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EmGem
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posted October 17, 2016 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have decided to leave myself open to other opportunities since my situation with my Aries soulmate has left us going in different life directions for now.

So I meet this guy about 6 weeks ago through a mutual friend. He intrigues me and we are very chatty (just friendly banter nothing more). I clearly intrigue him because the next night he asks me out. I politely decline because I wasn't sure what was happening with my other Aries, only to later realise that he was being swept away into fame after appearing on a talent show.
So meanwhile Aries number 2 comments and likes my posts. I do the same to his. I find him interesting and we are clearly very mentally compatible. He then messages me and we get chatting some more, more banter. Every day he messages me, asks me to lunch spontaneously but I was at work so I couldn't but told him I'd love to another day. So the next day he asks me for pizza. I go. We get along great and I feel very drawn to him, physically attracted and loving his Pisces moon blue eyes. Not crash hot on some of his fashion sense but anyway lol. We talk for 3 hours drinking beer and eating pizza. He shares some pretty personal stuff with me and even tears up as he tells me of his experience with chronic depression. Tells me he first thought I was out of his league and that it was a huge thing for him to message me but he didn't want to regret it. It was a lovely encounter, making me feel safe that I was the one he liked.
There was no kiss that night, very early days yet and I just want to get to know him more.
He messages me soon after saying goodbye. Even the next day saying I was so beautiful etc. joking around lots about other stuff. It was cute!
Then the day after (Saturday just gone) I didn't hear from him so I messaged him on Sunday asking how the supemoon was affecting him (in a fun way) as we had been discussing it two days prior. Any reply? NO. NOTHING, at all. He had chosen not to even open the message. I know it was delivered on messenger 100%! I saw that he had been online too, still posting stuff ect. But not only that, he still keeps liking my posts! I'm like wtf?! I'm so confused.

Below is his natal. Can you please tell me what might be happening? TOB is correct.

Also my planets fall into his 5th, 7th and 8th ruler is activated.

Did I scare him off? What to do?

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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 17, 2016 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww, your Aries is like, 6 days younger than me! My Moon is not in Pisces, but it conjuncts Neptune exact. My Asc is Cap, but I have Aqua intercepted and pretty much the same houses as him.

What I can say is that I am very honest with people I am interested in, I don't say I like them unless I really do. Also, few things scare me in others (except, well, a few mental illnesses), more in myself. I tend to overshare about my life struggles a lot and it's not uncommon to tell them about my childhood sexual abuse or my depression on the first date. I want them to know what they're getting into and also if they can handle me. I tend to be a pessimist too and assume the person of my interest doesn't like me or I'm not enough for them. I don't have affairs, only serious relationships. Taurus Venus and all. So if I go after someone, I mean business.

In my opinion, these are possible scenarios to what could have happened to him:

-he meant to read the message and reply but he got sidetracked. I know, sounds silly, but us Aries are known to have extremely short attention spans. I am notorious for forgetting to reply to emails, texts or messages. Seriously, I am the worst ever! It doesn't mean that I don't care about those people, on the contrary, they are some of the people I appreciate. Also, if you talk on FB messenger, he CAN read the messages without opening them, if he has the pop up notification on. I do it too, see the message and reply a few hours later when I'm in a better mood and come up with a witty reply. The other person thinks I was busy and didn't get the chance to read their message. It's a Mercury opposite Pluto sneaky tactic, though pretty harmless.

-he might be terribly insecure, like he has hinted to you and succumb to feelings for worthlessness. I do too, though in general I have to have a more concrete reason. Usually I bounce back soon, and get back to the people I care about.

In any case, I would suggest writing him again. A phone call would even be better. I was in a similar situation with my current boyfriend, due to a misunderstanding, when there was a day of silence after a superb first date. I calmed down and simply wrote to him, telling him that I had a lovely time with him and would like to see him again, but that the silence was confusing and I hoped, knowing he is an upfront type of person, that he would let me know if he didn't want to talk to me again. I think this honest and direct approach is the best. I would respect the other person tremendously for it, and my bf, who's pretty fiery as well, did too. That's how you get fire people to love you: be brave and put yourself out there. It's worth the risk.

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posted October 17, 2016 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrology aside, maybe he's just an a$$hole... I'd move on. He shouldn't make you feel like you have to ask this question.

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posted October 17, 2016 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Em, his chart is so eerily similar to someone else's chart in my life. This person is also an Aries Sun around the same degrees as yours.

Weirder yet, he also has Venus conjunct Chiron in his natal. Even more odd, that Venus is *also* the apex of a Yod involving Neptune and Pluto as the base!!! Strange, right? This guy admits that even though he has a bunch of suitors, he can't maintain a relationship for longer than 6 months because he gets bored. I think low self esteem plays a part in it too.

