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nordicsoul
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posted September 07, 2016 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is your experience with orbs with stelliums..

I have a stellium of all my personal planets as follows
mercury: 24 gemini
moon: 26 gemini
mars: 2 cancer
sun: 3 cancer
venus: 3 cancer

Someone's venus in Piscis (27 degrees) makes a square to all these planets. the square fall almost in the center of the stellium. the most exact square is with the moon, but with the sun the orb is 6 degrees.

I normally do not consider aspects beyond 3 degrees orb, but I was wondering whether the fact that it is a stellium the orb could be wider considering the summ of all the energies involved is more potent as it added from each planet.

what do you think?. I know that some people are very liberal about orbs. I am not that way and I like to use small orbs. so I would like to hear from people who are not liberal about orbs but would give special treatment to stelliums.

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angel4845
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posted September 07, 2016 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a question for you do you feel it? Do you feel there Venus making aspect to your Mars?

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angel4845
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posted September 07, 2016 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a stellium as well Mars 2 degrees conjunct Mercury 3 degrees conjunct the IC exact! In Capricorn. It's forming a grand cross in my chart and I certainly have felt a wide orb especially if it's there chart ruler or descendant ruler any of the 4 major angular rulers and especially if it's an outer planet I can feel it even at 4 degrees orb. My max for stellius at least for myself and comparing other people who have widely ASPECTED this by conjunction only 4 orb not more than that. However my friend who has sun conjunct moon in Aries her sun is conjunct her boyfriends sun at 3 degrees, her moon conjunct his sun at 7 degrees orb!!! She says she feels it... But that's cause it's a luminary and she was born on a new moon.

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posted September 07, 2016 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would count it.

Usually I would see where the midpoint is of the two outer planets and see which planet is closest there, this one sort of acts as a bridge.

Here in this instance there is no planet really close to the midpoint.

However this is a special situation here as the Cancer planets are on the antiscion of the gemini planets (and possibly parallel) so that brings them nto a - subtle- interconnection anyway.


If this had not been the case, I probably wouldn´t have counted it as conjunction (though still a stellium), for 2 reasons

1. two different signs are involved

2. the orb between the last Gemini planet and first Cancer-planets i pretty wide.


But it would have been a stellium nevertheless and as you said someone`s planet aspecting the midpoint of it, would bundle it all together. maybe it even would feel like a tight stellium ONLY in respect to this particular synastry, like the other person brings the potential out.

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posted September 08, 2016 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by angel4845:
I have a question for you do you feel it? Do you feel there Venus making aspect to your Mars?


Thanks for your response. well, if your question is about physical attraction in mars way, yes, but we do have lust-sun-mars opposition double whammy. his sun-mars oppose my lust and my sun-mars oppose his lust and we have pluto venus trine in composite exact. I know I am aware of his likes and dislikes with only looking at him, but this is explained by my moon square his venus (0.47 orb) however, perhap my question was associated to the person aspecting the stellium. does the venus person feels the energy of the planets (in spite of the wide orb) because of the stellium? I assume the stellium person feels it as the midpoint somehow is involved, but midpoint are receivers not energy generators. in this case midpoints are part of a stellium, which makes it a different matter I guess.

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posted September 08, 2016 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I would count it.


But it would have been a stellium nevertheless and as you said someone`s planet aspecting the midpoint of it, would bundle it all together. maybe it even would feel like a tight stellium ONLY in respect to this particular synastry, like the other person brings the potential out.


it is interesting. my ex-husband venus at 29 of gemini conjunct the midpoint of the two extreme planets. another important relationship with moon in 0.50 piscis also trine somehow this midpoint. and this guy is also perceived as important in terms of relationship potential. I am aware that someone aspecting the stellium would make an impact on the receiver. wondering if they would also feel the energy of the planets as the midpoints are close to the planets is not only a numerical calculation.

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posted September 08, 2016 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri,

This is out of topic, but it was just surprised to find out that the antiscia of my moon is exact my cancer sun and my mercury gemini antiscia is almost exact my venus. I .I have never looked at antiscia before and the fact that all my cancer planets are disposed by the moon in gemini wat the explanation i had for the cancer-gemini connection. Now this just reinforce the gemini-cancer connection in my chart. I also realized my mars antiscia (27,17 gemini) square that guy venus (27,7 piscis) and... his venus antiscia square my mars and more widely sun and venus.
thanks for bringing that topic to my awareness. I realized that antiscia plays a very interesting role in synastry that explains many things (in my case at least) i could not make sense otherwise.

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