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Ceridwen
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posted October 30, 2016 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obviously that thread is going to be a bit "out there", so it`s probably only interesting to those who are interested in both, Draconic charts and Solar Returns.


Have you looked up yours? When Tr Draco Sun exactly conjuncted your Draco Sun?

This would - probably- indicate the direction of where you are going, where you are pulled to, what you are developing, in the current year (the yearly influences on you, just highlighting the symbolism of the North Node).

Your own North-Star for this year.

HOw did your chart look? What stands out? Does it activate important positions in your Draco (and tropical) natal - I probably would just consider conjunctions in the overlay, though I would use all major aspects in the Solar Return itself.

For me my current Draco Solar Return happened on the 21st september, and right on! The 2 weeks from 17th september to 2nd/ 3rd october, were quite busy, with "strange" things happening. Strange in that they increased my awareness of... things, and seemed to be important steps in the months to come, even though I cannot yet really say WHERE they would lead. Just almost like something was set in motion, or pushing to the surface.


This is my Draco Solar Return


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Ceridwen
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posted October 30, 2016 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And this is the Draco Solar with the Draco natal in the outer circle


Certainly what got my attention first was the Uranus to Eros-Vertex-Sun/Moon-mp overlay, which of course would be appearing as a longer lasting transit, as Uranus moves relatively slowly.

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Faith
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posted October 30, 2016 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So...yesterday was my draco birthday as I was saying

Posting the chart, replying to you, then I will add comments under my chart.

(Later) Comments:

ASC = my sun/moon midpoint, but this is my rectified birth time, so we don't know anything for absolute certain.

Venus-Saturn-Vertex-Valentine makes me wonder anyway.

Also my tropical rectified ASC @ 7 Leo is on the Mars-Pluto midpoint.

I added some of my sun-asteroids, those that are conjunct my sun natally, the ones I like: Hyperborea, Porta Coeli, and Tyche. How interesting I've got Hyperborea on the DSC, Tyche conjunct Jupiter and Porta Coeli on the POF.

Also something told me to check Kaali and there it is on my sun. Significant because Kaali is very close to my NN natally (less than 3°).

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posted October 30, 2016 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What the HECK? You have sun on the IC trine moon, with the moon at the apex of a yod with Venus and Mars? Would you consider that moon as conjunct your NN?

Eros-Pallas on your name in draco SR/natal.

Hehehehe living in an Eros Palace sounds fun....

"Certainly what got my attention first was the Uranus to Eros-Vertex-Sun/Moon-mp overlay, which of course would be appearing as a longer lasting transit, as Uranus moves relatively slowly."

Hmm, and in Scorpio!

Well God help us, ARIES Uranus is actually in draconic Scorpio, no wonder everything is so explicit lately, like on social media, and people sending naked pics of themselves out to the world at an unprecedented rate.

But I'm sorry that's a little off topic and has nothing to do with you I don't think.

If it did I might be a little impressed.

No just kidding

Your natal Draco Vertex is conjunct my SR Vertex conjunct your SR Ceres-Jupiter.

Maybe that's why I have been telling you all this emotional (Cancer) nonsense lately.

We actually have a lot of overlaps across these charts, like your SR BML-Psyche = my tropical Mars, my draco Mercury, and my draco SR Juno. But I guess you did not come here to explore your synastry with me.

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posted October 30, 2016 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is than when the tSUN is conjunct our dSUN? Or you mean the transiting dSUN is conjunct our natal dSUN?

One's an easy calculation; I know my 'Draco birthday'. But the other's gonna be tougher.

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posted October 30, 2016 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
transiting D Sun on natal D Sun.

this year for me that`s been the 21st september, and curiously enough some very interesting things happened on 19th and 23rd september. lol

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posted October 30, 2016 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith,

Wow!
Your Solar Return also has ASC on mid Aqua, and even more closely aligned with my natal Moon - so no surprise here, you inspired me to take a look at those Draco solar returns.


Sun conjunct Kaali is really exact, there might be a lot of energy generated, even weird spiritual experiences, but usually this is just he expression of the intensity of the energy.

How do you feel about Venus-Saturn-Vertex? Some consolidation of relationships/ take on romance in the making?

