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thingsgoneby
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posted September 29, 2016 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please don't quote post or charts, thank you

Today I got "picked up" by a stranger at the weirdest place, at the weirdest time. I couldn't help but to notice him. He's REALLY not my type at all, but I could unwillingly feel my attention being directed towards him. He approached me, presented himself and gave me his number. I looked up our synastry and composite and found a couple of "intense" aspects in our charts. What kind of connection are we dealing with here? Something about our synastry and composite just screams stranger danger to me, what do you think?

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posted September 29, 2016 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's what jumps out at me on the challenge side

Mars square Saturn
Mercury square Mercury
Moon square Moon

Mars opp Venus and Pluto is one of those either or kind of things

Balance that against
Sun conjunct Moon
Venus conjunct Mars
...both very nice

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posted September 29, 2016 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How did you get his birthday if he was a stranger?

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thingsgoneby
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posted September 29, 2016 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
Here's what jumps out at me on the challenge side

Mars square Saturn
Mercury square Mercury
Moon square Moon

Mars opp Venus and Pluto is one of those either or kind of things

Balance that against
Sun conjunct Moon
Venus conjunct Mars
...both very nice


Thank you so much Gemini Blues! I noticed we have some nice aspects but the composite just looks euhm, vicious. Pluto/Mars/Saturn squares galore. It was weird though, because this guy isn't my type at all, but something about him made me very "aware" of his presence. I wonder what aspect contributed to that. Still, the Mercury and Moon squares don't surprise me. Let's just say he seems like a typical Leo Sun - Gemini Moon. Described as "Confidence Man" by universal-tao-eproducts.

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posted September 29, 2016 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Koniucha:
How did you get his birthday if he was a stranger?

He gave me his name and number and with that it's really easy to find information about birth dates

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posted September 29, 2016 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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mereiposa
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posted September 29, 2016 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bet the mars venus dw is what got your attention. It can be very potent!

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posted September 29, 2016 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mereiposa:
I bet the mars venus dw is what got your attention. It can be very potent!

It could very well be. The last guy I was "unwillingly" attracted to I had Mars/Venus DW with as well. It creates this in your face tension, that can be kind of annoying when they're not your type, but still seductive somehow. Perhaps Venus Square Uranus contributed as well:

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"When Venus meets Uranus, the chemistry is unmistakable. You probably met suddenly, and unexpectedly. The Uranus person is enamored by the Venus person’s grace and beauty, while the Venus person is intrigued by the excitement and unpredictability the Uranus person promises. You feel you have met your soul mate, and the relationship starts with a bang."

He's definitely not my soul mate. But there was something ... Hmm, and wonder where the "stranger danger" vibe comes from. Perhaps that's where the harsh composite comes into play, or maybe it's too soon to sense the composite?

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posted September 29, 2016 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It actually looks very hot. Venus/sun conjunction square Mars. But you are correct, with Jupiter conjunct the vertex and opposed to Pluto he seems to have powerful connections. Neptune trine to Jupiter and sextile to Pluto can bring true sensitivity and support .
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posted September 29, 2016 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gotta love the North Node IC conjunction...

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posted September 30, 2016 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
It actually looks very hot. Venus/sun conjunction square Mars. But you are correct, with Jupiter conjunct the vertex and opposed to Pluto he seems to have powerful connections. Neptune trine to Jupiter and sextile to Pluto can bring true sensitivity and support .
Todd

You think? Well then, maybe I should contact him! Haha. What do you mean by "powerful connections"? I was a bit worried about his natal Venus conjunct Pluto as well. But it's impossible to judge from an aspect just like that, it could manifest in so many different ways.

Thank you so much, Todd!

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posted September 30, 2016 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Gotta love the North Node IC conjunction...

Ooh. What does it do? Is it valid though if the birth time is incorrect? Birth dates are easy to find. Birth times not so much.

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posted September 30, 2016 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by thingsgoneby:
Ooh. What does it do? Is it valid though if the birth time is incorrect? Birth dates are easy to find. Birth times not so much.

^^ nope, birth times must be correct for precise angles I'm afraid.

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mereiposa
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posted September 30, 2016 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the age difference?

Is your gut saying danger, or are you just being playful? Mars opposite pluto can be rough. I have had it four times with the conjunction, and only once did it play out poorly. But I was always Mars, and the other is Pluto. When man is mars is when I have read it can lead to more physical trouble.

