posted October 07, 2016 09:26 PM            

We are looking at similar aspects for romance as we would be looking for in progressed-natal and progressed natal-progressed natal, but with the added element of personal progressed and natal charts aspecting the progressed composite/Davison charts, and the composite/Davison itself.

So, things like Venus trine Sun are nice to see from one progressed natal to the progressed composite. A basic affinity, appreciation, and bonding with the relationship itself, as an entity. This shows ongoing well-being in relation to the relationship itself...

It is hard to describe the principle of reading the entire flavour of hthe interaction generally, without specific examples... I don't look only at Venus-Mars and Venus-Sun, as per Westran, but the whole picture, the whole story, all the elements coming into play. Obviously it's nice for a committed couple to have some Juno or Vesta action at play in the progressions.

A couple I know I can use for a specific example. Their progressed Sun was conjunct progressed Saturn when they got together, and they became pretty serious and committed pretty fast, as you might well expect? It's been 3 years, so the aspect is separating now by 3 degrees and they have broken up a few times (and miiight stay that way), so I'm looking to see if there's anything that would suggest they will resume their commitment or whether this is a permanent break. I see that progressed composite Sun is going to be exactly conjunct her progressed Saturn within the coming year, so I can see that she will feel that pull again to commit on a personal level, for instance, but I can also see that her Saturn could have the opposite effect, of limiting or stifling the relationship. However I don't think this is likely with the personal Saturn making a conjunction to the Sun, and given the context and history of the relationship. But it's still a possibility...

That is just a tiny part of all the factors which have gone into this specific example, and it all seems pretty obvious, but I think sometimes it really IS that obvious; as in once of my past relationships where the progressed Mars Uranus opposition just was screaming so clearly... (that wasn't all, of course, but when it was the most exact aspect it was impossible not to blow up at each other every.single.day!)... and we got together when progressed Juno was conjunct progressed Vertex. But that was really the only indication that something was happening which was relationship material... that destined factor, the Vertex-Juno, and once it began separating, so did the relationship... and there was nothing to take it's place, except divisiveness. The rest was pretty explosive and divisive. Kind of like reading a book, like I said.. it was just very obvious...

But there is much more going on in the charts in the original example I have given.. between their individual progressed charts. It seems minor, but Venus quadrinovile Sun, and another novile between Venus and Sun between charts I can't remember which... these, in themselves, are a good suggestion that the feelings will continue to be romantic and affectionate. However I haven't reached any conclusions, I can only make hypotheses. I should mention that transits and progressions of the individual natal charts must be taken into account too.

Also I should make note that the progressed Sun/Moon midpoint is very important in determining current themes in a progressed composite, and the direct 4th harmonic aspects it makes to the progressed composite especially, though also the composite itself, as well as the natal charts, (to see who is contributing what kind of energy at that time, during that month, I guess) speaks volumes all on it's own. That progressed Sun/Moon midpoint is a highly accurate highlighter, much like Bernadette Brady says of the progressed Moon itself, which obviously also acts as such. When the progressed Sun/Moon midpoint goes 'void of course' in a sign, and makes few major aspects to major planets or points within the prog.comp or comp., I'm noticing times of re-calibration and relative calm.

posted October 07, 2016 10:01 PM            

cast a progressed natal for both parties. Cast the composite chart.

Create a synastry grid and/or biwheel of the progressed natal and the composite. Note aspects. Then do this for the other partner.

Then mix and match... the natal charts of each partner to the progressed composite and Davison. And then the progressed charts to the progressed composite/Davison.

posted October 07, 2016 10:14 PM            

For instance, her

progressed Sun is at 19'55 Libra, while
composite Venus is at 21'22 Capricorn

Her

progressed Venus is at 05'10 Sagittarius, while
composite Sun is at 10'15 Sagittarius

So right there we have an applying square which will perfect within 2 years of Sun and Venus, which is a tense aspect, but her natal chart and their synastry as well are characterized by squares; she really uses the square energy to maximum effect, and my read is that this is a beneficial influence for them. And then obviously it will take some time for the pr.Venus-composite Sun conjunction to perfect, but along with her pr.Saturn conjunct pr.comp.Sun coming right up, that gives us an indication that there is the potential for a long term association to continue to develop and to re-commit.

None of this guarantees anything absolutely, of course. It just gives us some useful clues and hints at the fact that the union will remain a romantic one in her sphere of experience, at least.

Now I'm not talking about him much, because this friend of mine is interested in continuing the relationship, full stop. But I might as well reference his progressed natal to the composite as well... so what do we see there...

