posted October 05, 2016 02:21 PM            

The guy (inside) is the one that is severely infatuated/obsessed/"in love" with the female (outside). So infatuated that he cries because he knows she doesn't have any feelings for him and because he knows his romantic feelings are not reciprocated. However, he goes miles on end for her -- helping her 120% with her career. He's like her manager. He said he can't stand the thought of her seeing anyone else. He gets really jealous and it kills him inside...but every time he says he will cut things off with her, he never does/able to do so.

She, on the other hand, still continues to be around him but solely because she is depending on him to help her grow her career.

These two do have a very strange relationship. He goes over to her house alot, takes her to the city, gets her gigs from everywhere cuz he has alot of connections...he pours 110% for her knowing well that he isn't getting anything except seeing her and being with her.

Any thoughts or insights about this synastry? Do you think they will eventually end up together? Thanks!

posted October 05, 2016 10:38 PM            

Whoa whoa whoa. The guy is inside?! Hahaha.... oh universe... you mess with me so.

Original post follows (switch him for her!):

Whoa. Yeah, hey?

Thanks for sharing.

It's really hard to tell whether they'll end up together without a super in depth study of many charts and factors, and even then of course it's only an educated guess.

What's obvious is his high esteem for her, and the fact that she may not fully embrace or feel she deserves such high esteem, with her natal Sun Saturn conjunction... but he's there for her 300% with his Jupiter there. A wonderful success aspect for business partners, and unconditional support of the Sun person from the Jupiter person is par for the course, doesn't matter what they do to them. This is familial love, doesn't mean it can't also be romantic, but like the true love a father has for his daughter... it doesn't ever truly go away.

It's his Chiron conjunct her Venus-Node, and his Neptune conjunct her Amor in part which speak to the true love quotient, the torture of true love... but you know, he's growing and learning so much. His soul is being tempered by this....

His Moon opposite his own Jupiter speaks to his super intense feelings about her... larger than life and exaggerated...

They have the double whammy Sun Moon thing going on.. comfort, familiarity, and extreme excitement on his part, she being the Sun to his Moon in the opposition means he's always at high tide with her...

posted October 05, 2016 11:16 PM            

He is inside the wheel

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posted October 06, 2016 09:00 AM            

Sorry haha, I did put the GUY inside (twist!)..because he's a closer friend to me and I wanna see what exactly is influencing him to be this way.

I talk to him about it and he cries about it. Poor guy! I honestly think it's her chiron on his venus/node. It's hurting him that he can't have her. He said that ever since this girl came to our town, he has been spending 3 days a week with her. Their 'friendship' dated back 5 years ago when they first started talking via facebook messages...so almost like pen-pal-y thing.

He just can't quit her - ya. I've never seen him so smitten like this. He is much older than her though (I think 12 yrs) and I told him that she's way too young to even give him what he wants.

HOWEVER he told me that he has changed for the better for her. He wants to wake up everyday because he gets to see her. Also because he's her manager and he gets all these gigs / commercial shoots for her (she's an aspiring model/actress). He said he just can't let go of her cuz he knows that if he does, her career is ruined and will absolutely tank...and he cares for her so much that he doesn't wanna do that.

She came to this country about a year or so ago, so I can see why she depends heavily on him. He cried and admitted to me many times that he loves her so much and it will kill him when he finds out she's having sex with some other dude, or dating another dude or if she gets a bf (she's single at the moment).

That's crazy! I assumed that is more "pluto" talking.

Thoughts?

posted October 06, 2016 09:25 AM            

Also,

posted October 06, 2016 09:43 AM            

ETA:

I had to take a break from her eventually because I don't have a lot of time or energy to give and every time I was around her it felt like she counted on me too much to make herself feel better and also monopolized the conversations. e.g. if someone was talking to me she wanted me ALL to herself and would just stick to me like glue.

It was a bit draining TBH but that might have been other aspects...anyway....

posted October 06, 2016 12:06 PM            

The girl is in her prime. She wants a real true serious relationship but also keeping it light hearted and having fun...which she can't get from him. Soo you guys are definitely right about the saturn/jupiter thing.

Here's the other side of the story: The man is also a lost soul. He does drink too much sometimes and gets drunk...shows up at her house and she has to take him in otherwise he's gonna sleep on the streets. Childish...he knows that too, but he said "I guess that's the only way I can feel that she cares. Otherwise she doesn't and it kills me. Care a little about me for god's sake!!!" -- his words exactly.

posted October 06, 2016 12:11 PM            

Here is their davidson chart:

posted October 15, 2016 10:24 AM            

The poor fellow is torn, he's very possessive and obsessive with her. He works day and night, trying to find her gigs and jobs. He does a very good job at managing her bookings. However, he knows she doesn't feel the same way for him...I encouraged him, as a friend, to be open and honest to her. We'll see how it goes. But so far, there is no relationship in the horizon, it's only a matter of time until he, himself, breaks it off with her.