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posted September 30, 2016 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
^^ nope, birth times must be correct for precise angles I'm afraid.

Thanks! That's what I thought!

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posted September 30, 2016 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mereiposa:
What is the age difference?

Is your gut saying danger, or are you just being playful? Mars opposite pluto can be rough. I have had it four times with the conjunction, and only once did it play out poorly. But I was always Mars, and the other is Pluto. When man is mars is when I have read it can lead to more physical trouble.


16 years age difference.

He's just so far from my type. He's exactly the kind of guy that I'm usually wary of. I like sensitive intellectuals who talk about their feelings and quote Nietzsche, haha. He's quite the opposite. I just got this sensation ... and when I looked at our synastry and composite it seemed to confirm it for me. But some of you say "hot", though maybe hot aspects can be not so hot under the wrong circumstances.

Ugh, luckily it looks like I'm Mars in this equation too. My Mars opposes his Pluto, right? But yeah. I'm highly uncertain if I should contact him at all. But our synastry/composite intrigued me, and the meeting in itself. It was "sparkling". I'm unsure why.

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posted September 30, 2016 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well that Mars Venus is interesting stuff.

One of the last guys I dated had his Mars exactly on my Venus. We met online, and it was odd. He contacted me, with no photo, and usually I ignore those. But something about him got my attention and I emailed him back. We had chemistry from the get go, before we even met in person. I liked his communication style, and it was like I could feel the sparks over the internet. That was clearly before I knew his birthday.

Our relationship started with a bang, and true to form, ended after six months with a bang. I felt a lot of hesitation too from the start, probably due to gut instinct and probably other synastry aspects. But that mars venus was potent. I could feel it. It overruled everything else and clouded my judgement. Had our synastry been better I would have loved it, but we were lacking.

It was pure attraction though- meaning there wasn't true love involved. And it doesn't necessarily mean good sex, either. My experience was that it was just great chemistry. We only had it one way, though, and you two have a DW.

I always say go with your gut, it never steers you wrong.

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todd
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posted September 30, 2016 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by thingsgoneby:
You think? Well then, maybe I should contact him! Haha. What do you mean by "powerful connections"? I was a bit worried about his natal Venus conjunct Pluto as well. But it's impossible to judge from an aspect just like that, it could manifest in so many different ways.

Thank you so much, Todd!


Jupiter opposed to pluto usually shows a involvement with corporate, government structures. it is an aspect of a autocrat, one who wants to control all. usually this aspect will supersede any romantic notions that do not fit in with their plans. so even though it is romantic, it does not necessarily mean a intimate emotional connection will develop.
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posted October 04, 2016 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mereiposa: Thank you for sharing!

Mars Venus is interesting indeed. How did the online chemistry measure up when you met IRL? Did it fizzle out or was it just as strong? How about when it ended was it due to that the chemistry had died or some other event?

It does create a pull, definitely, but it doesn't necessarily mean good sex, huh? Which aspects would contribute to that do you think?

Thanks! I haven't contacted him yet, not sure I will, but mainly due to the fact that I'm not ready to get involved with anyone right now. I have other things to take care of. Otherwise, who knows, maybe I would have contacted him.

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posted October 04, 2016 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for clarifying, Todd!

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posted November 03, 2016 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm bumping this because even though it's been some time since I saw this person I suddenly thought I might give it a shot. I need to get back into the dating game lol. So, I updated our charts (synastry, composite and his natal).

What do you guys think, should I go for this guy? I just read something by a user called RunAroundScreaming about how composit love stelliums with squares from Pluto or Saturn could point towards potential nightmarish relationships and even though we don't have a love stellium, we do have plenty of Pluto/Saturn squares to Sun/Venus. But, maybe I'm being silly.

Do you think he might be a good guy judging from his natal?

I appreciate all the help I can get!

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posted November 03, 2016 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well this bump doesn't surprise me.

Amaaazing Lunar Phases (my focus these days and sort-of 'own finding') which fit well together, like yin and yang with the big need to 'pair up' in one way or another. The reason why 'opposing lunar phases' like these have a higher probability for getting of the ground.