His

progressed Venus quincunx composite Sun, 0'21 degrees applying
It is also quincunx composite Mercury pretty tightly, sextile compsite Moon by 2 degrees and applying, and opposite Mars.

So we see the attraction and flow, as well as the tension they've been experiencing, and the magnetic physical attraction... as well as the difficulty and the frequent separations and necessary adjustments (quincunx), all looking solely at his own progressed Venus to the composite chart.

posted October 08, 2016 12:32 PM            

I just noticed in our pr Davison something "odd"

in the basic Davison we have a Grand trine in earth (which I find especially interesting) of

Eros 3°23 Cap
Pallas 3°43 Virgo
Chiron 4°38 Taurus

in that first live-podcast he was addressing me personally, there was

pMoon 2°53 Cap

Last week, when we had the last exchange, and he was again addressing me personally, though it was this almost weird mix of friendliness and very teasing.

pMoon 3°25 Cap

so the pMoon had just perfected the conjunction to Davison Eros and of course is on its way to trine Pallas and Chiron as well.

As far as I know there are no strong relations back to our natals, though that p Moon is applying to conjunct my n Venus on 6 Cap (and pMars on 5 Cap) in about 2-3 months?

There is nothing BIG for him regarding this, though I do make a mental note that his

n Vesta 2°59 Taurus
(his pEros at 1°53 Aries now, it had been activated/ stimulated probably a bit ago. Let me check -

well at the last time we met in person pr Davison Moon was at 1°21 Cap, square his p Eros at 1°48 Aries - and interestingly enough our first meeting chart had a Moon-Pluto-conjunction at 0-1 Cap, hard to not remember this. lol)

Of course that is just one isolated minor bit, but I just noticed.

I want to look at this more structured though, and I would appreciate it very much if you could help me with that?

posted October 10, 2016 02:46 PM            

Or we can do it here, maybe it would serve as an example? I can post the charts here, too.

Let me know what you prefere - here or on email

posted October 10, 2016 04:14 PM            

Me:
18th december 1974
7:07 a.m.
Viersen/ Germany

Him:
19th december 1979
12:34 p.m.
Wuppertal / Germany

posted October 10, 2016 04:29 PM            

I'll e-mail you as soon as I get a chance. I'm starting an Astrology and Alchemy course with Dawn Bodrogi and this afternoon is our first class.. fascinating reading material... so excited

posted October 10, 2016 04:44 PM            

in the composite (progressed/ natal)
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pMoon quinkunx pSun 0°17a
pMoon quinkunx pValentine 0°18a
pSun sextile pValentine 0°01 a

- so we`ve got a very temporary Yod with Sun and Valentine, not sure if that is even relevant, but I liked the sound ofit. lol

- maybe more importantly we have a basically EXACT quinkunx of Moon and Sun in the progressed composite; so gibbuous Moon, in the book on Moon phases I have it is called the "Life Giver`s Moon" (cause Moon is in Cancer).

- What I also notice is that it means that we are going to have pMoon opposite n Moon in composite eventually as our composite MOon is on 22 Capricorn, and the current progressed Moon on 6 Cancer.

the lunar-lunar-opposition will be exact in december 2017 (one month after my pMars conjunct nVenus peaks, though not aspecting this one)

and in january 2019 our progressed composite will experience a fullmoon from 8 Aquarius (Sun) to 8 Leo (Moon) - the Queen`s Moon.
My own fullmoon was happening last year and took place on 7-Aqua-7 Leo I think. And his own will follow 4 years later on 11 Aqua- 11 Leo

At the time of the pr fullmoon my pASC will be conjunct our composite Venus within half a degree, while his pASC will be squaring pr composite Venus with half a degree applying approximately.

but returning to the NOW

- pVenus ever so slowly crawls closer to trine pMars

right now it`s p Venus on 4 Pisces - pMars on 10 Scorpio

They`ll only come into 1 degree orb of a trine in 2021, so probably not of real importance.

Anyway I DO notice that currently pMoon is applying to the progressed Venus/Mars-mp on 7°27 Cap-Cancer. (would be there next month I think)

Well pMoon had been trine pVenus 2 months ago, approximately, and now applies to trine pMars in about 4 months.

- pJupiter quinkunx pUranus 0°04 s
of course a slow one, but I thought it was interesting, as when we sort of "re-met", there was an exact mystical triangle of pMercury on 13 Aqua, pUranus 13 Scorpio, pJupiter 13 Gemini

- pVertex conjunct pDESC 1°57a

- pSun/Moon is on 21°21 Aries which means it had been on the nodal axis 1-3 months ago,
and currently is squaring my Vertex, Eros and Sun/Moon-mp exact, while opposing his n Pluto with just 2 minutes applying!

