posted September 17, 2016 08:02 PM              

His chart

Synastry

Composite

posted September 17, 2016 08:31 PM              

Some of you know the story, I posted about him before. This is a Libra man I met about 4 years ago that has annoyed me multiple times. We met online and when we were supposed to meet in person he stood me up. He claimed he got scared. I was upset and iced him for a few months, but I restarted talking to him and we slowly became friends. He backed out from several things over the time which made me disregard him as a potential partner, and occasionally triggered my anger. Regardless of that, he was there for me when I went through tough times and I cheered him up when he broke up with his girlfriend. If one thing was certain between us it was that we'd support each other and allow the other to vent. The timing was always off, when I wanted to try something he wouldn't and the other way around. We became quite close in the last period of time. We discussed at some point, when we were both single, why we never tried a relationship with the other and concluded there was no attraction between us. I told him he was like a brother to me. Ohh, I am eating my words now, believe me. We've been in constant contact mostly online, but met in person occasionally and even spent a New Years Eve together because we were both lonely lol. He would sometimes flirt but never acted on it. I had several short relationships since we've known each other and he had one, but he was badly in love. He is still suffering over her, she kinda played him despite my warnings. Oh, I also tried to match him up with a coworker of mine but it didn't pan out.

I have been thinking of trying again with him for some time now, but whenever we planned to meet something would come up or he or I would back out for various reasons.

Tonight I went to his place. It had been a while since I saw him in person. I knew he started working out, he sent me flirtatious pictures of his new body, but I never really, EVER, took him seriously. But it hit me when I saw him. Gosh, when did he get so sexy and tall?! I couldn't believe it. I always considered him an attractive man, but I was never attracted to him. Being near him tonight took a lot of self control, especially since we shared some intimate moments (I can't explain) and I wanted to kiss him so badly. The conversation was also different, even though we shared many personal things throughout the years. He seemed much more mature and confident in person. I couldn't believe what was happening, it's as if I was discovering parts of him I never knew - and I really, really liked.

He texted me earlier to check if I got home safely and to tell me he enjoyed our time together.

But he didn't kiss me. I worry he still feels there's no attraction between us, though that is no longer true in my case. I don't know what to do, how to proceed. I don't want to be rejected if he doesn't feel the same. We've already been through some unpleasant stuff and I never would've thought we'd get here. I think we'd have a good base for a relationship, the only thing missing was the sexual attraction. I ended up appreciating many things concerning him, except maybe his typical indecision, anxiety and ocd, which made him turn back repeatedly when we had made plans together, but they're not as bad as they used to be.

What do you guys think? Can we finally be on the same foot here and actually start something nice??

posted September 17, 2016 09:05 PM            

But my moon-Neptune wants to say hello to yours and it kind of knows how you feel. Our admiration is wasted without some fairytale revelation

posted September 18, 2016 01:16 AM              

I am concerned about telling him I am attracted to him. All those Libra planets square my Asc. My main fear of not being attractive enough comes to surface whenever I think about it. I'd feel like the ultimate idiot if he rejects me and the friendship will most likely suffer. But I will probably do it. The friendship will suffer if I'm silently attracted to him, too. The hell with it.

Right now I am torn between the following options:
-kiss him and come what may. I do trust that it will endure somehow
-talk to him about it, tell him how I feel
-do nothing, wait it out. Maybe it will pass?

posted September 18, 2016 06:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Thank you, Florence! Yeah, Moon-Neptune can be tricky, too much idealism. I was disappointed with him many times, but I have to say he was never No. 1 for me. Whenever I planned to see him in a romantic sense I was frustrated for not having someone else. I don't remember ever him being the only one on my mind, not even in the beginning. He was always the back-up plan and I knew that no matter what he would still be there, we'd flirt and talk about things. It was alright because I didn't think he was ever serious about me either. I sometimes look at his chart and cannot understand his Plutonian nature, it's as if he's one of the least sexual/passionate people, at least that's how he seems to me, of course he has his passions, but I never saw the intensity in him, you know? Maybe that is why I never felt like this before, I like intense people. Last night was different. But I am seriously concerned. The main problem, I think, is my Saturn square his Mars and the timing being always off. The Uranus-Venus opposition was never too my liking, but that was because things ended so suddenly. I think after 4 years it's safe to say the Saturn-Venus aspects were stronger because we could've ended this many times before. I think I deleted him when he stood me up, but I don't remember how we reconnected, exactly. He was never so important for me, he was always in the background. And it seems now it's biting me in the arse.

I am concerned about telling him I am attracted to him. All those Libra planets square my Asc. My main fear of not being attractive enough comes to surface whenever I think about it. I'd feel like the ultimate idiot if he rejects me and the friendship will most likely suffer. But I will probably do it. The friendship will suffer if I'm silently attracted to him, too. The hell with it.

Right now I am torn between the following options:
-kiss him and come what may. I do trust that it will endure somehow
-talk to him about it, tell him how I feel
-do nothing, wait it out. Maybe it will pass?

