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mir
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posted September 23, 2016 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, their progressed Lunar Phases speak volumes. What we expect to find during a START-of (anything big) or let's call it BREAK-up in this case is a 4th harmonic phase (square/opp/con), from progressed Moon to progressed OR natal Sun;

23-9-'16

Brad;
- natal Sun 25'52 Sag
- progressed Moon 0'22 Cap

Angie;
- progressed Sun 22'50 Cancer
- progressed Moon 24'50 Libra


But what we definitely do NOT expect to find during a break is this;

his prog Venus 28'06 Pisces
her natal Venus 28'09 Cancer

And this one here below is the OPPOSITION, which is great to have during the start but often less positive when it's find "during" a relationship;

Her prog Sun; 22'51 Cancer
His natal Venus; 23'28 Cap

(his natal Moon 22'50 Cap)

We might argue that Sun/Venus is powerful enough to beat Venus/Venus, like Westran's research has proven it to be the most powerful of all. And to take her progressed Sun to this natal Moon (opp / slowww mover) with that.. assuming oppositions can really be the deathblow to established relationships.....

hm

Let's hope their birth data are correct!!!

pfff ;D

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Dancing Maenad
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posted September 23, 2016 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What the...?

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posted September 24, 2016 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wooooah that Venus to Venus trine! 😳

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posted September 24, 2016 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus-Venus progression is one that he called a big relationship-starter though, next to Sun-Venus. However everything needs to be considered in context (which I have not looked at yet)

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posted September 24, 2016 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let`s also not forget Angelina was/ is under the influence of Tr Uranus opposite/ square her progressed Sun-Moon-square; I bet she was adamant that something had to change, and when it didn`t, SHE changed things, in quite a sudden manner. Maybe it even came as a surprise to Brad.

With her pr Saturn being conjunct pr Sun (0°17) she was being REALLY serious. Maybe there was some bigger bump or a penultimate straw about 2 months back, when her pr Moon was on 22-23 Libra, and exactly aligned with her pSun-Saturn as well as Tr Uranus.

For him this Tr Uranus is of course squaring his n Moon-Venus-conjunction exactly and hence shaking up his emotional and romantic relationships and approach to them (could have been the start of a relationship as well of course, a baby or whatever, but sometimes Uranus IS what they say he is, a shaker and breaking up old conditions).

With Tr Saturn on his n ASC he probably wanted to hold on tho what he got, to the old, the status quo, but at the same time Tr Saturn also forced change and growth (which he might have not undergone willingly, so he was being subjected to it from the outside).


This Tr Saturn is also making a partile T-square with his Chiron-Uranus-opposition which is squaring his ASC-DESC, plus Tr Neptune on his Chiron squaring his DESC (and ASC), painfully dissolving relationships or changing the rules of those existing relationships (which he probably did not see for a long time)

The ecclipse took place on their composite Pluto (something in the relationship had to PROFOUNDLY change and transform or die); it also squared HIS Sun and aligned with his pr Venus widely, and very closely to his pr ATROPOS (another clear sign something had to die and be left behind, cut away, If not a pattern of behaviour then the whole relationship probably).


For her the ecclipse and Tr Mars made a Grand Cross with her natal Mercury on 22 Gemini - I guess she suddenly saw very very clear, and reacted instantly to that clarity (at least as she thought). Of course the involvement of Mercury also brings the reminder of children, not only communication, especially twins, and don`t they have twin siblings?


In fact on 15th septembe there was a partile opposition of Tr Sun on 22°34 Virgo to Tr Chiron on 22°56 Pisces, exactly aligning with her Mercury on 22°19 Gemini.


pretty sure there is much more, not sure I found the main theme, bt this is what got my attention instantly.

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posted September 24, 2016 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have not yet watched it, so no clue what he is going to say

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UvYuUv_NNo

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posted September 24, 2016 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah that's great Ceri.
Yea I saw that progressed T-square (or grand square incl Jup) of hers too.

And her progressed Sun/Moon midpoint exactly on that "doorway into the new" or the Solar Elipse of 1 sept at 9'21 Virgo. At that exact moment her midpoint at 8'23 Virgo.

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posted September 25, 2016 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As you can see in my article on Angelina's chart her Asc is correctly placed in early Leo (2°31'). This chart, progressed to the date of the divorce 21 Sept 2016 which was filed by her, shows a number of relevant aspects at/near culmination (orbs in minutes of arc):

- prog Moon/4th house bi-quintile natal S.Node (orb 04'); this can indicate timing of an emotionally relevant event in order to free oneself from past patterns.

- prog Sun/ruler of Asc [21N30] parallel prog Saturn [21N31] (12th house) indicates a period of dealing with hard truths, doing a bit of heavy lifting to maintain a standard or ambition.

- prog Uranus/ruler 7th square natal Sun/ruler of Asc (03'applying) - this is a 'breaking free' aspect of nearly a decade's duration due to prog Uranus' rate of movement of only about 1/2 degree/year.

- prog Mars/10th quincunx natal Neptune/5th (03' separating) indicates attitude changes, a reorientation related to career and children/creative output.

- prog Saturn square natal MC/IC, also virtually exact and very much worth noting as it suggests a time of pronounced stress in her domestic life; such aspects give the general timing of separations, breakups.

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posted September 26, 2016 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Kanon, that makes sense yes.
Thank you for sharing!

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