You also have a New Moon in your Solar Return, or actually shortly before a New Moon, still in the balsamic phase, so I guess there is a a lot about the wrapping up energy, so to speak, reevaluating things, finishing up karma, for preparing a new beginning.


Jupiter - Tyche in 3rd house looks just lovely for gaining insights through communications, but also comes with that ending/ wrapping up energy as it is on the last degree of its sign.


the Draco ASC on your Sun/Moon-mp might bring an illumination about what you need in your life to feel whole.


the Draconic Moon is on your natal tropical SN, which I find to be very interesting, considering this is a nodal chart, so this seems to be about really reevaluating the emotions of the past to be able to move on in a more whole way somehow.


with the stellium of Venus-Saturn-Valentine-Vertex on 2-3 Cancer this seems to be very important, so I think serious (possibly) karmic and committed love will play a great role, maybe even the love for your children, but could also be more romantic.

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posted October 30, 2016 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"ros-Pallas on your name in draco SR/natal."
hehe yes, and even on HIS name in his chart (9 Virgo)


"Hmm, and in Scorpio!"
Yes.
As of now it is on 10-11 Scorpio, the EXACT degree of my Draco Eros and Dr Sun/Moon-mp
"A DROWNING MAN IS RESCUED, BROUGHT BACK TO THE CROWD."

Curiously enough it is near his Maria-asteroid (which is opposing his Chiron on 9 Taurus and conjunct the marriage chart Sun on 12 Scorpio I think).

(BTW in 2015 his Draco Solar Return had Moon on 9 Scorpio. LOL)

Anyway that transiting Draco Uranus is of course ALSO conjunct our tropical composite Uranus on 12 Scorpio, certainly an interesting placement for me.


"like on social media, and people sending naked pics of themselves out to the world at an unprecedented rate."
Who is sending naked pics to you? lol


"If it did I might be a little impressed."
ROFL No, not lately.


This was the last I posted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iidAaShCgEw


And before that shared a meme saying:

"Dear universe, I am totally open to something awesome coming my way!"

"Your natal Draco Vertex is conjunct my SR Vertex conjunct your SR Ceres-Jupiter."
Wow, right?


"Maybe that's why I have been telling you all this emotional (Cancer) nonsense lately."
Yes, I think so. though I don`t think it is nonsense, but my spirit is receptive and my lips are sealed.


"But I guess you did not come here to explore your synastry with me. "
Haha, why not?
I like checking for the overlays between Solar Return and natal chart of another person specifically, as it usually points to who is playing what role in our lives that year.

Well you and me accompany and guide each other in this regard, that one is clear.


BTW P`s Draco solar return not only has a New Moon, but Draco SR Moon is also conjunct his natal Draco Moon by 1 degree,


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posted October 30, 2016 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is P`s current Draco Solar Return (started on 10th january, so he is in the last quarter of it)

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posted October 30, 2016 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you thank you

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the Draco ASC on your Sun/Moon-mp might bring an illumination about what you need in your life to feel whole.

Yes, especially since it coincides with a new moon conjunct my 6 Scorpio Uranus, *and* my progressed sun is @ 27.15 Aqua, square my 25.47 Taurus draco sun.

So that is triple Uranian energy.

And boy do I feel it!

Times like these my Uranus seems to break away from its squares to my Saturn and Mercury and it's felt in a pure state. I wish I always had a non-afflicted Uranus because it's such a clean, focused, powerful energy. It shoots through BS and WILL hit its target. And yes I sense how that kind of energy can damage things!

I just wish I could get this feeling to stay long enough to work with it.

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the Draconic Moon is on your natal tropical SN, which I find to be very interesting, considering this is a nodal chart, so this seems to be about really reevaluating the emotions of the past to be able to move on in a more whole way somehow.

Yes. Really interesting isn't it?

Especially with the Aqua/Uranus/new moon stuff in Scorpio (sign of my NN) with transiting PLUTO exactly on my sign (tropical) and transiting Jupiter on my Pluto!

It kinda makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up to consider how this timing was "foreordained" from...whenever time began...and it's such a clear pattern. And of course, transiting tropical Pallas is at 19 Aqua, conjunct my draconic Pluto, square my nodes, conjunct the Draco SR ASC.

