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GrlyGirl200
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posted September 07, 2016 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone ever had this aspect? Or had Draconic Moon Conjunction Pluto? Or even Draconic Venus Conjunct Draconic Venus or Draconic Mars the same sign as the other person's Draconic Mars (too wide to count as a Conjunction). How did they (either one) play out?

I'm basically asking about any placement really lol. I feel very close to this person, and care for him very much. I also can't help but feel that we are very similar.

In addition to this my Draconic Sun/Asc/Mars are Conjunct his natal Moon, and my natal Asc/Sun/Mars are Conjunct his Draconic Asc. We also have My Draconic Saturn Conjunct his natal Venus, and my Draconic Venus is Conjunct his natal Saturn. Another thing worth noting is my Draconic Sun/Moon Midpoint is on his natal Sun, and his Draconic Sun/Moon Midpoint is on my natal Moon.

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posted September 08, 2016 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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yungang_grotto
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posted September 08, 2016 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds very important and compelling to me.

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posted September 08, 2016 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you figured this out by doing a Draconic Chart?
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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
Has anyone ever had this aspect? Or had Draconic Moon Conjunction Pluto? Or even Draconic Venus Conjunct Draconic Venus or Draconic Mars the same sign as the other person's Draconic Mars (too wide to count as a Conjunction). How did they (either one) play out?

I'm basically asking about any placement really lol. I feel very close to this person, and care for him very much. I also can't help but feel that we are very similar.

In addition to this my Draconic Sun/Asc/Mars are Conjunct his natal Moon, and my natal Asc/Sun/Mars are Conjunct his Draconic Asc (which happens to be his natal Sun/Moon Midpoint). We also have My Draconic Saturn Conjunct his natal Venus, and my Draconic Venus is Conjunct his natal Saturn. Another thing worth noting is my Draconic Sun/Moon Midpoint is on his natal Sun, and his Draconic Sun/Moon Midpoint is on my natal Moon.


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posted September 08, 2016 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Sounds very important and compelling to me.

I agree. Beautiful aspects in Draco is extremely telling imo.

I once thought I had horrid tropical synastry with someone. One day I plugged in our Draco synastry and our millions of grand crosses disappeared and all that was left was the most beautiful kite sans asteroids. We're now in a great relationship! I would have hesitated had I not seen the "higher vibration" of the relationship in the Draco chart..

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posted September 08, 2016 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about the Davison chart?
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Originally posted by Saturn8_Me:
I personally think Draco-to-Draco's importance is miniscule, compared to Draco-to-Tropical or Tropical-to-Tropical. Of course, I could be wrong.

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posted September 08, 2016 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would have not even assumed it was important, but both of us have (to the exact degree) our Draco Moons at (exactly) 8 degrees Sag. I do care for him very much. And a big chunk of me feels like I feel him (hopefully that makes sense).

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posted September 08, 2016 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Saturn8_Me:
I personally think Draco-to-Draco's importance is miniscule, compared to Draco-to-Tropical or Tropical-to-Tropical. Of course, I could be wrong.

They have that though. I think draco-tropical means more too.

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posted September 08, 2016 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My best friend's draconic moon is conjunct my draconic moon, about 4 orb.

We grew up next door to each other and we're more like sisters.

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posted September 10, 2016 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Draco SUN conjunct Draco SUN
Draco VENUS conjunct Draco MOON
Draco MOON conjunct Tropical SUN
Draco VENUS conjunct Tropical MOON

... Plenty.

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posted September 10, 2016 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can attest to the intensity of Draco-Draco-connections, though in our case linked to his tropical Venus-Juno-opposition, so maybe it`s felt through this factor. I don`t know. But his Draco Sun-Moon-MC on my Draco IC, opposing my Draco Pluto on his Draco IC, well it doesn`t feel miniscule at all.


though I DO think that the tropical is the Here and Now and is our plane of manifestation, so it makes more sense that Tropical-Draco is stronger and of course Tropical-Tropical. Still feels like the Draco-Draco sort of seep through the veils at least if there is a cross connection to the tropical.


