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Yanmorg
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posted September 09, 2016 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My birth time is 100% accurate.
He said he was sure he was born around 5:30pm. He just doesn't know the exact minute.

I am on the inside and he is on the outside. I did not post the actual chart of the Composite, just the aspect grid because his birth time isn't dead on so some house placements still might be off.


Without any previous knowledge or story,

Could this be long-term?

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comdoc
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posted September 09, 2016 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not recommended. Overall synastry potential is only 3 out of 8 (less than 40%). This negative synergy will tend to drive you apart. Better to search for someone with better potential.

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
My birth time is 100% accurate.
He said he was born around 5:00pm so it's pretty close.

I am on the inside and he is on the outside. I did not post the actual chart of the Conposite, just the aspect grid because his birth time isn't dead on so some house placements still might be off.


Without any previous knowledge or story,

Could this be long-term?

SYNASTRY

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posted September 10, 2016 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably not, and I'll tell you why.

This is a karmic relationship, here to teach about obsession, possession, and take one to both the heights and depths. That PLUTO/SUN-VENUS configuration doesn't mess around, and I think I spy some quindeciles. Then there's MOON conjunct CHIRON. That's got to be one of the most beautiful disasters I've ever known. You don't know why you can't work -- it's not for lack of love, but it could be the lack of stability.

These souls collide and create entire galaxies; Big Bang. But it's what they're best at -- colliding. And you can really only have ONE Big Bang. Nobody knows what to do with the rest. They just know that it all drifts apart -- naturally. That's its course.

So this is my humble take. The most major influences seem the most prevailing to me, and that's what you can expect.

Can it work in the long term? Yes, of course. Anything CAN. But how do you trigger the Big Crunch? How do you return to the Singularity?

It has to be stable to function in longevity. If you can make that happen, well, you've definitely made a miracle. But they happen.

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posted March 04, 2017 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by comdoc:
Not recommended. Overall synastry potential is only 3 out of 8 (less than 40%). This negative synergy will tend to drive you apart. Better to search for someone with better potential.



Thank you for replying.

What website did you get your percentage result?

Did an explanation come with it?

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posted March 04, 2017 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We've been together 7 months today so I thought I'd give this post another spin

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posted April 15, 2017 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kannon?

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Kannon McAfee
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posted April 16, 2017 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd be happy to chime in if you will post the synastry chart that includes the planetary positions listing for both of you (red and blue).

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posted April 16, 2017 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you.

Is this what you are referring to, Kannon?

I am on the inside (1st person). He is on the outside(2nd person).

His birth time is 80% accurate. I played with his time between 5:00pm and 5:30pm amd nothing really changes. Our composite is pretty much the same except Jupiter is either in our 8th or 9th house in composite. Uranus/ Neptune is either in the 11th or 12th. I personally believe he was born closer to 5:30pm because it feels more like Uranus/ Neptune is in the 11th. Maybe you can add something to my observation.

I also noticed that although our moons are potentially semisquare (birth time isn't 100%), my 6th house symbolism matches his Virgo placements.

We've been together almost 9 months.

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posted April 16, 2017 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Kannon McAfee
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posted April 16, 2017 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not recommend a relationship based on this synastry as a domesticated live-in situation. Both of you could do a lot better and both be happier.

With 18 positive/supportive and 23 negative/stressful aspects, it is a mixed bag at best, and I'm being generous. The picture is tilted stressful and challenging with the mutual hard Mars to Moon/Mars/Saturn contacts indicating you have more work cut out for you than what most persons are ever willing to take on in aspirations towards domestic bliss.

If your heart is already in, I recommend keeping your own space, not living together, and keeping your own bank accounts -- at least for an indefinite period of time in which you grow towards each other in healthy communication habits, and coming to appreciate each others' routines and personal spaces.

So long as there is elbow room, activity, and a sense things are smooth, things could could roll along okay. But press the relationship harder in the attempt to force it into a domestication scenario and let the fireworks begin (not the good kind).

That is because the Lunar aspects are all stressful, expect for your Mercury sextile his Moon (I am assuming his b.t. is reasonably workable).

There are Mercury aspects, but not enough of the harmonious kind. Healthy communication patterns will be a challenge to learn with him. This is reinforced by the fact his natal aspects show tendencies towards wishful thinking and evasion.

There are a majority of positive Venus and Jupiter aspects, but personally I don't think those will be enough long-term to turn this into a happy domesticated situation. Since he is a Cancer with Virgo factors it is very likely that he wants a more conventional relationship.

Keep things loose. Aubyanne had good points about some karmic dynamic here. What I find most add is that of the 9 nodal contacts, 7 are of his planets to your node(s). You have mutual Node-Neptune contacts, suggesting that you have not seen the relationship or its potentials clearly from the beginning.

If you are going to pursue this relationship long-term, be prepared for it to involve work on issues or a hot-n-cold dynamic of possible drifting.

Within the next -6 years expect the relationship to change dramatically -- for good or bad. That is because Pluto is in slow transit parallel your composite chart's N.Node and Uranus. Saturn is even playing a part there now. If you can get through that period with improved understanding and a mostly healthy relationship, then it will have a real chance.