I love Pisces Moons and have met many highly loyal ones so I won't place the blame there..

Perhaps your Supermoon joke wasn't actually a joke afterall and did end up affecting him in some big way?

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posted October 17, 2016 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he has aries sun, but venus and mars are in taurus. moon in piscis... i would not read him as an aries..

venus quincunx neptune and pluto saturn? does not sound too aries either..

if you want to find a cause, Aries placement will not give you any clue. he is very neptunian with that moon in pisces and venuns quincunx neptune... and that unexplained dissapeareance sounds more fishy to me than fiery... and if you want to enter into neptunian waters, be my guess... welcome to the uncharted territory where everything is not what it seems...

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posted October 17, 2016 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His sun just got hit by that full moon conjunct Uranus, might have knocked him off balance and made him feel crazy.

Perhaps he's just waiting to get re-stabilized before connecting with you again. Maybe he doesn't trust himself to engage in conversation right now, but he "likes" things to let you know he's still there.

People understand the fact that Pisces moons can get emotionally overwhelmed and retreat, but it's still confusing for everyone when that actually happens.

The electronic world is rough on Pisces moons...people need immediate answers or they start wondering and accusing...and sometimes this moon really cannot keep up. I don't want to make excuses, but this is a legitimate weakness.

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posted October 17, 2016 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he likes you and got scared to be rejected or to have his feelings hurt, he has venus conjunct chiron. being an aqua, I do need some distance to evaluate everything, I suppose he does that too

may be he felt you were going to be trouble for his feelings ...

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posted October 17, 2016 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's the possibility that he's suddenly decided to play a little hard to get, as well (so many possibilities). Just wait him out for a couple of days. He'll def. get back to you sooner or later if he's in to you. Not that I'm some sort of relationship expert but I wouldn't message him before he's answered. The ball is on him now

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posted October 17, 2016 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the responses guys 🙏

I initially thought it was an Aries thing too but they're pretty relentless with the chase until they actually make it to the bedroom.

I agree with nordicsoul though in that he's very neptunian. You only need to see those dreamy eyes. You'd get lost in them.

For the record, he was in a committed relationship for 5 years. They broke up an drew he moved to my city in January. I wasn't even asking for a commitment lol, we were just getting to know one another..

So I saw on social media that the day I messaged him, he was off doing some photo shoot with some chick and then went to a party that night dressed as a pirate. Seemed like he had a ball.

But that's still no reason to disappear and not even message the next couple of days. To me, if you 'like' someone, then you want to connect with them and do right by them by not ignoring them. I get really busy and distracted too but if I see that the person I'm into has messaged me I'd want to make the effort to message them back.

I know whats going to happen though. I'll get over it and cut off and he'll get in touch then. I'm too old for these silly games 🙄

Edit: a big part of me doesn't want to msg him because of my Leo pride. But there's also another part that wants to tell him this is not cool.

Does our synastry explain more? He's outside


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posted October 17, 2016 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Em... this guy was born the day before my ex. I guess the dream world was onto something after all.

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posted October 17, 2016 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The part of you that wants to tell him it's not cool is right on the money.

Notorious flirt, manipulative, self absorbed, etc etc. They need to grow. Up. And take responsibility for playing with people's hearts left right and centre.. and stop being sooo darn selfish.

It takes a village to take the pride in this chart down though (well... we'll see)... my friend and I right now (the other woman, his new flame, his old best friend, my friend) are currently conspiring to get him to get tested for stds which he never has done... he is finally admitting that would be a good idea... Long story short, if I would call anybody a player, I would call these people players.

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posted October 17, 2016 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But this goes to show again how houses are all important. Obviously he's different. But finely recognize what you're describing here...

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posted October 17, 2016 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I know whats going to happen though. I'll get over it and cut off and he'll get in touch then. I'm too old for these silly games."

Sorry for letting my personal experience cloud things. Had to edit.

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posted October 17, 2016 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquarius Rising.

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posted October 18, 2016 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omg Yun! 😱

These synchronicities are getting stranger and stranger.

Well yes, house placements would definitely change someone! I really hope he doesn't turn out to be like how you describe your ex.

Let's see what he does because I'm sure he'll be back. And I assure you, I will let him know in my own way that I ain't putting up with that BS!

The liking my posts thing. I think he's just keeping me warm! Arrrrrrgh 😡

@Nine, care to elaborate? Aqua risings can't all be like this surely..

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posted October 18, 2016 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can find also a thousand posts of mine describing my ex as genuinely confused, hurting, sweet, loving, etc etc so that one is by no means the whole story.

Also player is a super harsh word... But he does flirt with so many people and is really unaccountable for his actions... thing is the Neptune factor and other things... lots of things...