Red like 13 deg past the WANING square
Blue like 13 deg past the WAXING square

(distance between Suns and Moons are the same - even without having his TOB it's outstanding, I'm not looking for exactness either)


What they have in common is the tension and rebellious nature of the SQUARE. But have opposing ways of experience;

While one must break free at the earlier stage (First Quarter or 18-21) in order to pass through the gate, here (Last Quarter) one is required to surrender. While a "masculine" heroic effort is symbolized by the break from childhood at the First Quarter, here an equally heroic "feminine" yielding is called for. To accept one’s life – the results of one’s past and the inevitable loss of identity and human freedom – is the task at this particular initiation.
http://www.cosmicwindow.com/cycles.html

For the record; I'm not saying that it should be all lovey dovey between 'opposing phases' and probably with both born under (or close to) the square even less (they both have some chararacter!) and I have to admit that I (9 deg past the waxing square) just broke up with mine (9 deg past the waning square) but let's not forget; BOREDOM is something you'll never have to beat between those!


I find the fit of both Venus/Mars phases (waxing quincunx & waxing semi-sextile) also amazing btw PLUS even strongly aspected both ways!

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posted November 06, 2016 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mir, just when I thought I started to get a hang of synastry …

Lunar Phases, how interesting. I’ve never read a single thing about that and how it would play out in the charts between two people. I tried to read up on the subject but I can’t say that I understood all of it.

What energy would opposing phases create? Is it like you say, some sort of completion of the feminine/masculine?

It’s like I’m trying to find every excuse not to contact this guy, but you knowflake’s seem to be on the same page. I’ve heard ”hot” and ”amazing”. Why do I have this nagging feeling … I’ve been emotionally fragile lately and the last thing I need is for someone to hurt me further. But that nagging feeling may be based on prejudice. His self-confidence gave me ”douchey” vibes. But, I don’t know. I want to move on, and this may be an opportunity to do so. Just live a little, I guess.

Interesting take nevertheless. Thank you so much for your input!

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posted November 06, 2016 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
***What energy would opposing phases create? Is it like you say, some sort of completion of the feminine/masculine?***

Yess I think you might say that! (atraction & completion to-the-core is what I've named it). Hard to find things about this (phase) subject indeed, and this insight for me started a year ago when I met this 'opposing phase' guy and that's what kicked the whole thing off here. Seeing things from a much broader perspective by first looking at each Lunar Phase seems more than logical to me - it now feels as if we miss the big essential pic by NOT doing it, and nothing closer to earth than the Luminaries! So in fact, we SHOULD look (+ absorb!) at it from the very start. Unfortunately I'm still about the only one doing it.. So words have to be found yet, insights need to grow... this takes time yea.

Well, this is very funny but what you said about his "self-confidence" ..
The very moment I met my opposing guy online I was sharing a lovely movie and the way he responded to that made me furious; "what a self-confident ASS!!" I had almost kicked him out of my room, verrry close. But I didn't and step by step I got to know him.. carefully, still in mind that first blow.
I started to rrreally like him and when I was sure enough that I "HAD-TO-HAVE" him I bluntly conquered him, no beating around the bush in the slightest. I left him no choice; it was ME and NOW (in this current timeframe) or nothing and a missed chance forever. At the time I was already totally done with half-hearted connections (enough of it!) so it was ALL or NOTHING and I couldn't have made it more clear, never did it either like this. I forced decisive action, not intending to spoil my precious time to hoping-mode for weeks at-all! After 2 days of striving for what I was worth to have he surrendered (right after he made clear that this all was a bit too much for him / so he left -> but back with tail between the legs 10 min. later)

The opposing quarter MOONS ^ ^ (me FQ)

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thingsgoneby
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posted November 07, 2016 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you again, mir.

Let’s hope there will be more studying done on Lunar Phases!

I enjoyed reading your story with your opposing phase guy, and I can totally relate to the "what a self-confident ASS!!” part. Not that he in any way behaved as an ass, so I would perhaps not go so far as to call him an ass (in my case), but he exudes the macho Sylvester Stallone kind of confidence. Though, he was actually really polite when he came up. Part of me is curious, but another part somewhat suspicious. I’d better make up my mind soon, because I’m guessing he won’t wait forever.

But you two seem to have had an eventful and invigorating interaction as long as it lasted

It’s just that, right now I’m actually for the first time in my life looking for someone to share my life with, and not just someone to have fun with. I’m not sure he’ll be the guy. Oh lord, I’m so indecisive. I see some red alert aspects in our synastry and composite, but no one else (except todd) have commented on them so maybe I’m just being overly cautious.

I’ll try to make a decision asap!

THANK YOU!

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