My husband's like "Let's go for a walk" because he wants to talk about casual things.

And I'm thinking, "NO I can't!! My head is too busy exploding!!"

But I guess I must.

Thanks for this thread, I'm so curious to see what comes of it.

ETA: Oh and you posted while I was writing this! Be back later.

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posted October 30, 2016 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
transiting D Sun on natal D Sun.

this year for me that`s been the 21st september, and curiously enough some very interesting things happened on 19th and 23rd september. lol


Mine's Thursday.

Huh! Well, okay then!

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posted October 31, 2016 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
One's an easy calculation; I know my 'Draco birthday'. But the other's gonna be tougher.

If it helps anyone reading...the Draco New Year was September 4th this year.

Transiting draconic sun @ 0° Aries.

I'm so crazy I wonder if that chart has a reigning, reverberating energy.

Mars in that chart (draco new year chart) is at 3 Cancer, on my draco SR Venus stellium. On my heliocentric Mars. Hmm

Anyway

4 Sept, transiting draco sun 0° Aries

4 June, transiting draco sun 0° Cap

4 March, transiting draco sun 0° Libra

^^ very approximately

Just to help people make an estimate of when their draconic birthday was, this past year. If anyone cares

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posted October 31, 2016 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Ceri

I'm up late again, never sleeping right anymore.

P's draco SR moon 2015 on your draco sun-moon MP? I like it but it seems to get buried in this other whole mountain of significant chart-things. But I like it...specially in Scorpio.

My draco sun-moon MP is 27 Gemini I guess? Opposing your sun.

"Who is sending naked pics to you? lol"

Ew

"This was the last I posted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iidAaShCgEw

Great video! I wonder if I might actually learn a little German one of these years.

"Dear universe, I am totally open to something awesome coming my way!"

"Well you and me accompany and guide each other in this regard, that one is clear."

Yes and thank you!! --> back atcha.

"BTW P`s Draco solar return not only has a New Moon, but Draco SR Moon is also conjunct his natal Draco Moon by 1 degree"

I love it. I am wondering again what it means that his draco moon is so tightly (exactly?) conjunct mine. Mine's at 28.11 Cancer if my birth time is right.

"This is P`s current Draco Solar Return"

Your name on his sun where it belongs.

Nice chart geometrically, with the sun-moon trine Jupiter. And hasn't he been in the public eye a lot (1H stellium)? Branching out into podcasts for one thing.

Weird noises from my kitchen at the moment and I'm too scared to go in and see if that was my cat or not. Didn't sound like my cat, it was a strong metal clanking sound.

Do ghosts take Halloween seriously or something?

Anyway...looks like his dr SR Juno in Taurus is on your dr SR Venus @ 14 Taurus.

I'm sleepy but managed to catch that while I'm sure I missed a lot of other things.

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posted October 31, 2016 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith,


"I'm up late again, never sleeping right anymore."
How Uranian!

"P's draco SR moon 2015 on your draco sun-moon MP?"
Yes, indeed.


"y draco sun-moon MP is 27 Gemini I guess? Opposing your sun."
Yes, it is. How interesting!


"I love it. I am wondering again what it means that his draco moon is so tightly (exactly?) conjunct mine. Mine's at 28.11 Cancer if my birth time is right."
You`d probably have an intuitive understanding where you are both going emotionally.

"Your name on his sun where it belongs."
Haha, did not even register. Well it is even closer to his Moon. lol

"Do ghosts take Halloween seriously or something?"
Possibly.

"Anyway...looks like his dr SR Juno in Taurus is on your dr SR Venus @ 14 Taurus."
Yes, pretty exactly.


Well his next Solar return starts on 22nd december 2016, and in that chart he will have

SR Moon 15 Taurus
SR Jupiter 14 Taurus

oppospite

SR Uranus 14 Scorpio
SR Ceres 15 SCorpio


(along our composite MC-IC-axis, and of course for the time being so from december-september next year, it will bring his SR Moon-Jupiter near my SR Venus (on my natal name) ).


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posted November 06, 2016 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good stuff!

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