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posted September 10, 2016 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm.. Tropical to Draco would also be significant, right? Like one "pulling" the other to their destiny? I saw a few threads on Draco-to-natal synastry.. But is there a more detailed book/site that has those concepts?
GrlyGirl,
I believe Draco moon - Draco moon is likely very significant. But it may also be difficult to "access", as of now.. (?)
Might take some time to get you both *there*, in a position where you can appreciate and enjoy the comfort this aspect brings.

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posted September 10, 2016 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I can attest to the intensity of Draco-Draco-connections, though in our case linked to his tropical Venus-Juno-opposition, so maybe it`s felt through this factor. I don`t know. But his Draco Sun-Moon-MC on my Draco IC, opposing my Draco Pluto on his Draco IC, well it doesn`t feel miniscule at all.


though I DO think that the tropical is the Here and Now and is our plane of manifestation, so it makes more sense that Tropical-Draco is stronger and of course Tropical-Tropical. Still feels like the Draco-Draco sort of seep through the veils at least if there is a cross connection to the tropical.



I agree. In our case the Draco Moon-Moon Conjunction is actually (loosely) Conjunct his natal Pluto and (loosely) Conjunct my Nara Uranus so that might be why I experience him to be exhilarating and exciting. If I experience him that way I'd be willing to bet that his experience of me is pretty Plutonian.

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posted September 10, 2016 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
me and my Aries also have that, thou it's his Draco Moon conjunct my natal Moon.
We also have draco Vertex-Vertex conjunction, and Venus-Venus conjunction.
And my draco Sun conjuncts his natal Moon.

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posted September 11, 2016 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceridwen

Having spent a good chunk.of last night.poring over a triwheel of our draconic charts and the composite draconic, I should revise my other post to say yes (something I do on the regular because it's soo pretty).. I also feel the intensity of draco-draco... and yes, it does seem to seep through... and represent that underlying soul connection which can be felt sometimes but is difficult to ground, as you say, into the physical mundane reality (I think draco must also be Here and Now but it depends how tapped into it we are at any given moment...).. without tropical connections. And those tropical connections from our own draco to our own natal are huge determinants of how we experience our Draconic... or soul (?)... consciousness...

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posted September 11, 2016 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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me and my Aries also have that, thou it's his Draco Moon conjunct my natal Moon.

YOU DON'T SAY!

(D.'s draco moon conjunct my natal moon, do I even have to say it?)

Rofl

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posted September 11, 2016 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Ceridwen

Having spent a good chunk.of last night.poring over a triwheel of our draconic charts and the composite draconic, I should revise my other post to say yes (something I do on the regular because it's soo pretty).. I also feel the intensity of draco-draco... and yes, it does seem to seep through... and represent that underlying soul connection which can be felt sometimes but is difficult to ground, as you say, into the physical mundane reality (I think draco must also be Here and Now but it depends how tapped into it we are at any given moment...).. without tropical connections. And those tropical connections from our own draco to our own natal are huge determinants of how we experience our Draconic... or soul (?)... consciousness...


Yes, I completely believe that, too.

Which of course makes me wonder how HE experiences it, as it is HIS Venus conjunct my Draco Pluto-MC and his Draco IC, and HIS Juno conjunct my Draco IC on his Draco Sun-Moon-MC.


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posted September 11, 2016 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange and Yun,

Draco Moon conj. tropical Moon sounds very special to me. especially since it is anchored in the mundane reality.

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posted September 11, 2016 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
YOU DON'T SAY!

(D.'s draco moon conjunct my natal moon, do I even have to say it?)

Rofl


Surprise !!

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posted September 11, 2016 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It does feel special

But I should say, some might consider it wide... my tropical Moon is 8 Cap, his draco Moon at 3 Cap, but Dawn found it noteworthy anyway so I've grown accustomed to using fairly wide (normal) orbs with draco-tropical comparisons. It's also neat that my tropical Moon is out of bounds at 27' declination, and his draco Moon is parallel that... so he meets my emotional intensity and renegade style

And then... his draconic Moon is conjunct our draconic composite Venus exact, and d.comp.Sun by 1 degree, and my draco sun/moon midpoint exact... (yes I like it being on d.comp Venus!!!... and Sun.. And his Moon).

And then... the draconic composite Sun/Moon midpoint is at 8 Cap on my tropical Moon, and actually square his tropical Sun/Moon midpoint, by 2 degrees though. So of course his tropical Sun/Moon midpoint square my tropical Moon, but it's wide by normal standards (just over 2 degrees--but fascinating how perhaps it foreshadows or hints at these other pictures!)