Ummm

But argh this person/chart is the craziest puzzle, probably part of why I was so fascinated and in love (of course I'll always love him). Very very complex individual, the depression is for a reason, the cruelty and self deception can be really big problems... the manipulative element of the Venus/Chiron-Pluto quincunx and then Neptune in there to top it off.

Reading your post again it sounds like there is actually a good chance he just didn't get your message... all things considered...


Want to post the composite??

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posted October 18, 2016 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems like such an illusion Yun. The sweet natured heart, the tears in his eyes and that charm that is bound to draw any empath in. Whether it's a web remains to be seen but I don't like the sound of this quincunx.
He seems to be so willing to fight this depression. Does yoga, sees a psych and gets out into nature to soothe himself. He is AMAZINGLY creative, has a mind like a spark. He owns a physical theatre/poetry/spoken word company. He's so quick with his wit and I guess I can see that correlation with his depression.
I remember reading your posts Yun

Still, even if he didn't get the message, he's cut off cold all of a sudden and I don't like that. I love my space but this is weird considering he was messaging me every day.

Here's the composite.

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posted October 18, 2016 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh they're born the same day, hours apart.

At least your relationship chart lets you know about the deception right off the bat...

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posted October 18, 2016 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Sun/Moon midpoint of the composite falls right along the hotspot of his natal yod, which is a good indicator your relationship will possibly help him become aware...

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posted October 18, 2016 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
His sun just got hit by that full moon conjunct Uranus, might have knocked him off balance and made him feel crazy.

Perhaps he's just waiting to get re-stabilized before connecting with you again. Maybe he doesn't trust himself to engage in conversation right now, but he "likes" things to let you know he's still there.

People understand the fact that Pisces moons can get emotionally overwhelmed and retreat, but it's still confusing for everyone when that actually happens.

The electronic world is rough on Pisces moons...people need immediate answers or they start wondering and accusing...and sometimes this moon really cannot keep up. I don't want to make excuses, but this is a legitimate weakness.


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posted October 18, 2016 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
The Sun/Moon midpoint of the composite falls right along the hotspot of his natal yod, which is a good indicator your relationship will possibly help him become aware...

Aware of what a prick he is!

I'm fuming right now because he just posted a pic on FB from sat with that girl and they're holding hands, knowing I would see it! What an a-hole 😡😡😡
His title was 'sup facebook'

WTF!!!

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posted October 18, 2016 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems to be my destiny to be surrounded by Pisces Suns and Moons, in all kinds of intense relationships. So this is something I am soooo familiar with! It has Pisces written all over it.

It does not necessarily mean that he's not doing right by you or that he has lost interest. I would not make judgements of his character, but rather decide whether this type of behaviour is something I can tolerate, i.e. it's much more about *you* than about him.

My observations:

What is accepted as "expected" back-and-forth exchange between two people, especially in texting (I say something, you answer, then I answer, then you answer) feels very limited and confining for Pisces. They prefer to follow the organic flow of interactions (they feel inspired and they share something, then you can either reply or not - or vice versa, but attaching expectations to it dampens the beauty of the interaction).

Sometimes asking them specific questions in order to ignite a conversation can make them feel "on the spot" if they don't have anything specific to answer. I.e. your guy might still be making sense of the effect the Full Moon had on him, so he can't yet put it into words and explain it to you - and also, he doesn't want to give a "on the surface" reply, just to keep the conversation going.

Time is also a relative concept for Pisces - a few days of no contact might feel like eternity to you, but to them it's just a small phase when there was nothing they felt worthy of sharing.

All of this doesn't make them bad people or partners, but naturally it makes them incompatible with people who need constant or "regular" contact. I guess it's a matter of whether you really do prefer constant contact as your relationship style, or it's just that the lack of contact brings up issues of insecurity. If it's the latter, a relationship with a Pisces, once you're familiar with their patterns, can provide great personal freedom.

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posted October 18, 2016 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love my space so I by no means need constant contact at all or I'd feel caged. It's not my insecurities. It's the lack of respect. You ask someone a question? You respond. Simple. Even with friendships I'd expect that. Having said that, I guess in this case because it was such a sudden cut off I was very confused. Maybe if I knew him longer and this sort of behaviour I would expect from him then in that case things might be different and I'd let it go. I might be picking up on some unnerving vibes and all that.

Like if you read above about his behaviour just now...even if say they're just friends, he knows that I wouldn't know that. Yet he's put what looks like a declaration of something going on between them for all to see including me. That's not very respectful in my books.

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posted October 18, 2016 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it isn't. It's intentionally instilling jealousy, one hundred percent.

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posted October 18, 2016 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend has broken up with him having learned of his "bad side," finally, for he responded very childishly when she confronted him about knowingly exposing her to whatever STDs he may or may not have...

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