It looks like to me the best chance scenario is something like where you are both very creative types who have mutual understanding of this (Uranus-Neptune), loose expectations, and play off each others' creativity in a wa that maintains a healthy relationship, but free of the weight of conventional expectations for a relationship.

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posted April 16, 2017 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is possible that truly verified Ascendants for both charts could tilt the picture in a more positive direction, but even that won't change the picture with the Nodes, which involves his Mars-Saturn square your Nodes; your Uranus-Neptune parallel his N.Node.

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posted April 19, 2017 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your reply, Kannon. <3

We will see. Only time will tell.

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posted April 26, 2017 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Kannon.

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posted May 01, 2017 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 01, 2017 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Randall!

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posted May 10, 2017 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yanmorg
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posted June 08, 2017 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
**UPDATE: Moon conjunct Chiron in synastry is not as fatal as this forum has made it out to be.

For one, I've had several relationships (including a fairly recent one) explode over the smallest misunderstanding, hurt, etc without any prominent Chiron in sight.

The Chiron relationships I've had from doing research and examining my current relationship, have this spot of vulnerability that can EITHER break or make a couple. That vulnerability associated with Chiron is there and very much so. That part is true in my opinion. No doubt about it. But saying a relationship will explode and/ or die based on Chiron aspects is just a theory at best.

I've had enough Chiron relationships to make this judgement. And this is only based off my own experiences. I can't speak for anyone else of course.

Uranus isn't as unpredictable as it seems either. Especially if Saturn is equally as strong in the compatibility.


What I'm learning is Astrology isn't so cut and dry as I once believed.

Too many opinions, theories, predictions, etc.

Astrology is just a tool that I will use to navigate through life but it will not be my blueprint (I know many of you have said this but it took me a little longer to get it I guess).

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posted June 09, 2017 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In Maggi astrology the chiron/moon aspect feels like you’ve known each other in a past life and you feel like you were meant to be together so I think that’s a good thing.

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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
In Maggi astrology the chiron/moon aspect feels like you’ve known each other in a past life and you feel like you were meant to be together so I think that’s a good thing.

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posted June 14, 2017 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe Maggi is speaking some truths, then.

Chiron feels like 4th house synastry from what I've seen 4th house synastry being described. It's comforting and very transparent. I can talk to my partner about anything and everything without feeling out of place or uncomfortable.

It's a very new connection for me. I never thought a romantic relationship could develop this way. Not with my intense personality, anyway. I love it.

I ACTUALLY have the freedom to grow, learn, and develop as I am from where I am WITH someone. This is all I ever wanted in a relationship.

It's heavy too, no doubt (Cancer + Scorpio screams hypersensitivity), but with many many rewards thrown in.

Only time will tell what will happen with us. Saturn doesn't allow all that Neptune to get TOO carried away. Haha


Mars square Uranus composite - "hypersensitivity" "bickering" "petty arguments"

Mars square Neptune composite - "goat your gears" "pushing buttons" "name-calling" (any act that disturbs the relationship's foundation).

All normal.

Astrology cookbook interpretations make me think of the father villain in Hotel Transylvania. He was super dramatic about everything. Haha.

If we discuss astrology in real world terms without all the fluff, a lot of people would be less judgmental of the study, in my opinion.

One, two, three, etc aspects won't determine a relationship's fate.

A horrible composite/ synastry can thrive with the right transits/ house overlays and vice versa.

What's amazing about all of this is the awareness and our ability to pick apart charts and find clues hidden in aspect symbols, degrees, etc all related to our personalities and behaviors.

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posted June 15, 2017 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The elements present with these aspects are very much apparent. I just don't think me asking whether my relationship will last and professional astrologers telling me it won't, based off these aspects, is justified.

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Hi Yanmorg. I was briefly involved with someone who had his venus DEAD on my chiron. He told me he loves me and he was really into me, however, we did not end up in a relationship since he lives pretty very far away. Distance was something both him and I didn't know how to handle. Maybe in the future, if and when he does decide to move here for more schooling (MBA), we shall see. But we were mutual about calling it off and not making it into something more. We are still friends today and talk here and there.

I've been in an 8 yr relationship with someone and his chiron was dead on my name asteroid. It was a painful breakup but the relationship was one of the most truly loving relationships I've been in.

Chiron all depends on how the parties involved handle it.

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posted June 20, 2017 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Starry~*:
Hi Yanmorg. I was briefly involved with someone who had his venus DEAD on my chiron. He told me he loves me and he was really into me, however, we did not end up in a relationship since he lives pretty very far away. Distance was something both him and I didn't know how to handle. Maybe in the future, if and when he does decide to move here for more schooling (MBA), we shall see. But we were mutual about calling it off and not making it into something more. We are still friends today and talk here and there.

I've been in an 8 yr relationship with someone and his chiron was dead on my name asteroid. It was a painful breakup but the relationship was one of the most truly loving relationships I've been in.

Chiron all depends on how the parties involved handle it.


Does Chiron feel similar to 4th house synastry to you?

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