And his draco Sun/Moon midpoint at 13 Cap is conjunct our draco composite Moon at 14 Cap.

So that's a triple... or quadruple... whammy Sun/Moon = Moon scenario...

Edit: it's kind of even x5 because his tropical Moon is only 3 degrees behind his draconic Moon... so my draconic Sun/Moon midpoint almost hits his tropical Moon also.

And we have his draco Eros conjunct my draco Psyche at 29 Sag/0 Cap... I just like that one too much to leave it out! (This is all on top of my tropical Saturn/Uranus and his tropical Neptune/South Node... And composite draco Sun/Venus). I feel the responsibility and sense of security/insecurity and also the excitement of all of this, with my Saturn/Uranus there... And I know he feels the Neptunian South Node pull...

Also of note:

His draco ascendant conjunct my tropical North Node and Ceres, which Dawn made note of as extremely significant. Activation of the tropical nodes by the draconic chart is always very significant (my draconic Sun is square my tropical nodes!!)

His dr. Sun conjunct my dr Moon.

His dr. Venus-Chiron-POF-Angel stellium is opposite my tropical Juno and conjunct my draconic IC exact..

My draco Vertex conjunct his tropical North node, and my draconic Venus is conjunct his tropical Vertex

Aand I'll stop there sorry for going on (i could go longer!!), I did spend 3 hours thinking about this last night!

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posted September 11, 2016 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:

I agree. In our case the Draco Moon-Moon Conjunction is actually (loosely) Conjunct his natal Pluto and (loosely) Conjunct my Nara Uranus so that might be why I experience him to be exhilarating and exciting. If I experience him that way I'd be willing to bet that his experience of me is pretty Plutonian.


Definitely. And his experience of himself, actually.. as his draco Moon is there too!

And you yourself all on your own are likely a bit of a firecracker, so you would appreciate his Moon joining in the fun too

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posted September 11, 2016 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"We also have My Draconic Saturn Conjunct his natal Venus, and my Draconic Venus is Conjunct his natal Saturn."

I imagine you both care deeply for one another, then although since it is your draconic planets I guess it's you doing the feeling mostly, still he's gong to feel it when it comes through in you, and a double whammy at that...

And no wonder you feel similar, with draconic ascendant conjunct tropical ascendant, and the Moon-ascendant activation as well... very familiar and compatible, indeed. Pat Geisler says Moon-Ascendant and Moon-Moon were the most.important.indicators of compatibilIty in her experIence (40 years as a professional astrologer), and that Carl Jung identified Moon Ascendant contacts as the most prevalent between couples in what she says was the first statistical research into astrological compatibility (not sure if that's true! , just as Columbus didn't exactly discover America...)

And I haven't looked into enough case studies of draco Sun/Moon midpoint activation, but my hunch is that they're very important, and will often be activated when you would expect to see the natal.midpoint activated and it isn't, type deal.

As you can see in my post above, we have some Sun/Moon midpoint activity across the draco composite and draco charts, which I think is also significant, but probably not quite as in your face as tropical Sun and Moon on the draco Sun/Moon midpoints.

Although I think checking into how the composite activates the charts tells us how we will feel about the relationship, over time, how it will impact us, as opposed to how the individual affects us. Both are very important of course... as the relationship involves ourselves as well, our own changes, challenges, and the other person's, and how they mesh and affect us...

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posted September 11, 2016 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yung ,

Youve got Dr Sun conj Dr Moon also? We have that too only that its my Draco Sun conj his natal Moon, 0' degree.

Ceri and Yung,

I'll be damned, i've never checked the draco composite Sun- Moon Midpoint and im delighted to discover that in the Draco AND in the Tropical Composite , both Sun- Moon midpoints fall on our double Sun- Venus and on each Nodal axis.
The Draco Comp Sun - Moon midpoint is at 3' Virgo which is where our natal AsC( his) -DSC ( mine) conjunction is, my own Nodes and my Sun and his Venus.
The Trop Sun - Moon midpoint is at 15' Cancer where his natal Nodes are, and our other Sun-Venus opposition. Wow. Both angles, both Nodes, both Suns and both Venuses are at those midpoints. So equal.

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