I know I am far from being done with the charts, but this was the initial look up of just the progressed composite itself,

If adding the natal composite:

pSun conjunct ASC 5°13 s
- why do I mention this? Cause this was 5 years ago, and it marked the moment when he first came up to me during a show, teasing me, putting me on display and simply not letting go. lol when that happened and totally shocked me, the conjunction had an orb of 2 minutes (separating) I believe.

- pMoon opposite Sun/Moon-mp 3°27 a
this will hit in 3-4 months I think

- pMercury square MC 0.26a

- pVenus square BML 1.26 a

- pVenus square Venus/Marsmp 0°14 s

- pVertex square Sun 0.22 a

- pAmor square Psyche 0.03a

- pValentine conjunct BML 0.15 s

- pSun/Moon
conjunct NN 0.36s
conjunct Amor 0.46 s
square Moon 1.31 a
conjunct Mars 1.47a

(his n Pluto is conjunct c-NN-Amor-Mars; my n Antivertex and Sun/Moon-mp is conjunct c-Moon)

- pMC conjunct Sun 1°16a
which I find especially interesting, since

a) Sun rules the DESC
b) my Sun-Mercury and his Sun-Moon-MC are conjunct composite Sun (at the current time the progressed MC is closer to my Sun-Mercury though, and about 1 degree off his Sun and 2 degrees off his Moon-MC)

posted October 10, 2016 04:55 PM            

About him coming to your dinner....

I pulled 5 of pentacles - 9 of pentacles - Page of Cups

Mmmh first card looks like a No, and you might be disappointed, second card probably depicts you still having a good time without him, but then with the Page of Cups he seems to appear and bringing something to drink, or some sort of peace offer. LOL

Well we`ll see.

posted October 10, 2016 08:21 PM            

Our relationship is SO Pluto and Uranus charged that the cards can't seem to predict a darn thing for me., it all changes drastically, every day, at the speed of thought...

posted October 14, 2016 08:10 PM            

Ok so first we're going to look at the progressed natals and the progressed Davison together, for the present date. Progressed Davison is in the middle, P. is on the outside and you are on the inner wheel.

The thing that immediately jumped out to me was that the progressed Davison chart is approaching the first quarter moon phase, which is quite significant.

Bernadette Brady terms the progressed lunar phases in the following ways (most simplistic version):

New Moon - Emergence (0-45 degrees)
Crescent - Assertion (45-90 degrees)
First Quarter - Action! (90-135)
Gibbous - Expression (135-180)
Full Moon - Fulfillment (180 - 135)
Disseminating - Synthesis (135 - 90 )
Third Quarter - Reorientation (90 - 45)
Balsamic - Release (45-0)

"Occurring seven years after the New Moon, we have the waxing square; a time of action. The action springs from the essence of the New Moon. You feel a deep need to physically materialize the desires implanted seven years earlier. It's an ego-building time, with personal achievement taking the lead role.

If a client is in this lunar phase, all her predictive work will be flavored with this essence of action-- the energy of the square: manifesting, pushing forward, obvious to the world. The seeds of the New Moon are now visible to the world and during this time the plant is growing rapidly, achieving most of its strength and height before it is needed to support fruit.

Joan [of Arc] was 14 years old when she started her First Quarter lunar phase. It was then that she started to hear her voices. This was the time that others became aware that Joan was hearing voices.

The First Quarter Moon is the physical manifestation of the energy of the New Moon."

Ok, phewf. That is Bernadette Brady's description and obviously relates mostly to a natal chart, but we can quite clearly see how this might apply to your situation with P. The progressed Davison chart will, in 8 months, reach this crucial point of Action! And it lines up, quite significantly, with his progressed Vertex at 0 degrees Scorpio, and your progressed Uranus, at 2 degrees of Scorpio.

Uranus signifies actualization of the essential self, the inner genius becoming manifest in the outer world, true expression being facilitated. When the progressed first Quarter Moon in a Davison chart hits somebody's progressed Uranus, we can expect action. Now of course it will hit your natal Uranus sooner, actually his progressed Vertex is nearly exactly hitting your natal Uranus right now, only about 10 minutes apart at 00 Scorpio.

This signifies that his spiritual gateway, his vertex, the point which admits new action and growth in the life, the bringer of potentiality, is open to your essential self expression at this time. The lunar 'highlighter' of the relationship itself will be crossing this gateway in 8 months' time.

So there's that.