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Ceridwen
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posted September 07, 2016 07:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just realized that I am approaching my quarter nodal return, with transiting Nodes being square the natal Nodes.

A moment of crisis - I suppose.
however it ALSO means that the transiting Nodes is on the exact point where my NN and SN merge (their midpoint) - so that point of crisis maybe also has the potential of awareness, realization, and bringing the past and future together into the present to manifest something.
In the best of scenarios - though still a point of crisis - but then again crisis just means "turning point" or "point of decision". So that`s that.


What I found very fascinating is that this Quarter nodal return will happen just a few hours before seeing the musical "Tarzan" and just a few days after my progressed Moon progressed into Virgo, and still being on 00 Virgo at that time. Hmmph.


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I just had a peek at it, but it`s glaringly obvious how strongly P is featured in that chart (is he the catalyst for that moment of crisis, or one of the main players for it?).

Not only is his name on the Vertex exact, but the Return DESC-Pluto conjunction also falls right onto his name in my chart.


On the other hand this is of course mainly about me. my name in the return chart is on 5 Virgo conjunct my name in my Draconic chart by one degree I think (and Draco Child, no clue what that is about though), near the Return IC, where the NN falls.

so my name is - loosely - conjunct the NN in that return chart. I guess it will have to do with my identity or perception of my identity somehow.

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posted September 07, 2016 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well..when me and my Aries met, TR Nodes were squaring his natal Nodes.
This turned his life around.

But it should be noted that his natal Nodes square his natal Sun- Saturn opposition, so the TR Nodes were not only activating his natal Nodes but this entire grand cross of natal Nodes-Sun-Saturn. The transiting orb was 1'.

And at the same time, TR North Node was conjuncting my natal Venus ( my Venus is his skipped step).

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Ceridwen
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posted September 07, 2016 10:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, especially those 4th harmonic aspects of transiting nodes in tight orb are often simply mindblowing.


However, apart from the transits of the nodes itself, I was thinking about doing a return chart, like we do a solar return (1 year) or a lunar return (1 month).


But even if not accepting these charts, well it`s interesting of course that my Quarter Nodal return will take place only hours before seeing P, so in the very least it would be a transit chart.

But personally I do believe in return charts.

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Ceridwen
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posted September 07, 2016 10:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The return chart itself


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And this is the nodal return with my natal in the outer ring - don`t even ask me why I put the asteroid Child in there.

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posted September 07, 2016 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, you have been going on for him for how many years now...was it 8 years? There should have been an actual return of the Nodes during that period. How did it manifest? I am having my reverse nodal return in a few months. Some ppl say nothing has happened during a nodal return, some have experienced a change.

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Ceridwen
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posted September 07, 2016 11:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, we`ve been on-and-off-crossing each other`s paths, though it`s really for the last 3 years that it was more often. In fact my last nodal return was in february 2012, during me taking a time-out, and seriously not wanting to ever cross his paths again; somehow things developed differently.


He`s going to have his nodal return in spring next year.


What I found interesting, though it is not a composite nodal return, but the transiting Node was exactly conjunct our composite NN just 2 days before a concert, during which he came down his stage, walking over to me asking for my name, which he already knew, and informing everyone that he knew me. lol
It was a weirdly intense concert in general, and you could say that from these two subsequent concerts on (on the first one he did the remark of me driving him crazy, which I slowly start thinking, might have been just the pure truth. ), our interaction decidedly changed.


As for people saying nothing has happened during a nodal return - well I consider return charts as charts for a time-period not one singular moment in time.

But like with Solar Return, such a nodal return chart needs planets falling onto the angles, the Zenith/ Nadir and/ or Vertex for something to manifest visibly.


My ongoing North Nodal Return is a very mixed bag I think, or actually I have not really delved into it, but it has that mega big 12th house with Sun conjunct Chiron. Yeah, well thank you for 18,5 crappy years!

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Ceridwen
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posted September 07, 2016 11:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my life the year 2012 definitely was a demarcation line between before and after.
There was a seed-phase of a few months though, in which I was stubbornly walking into the wrong direction, until making a complete Turn.

Of course this also coincided with my decision to lose very much weight, taken in november that year; it just coincided with P starting to have more guest appearances in my life. It really wasn`t like that before, just like a wheel that was taking up speed or something, slowly of course.


But ultimately it was important for MY process and development. It`s not just been the losing-weight-factor, there was a behavourial change coming with it, as well as a change of thought pattern. Pretty huge as a matter of fact.


I view that North Nodal return a bit like a New Moon, hence the quarter return would be similiar to a waxing Moon, when the seed in that North Node chart would start becoming visible and maybe with the need for readjustment.

I just wished mine wouldn`t have such a huge 12th house.


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posted September 07, 2016 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am going to cast a chart for my upcoming nodal reverse return, but I cant decide which one to use - the mean or the true

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Ceridwen
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posted September 07, 2016 12:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True.

Oh wait a moment, maybe my mean nodal return would be nicer?

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posted September 07, 2016 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 13, 2021 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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