlling side as well, not an overly so, but I am most of the time strongly opinionated and I'm - most often - not the kind of girl who would let a man walk all over me. Though this time I'm not so sure. This thing has taken a toll on me.

You say that "I would say that the female desires this relationship more than the male", is there any way to see what he desires? (You still don't have to feel obligated to answer, I'm already really grateful for your striking interpretations so far).

posted August 25, 2016 01:32 PM            

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Originally posted by thingsgoneby:
This is just getting more and more interesting, I'm like a child at Christmas after your interpretations, haha.

I can't wait until Chiron stops squaring Sun. Things hurts and are just overall very complicated.

I'm the female, how did you figure out I'm powerful and controlling *whistles innocently*? Well, actually people find me rather meek, and I am, but I sure have a powerful and controlling side as well, not an overly so, but I am most of the time strongly opinionated and I'm - most often - not the kind of girl who would let a man walk all over me. Though this time I'm not so sure. This thing has taken a toll on me.

You say that "I would say that the female desires this relationship more than the male", is there any way to see what he desires? (You still don't have to feel obligated to answer, I'm already really grateful for your striking interpretations so far).

Thank you!

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oops! sorry if I accidentally called you controlling . what I meant to say was that the female knows well how to control the situations and this is what can ensure an endearing relationship here.

as for telling what kind of woman he needs and wants, I need to see his natal chart and tell you his aspects. It would also be very good to check your usual composite chart (without progressions) for chiron aspects. if challenging chiron aspects don't exist there, there is no need to worry as with time the square in the progression composite will be no more.

posted August 25, 2016 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
oops! sorry if I accidentally called you controlling . what I meant to say was that the female knows well how to control the situations and this is what can ensure an endearing relationship here.

as for telling what kind of woman he needs and wants, I need to see his natal chart and tell you his aspects. It would also be very good to check your usual composite chart (without progressions) for chiron aspects. if challenging chiron aspects don't exist there, there is no need to worry as with time the square in the progression composite will be no more.

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Haha, well I like the sound of that! So it would be the woman (me) who in some sense would be controlling/steering the relationship? Or maybe, keeping it together would be a better way to put it.

posted August 26, 2016 02:55 PM            

How bad is Chiron/NN in 8th House? and the Saturn/Uranus square?

I wish I was skilled enough to interpret it myself, but I can't manage to do a more in-depth analysis.

posted August 26, 2016 04:53 PM            

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Originally posted by thingsgoneby:
I'll throw some questions out there about the composite! Would it be considered a good or a bad one? Too scattered? What kind of relationship does it look like? Any overall themes?

How bad is Chiron/NN in 8th House? and the Saturn/Uranus square?

I wish I was skilled enough to interpret it myself, but I can't manage to do a more in-depth analysis.

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with all those planets in the 9th house, I would say that this a relationship between two people with very different ideals and perspectives on life. yet with all these "good planets" (venus, jupiter, mercury) you are both interested in one another's outlook on life and are willing to communicate, compromise and respect each other's different moralities. I can guess that your ascendants are square or 3 signs away (one in Leo and the other in Scorpio for instance).

Chiron is very late in the 8th house and it will be considered to be practically in the 9th house. so it contributes even further to what I mentioned above about the 9th house. Although it is also still in the 8th house anyways, and it's opposed to uranus, so anything can happen.

Sun is conjunct mars and this tells me that possibly the male is fueled by the female, and this may be why this relationship is desired by that person (to help him pursue his goals). In case your ascendants are square like I guessed above, this can be confirmed as one's ascendant can fall into the other's 10th house and this shows why the first person can represent potential success for the other.
This is confirmed further with moon in the 2nd which can point to the female being rich or representative of material values for the male.

with pluto in the first, this couple comes across as fierce and one that doesn't allow others meddling into their couple life. This is confirmed by mars on the MC, which tell how this couple have fought and will continue to fight with the world to be together.

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Things I wouldn've liked to be told about if I were you:

- no planets in the 7th house, and the ruler of the 7th (neptune) being apposed to all those planets in the 10th, as well as the sun (the core of the relationship). the relationship itself can feel dreamy and one that sometimes seems on and giving those two in it lots of energy, and other times seeming off and too emotionally draining.

- chiron square saturn, the couple should know that there will always be circumstances that can delay or create problems for them in things like having sex, children, self-expression, and other kinds of fun (saturn in the 5th house), which can slowly begin to give them chronic pains (chiron) if not tear them up at last or lead to cheating (chiron in the 8th representing possible cheating and opposed to uranus which rules divorce)

I would never tell someone if this is a good or bad relationship. I only tell them what's in it once they get into it, and it's up to the two to decide whether they can work out things like chiron square saturn and whether this relationship is even worth it for them.

wish you the best
and feel free to ask other questions :-)

posted August 28, 2016 03:21 PM            

I'm kinda sensing that the Chiron/Uranus/Saturn squares sums this relationship up - doomed i.e. Haha. Though I think it just confirms something I already knew. The obstacles are too great. I'm not sure it means that the relationship is unlikely to be a stable one, or if it's unlikely that the two of us will come together at all. But my gut instinct tells me it could be difficult altogether. Especially with the house placements as you say.

I think, about the Sun conjunct Mars aspect, that it’s not so much that he’d be fueled by me, because being with me would rather hinder him from achieving his goals. I don’t know if it could speak for the dynamic between us. A little feisty perhaps.

I like the Venus/Jupiter/Mercury conjunction. Seems forgiving somehow. Pleasant. Not sure if it’s pleasant enough to make up for the squares I mentioned above though. But maybe if we ever got the chance to surpass the obstacles it would be a nice touch to our interactions.

I love reading your interpretations. Thank you for all your help in this thread!