His progressed Sun has recently opposed my Venus, his progressed Venus is 4 degrees from trining my Sun. Maybe I should wait until then. :/

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I just think it's so perfect for moon-Neptune for that to happen. The only thing that can override love with the best is discovering the best hiding underneath an innocuous connection. It's such a wonderful sensation but then so scary and hurtling to wonder if you've blown it.

He sounds like he really likes you, sending pictures and making sure you got home ok.

posted September 18, 2016 07:33 AM            

I am gonna write an article to try to help you do your own.

I could give you answers if I took the full week and did everything-the natals, synastry, Comp and all the asteroids.

However, I can't do that, of course.

I wish I could.

Maybe, my article would help you to break down things and get answers.

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posted September 18, 2016 09:28 AM            

P.S. I don't believe in the "happily ever after". I don't believe in romantic love until we die. I believe that we are meant to love and be loved and give and receive that love without worrying too much why or when or how we love as long as we don't hurt others in the process.

posted September 18, 2016 11:44 AM              

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Originally posted by florence:
I just think it's so perfect for moon-Neptune for that to happen. The only thing that can override love with the best is discovering the best hiding underneath an innocuous connection. It's such a wonderful sensation but then so scary and hurtling to wonder if you've blown it.

He sounds like he really likes you, sending pictures and making sure you got home ok.

maybe Neptune on the asc in the composite makes it a feature of your connection to have this undulating view of the other? (I know this typically is how you're viewed by others outside but at this stage you're also outside so I think it works) But even if it's unclear and changing that's just how you roll, it's not a case of it changing the foundation of your connection because that's a structural part of it. By which I mean it can bear it.

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posted September 18, 2016 11:47 AM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I would LOVE to help you, DM, but yours is not simple and/or yielding up info, as was Journias

I am gonna write an article to try to help you do your own.

I could give you answers if I took the full week and did everything-the natals, synastry, Comp and all the asteroids.

However, I can't do that, of course.

I wish I could.

Maybe, my article would help you to break down things and get answers.

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posted September 18, 2016 12:08 PM              

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Originally posted by Yin:
DM,
I'm of the "kiss now, talk later" persuasion so that's what I would suggest you do. You're already friends. What do you have to lose? If it doesn't work, then fine, you'll go back to being friends.
But what if it DOES WORK...
Don't waste time. Life's too short.
Good luck.

P.S. I don't believe the the "happily ever after". I don't believe in romantic love until we die. I believe that we are meant to love and be loved and give and receive that love without worrying too much why or when or how we love as long as we [b]don't hurt others in the process.

Maybe, DM, you are meant to be romantic partners for a while. Why not find out? [/B]

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Thank you, Yin! Haha! Normally that is the advice I would give someone in my situation, but when it's about me I am more anxious. I don't know if we would go back to being just friends, I think the rejection would definitely make me retreat from the connection, if he'd want to continue it. I have faith in our Venus-Saturn connections, they brought us this far and there were times when I was adamant about not speaking to him again. Yet here we are. I think we are only getting closer and closer, last night was the closest we've ever been, many boundaries were broken. I don't know if I want to push this for now, even though it's starting to become pure torture to be around him like this. There's also the composite Venus-NN conjunction, if we'll be mature enough for it. I always thought it was odd looking at it, I guess some loves burn slow.

You know what, I'm not going to plan anything. To say something or not, reach out and kiss him etc. I'll just let things happen and do what I feel.

Maybe we will be together. Maybe we'll both meet other people. But no matter what, I think last night marked a new chapter in our story.

posted September 18, 2016 12:31 PM            

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posted September 18, 2016 05:04 PM              

I remember that you're fire, Sag right? I know exactly what you mean, it's very hard for me not to be impulsive in romantic matters, but patience seems to be my lesson in this life. :/ Not pretty at all, but it pays off sometimes. The timing isn't very good right now, otherwise I would've said or done something by now.

Tonight I got nostalgic and reread our messages from the beginning of the year. I forgot I was sort of the one who broke him up from his girlfriend. Well, not exactly, but she looked through his phone and read some of our flirtatious messages and made a scene. :/ I forgot about it lol. Most of our messages are funny and witty, on most occasions he would ask when I'm available to meet and I'd be too busy with work or other things to meet. It made me a little sad, I didn't realize at the time.

It's weird, they broke up at the end of March but he's still grieving over it. Probably because she's still nagging him. Sadly, he has to get over her without any interference from me.

posted September 18, 2016 05:36 PM            

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posted September 25, 2016 08:27 AM            

Sometimes things we feel during Mercury Rx fade or change once it goes direct.

Hopefully something positive will come out of this, though, Mae.

Looks like you two have the dreadful Mars/Saturn square... Hmm.
And Venus/Uranus opposition? How wide is the orb?

posted September 25, 2016 01:55 PM              

The Venus-Uranus opposition is 0 deg 13 minutes in orb. )) It only manifested in the beginning, with our on/off communication. I wouldn't say I feel it now, except maybe for this sudden realisation.

posted August 10, 2017 12:54 PM            

was there ever a continuation of this story??