posted November 14, 2016 12:16 AM            

I had this before, a super long relationship, best friends etc, yet it never really dug too deep. "It feels cold at home" aspect.

posted November 14, 2016 10:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Saturn on the IC.
IC is the root of the roots.

I had this before, a super long relationship, best friends etc, yet it never really dug too deep. "It feels cold at home" aspect.

Moon square Chiron is also too touchy to touch so one prefers to walk around it instead..

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posted November 15, 2016 12:02 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:

The source of your lonilness is his mars/nessus square. This gives him a distant and cold side. Nessus is symbolic of harsh emotional or abusive experiences. The makes me think his syblings or father were cruelly abusive toward him. The mercury/sun midpoint is conjunct Mars,so the will/can not share this. You are not the reason for this loneliness. He has inner demons that close him off to those he loves. With Mars /nessus square, it may be that love was associated with cruelly or pain early in his life,
todd

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posted November 15, 2016 12:57 PM            

Why do you think your synastry is not pretty?

posted November 15, 2016 01:56 PM            

Another thing I'd like to add: you do have some potentionally troublesome stuff in your synastry but the goodies are there too, lots of them. I wouldn't worry too much about this one.

Btw2! (3? )
Uranus aspects are to be expected in a relationship like yours (I mean your age difference) and I'd be surprised not to see at least one hardie. You're probably lucky to have that DW (in comparison to a one way contact).

One more thing (and possibly not last), you have IC ruler opposite Moon DW, hm!

posted November 15, 2016 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:

One more thing (and possibly not last), you have IC ruler opposite Moon DW, hm!

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Literally my reaction after reading that:

I've never noticed that!!! Gawd damn you have a great eye.

posted November 15, 2016 02:27 PM            

Btw, I've pondered some more and decided that your Uranus-Moon opposition could also contribute to your unpleasant feeling. Especially since you've said you don't always find him icy. As we all know Uranus is the hot-and-cold planet.

posted November 27, 2016 06:11 AM            

I don't know his mom's birth data, I forgot it when he told me once, I regret it but I will know one day.

posted December 09, 2016 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
That is amazing Athenia, look at those angles.. have I ever seen them more aligned? No not.
And That Sun & Moon / Venus-Moon / Sat-node .... wow.

I don't know his mom's birth data, I forgot it when he told me once, I regret it but I will know one day.

My parents had both their Asc at 27-28 Virgo, mine also has a late Virgo asc (27) ;D
That's indeed so funny. And you also have haha.. btw, I noticed your chart looks a lot like his' .. Sun-Taurus / Moon aqua (10'**) / Asc late Virgo, even a pluto/moon & Venus/Uranus square brrr

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posted December 09, 2016 09:50 PM            

To answer the question why sometimes you feel lonely...

There is a lot of open air in this composite and this synastry. The luminaries do not aspect each other in synastry; the composite sun makes it strongest aspects with two cold places, the Cap MC and Saturn.

There is a lot of HIM here, because his sun is on the composite MC (yes?) with his sun's ruler on the composite IC, so it's almost like he is the power, his energy dominates that home/public axis by default. His DSC conjunct composite ASC (I think?)...His sun and Mars form a grand earth trine with the composite sun. Overall it looks to me like he connects with the composite much more strongly than you do. Which means that the relationship could be very important to him but also it sidelines you, in a way. Which he will not like (Libra NN) and will have to make deliberate effort to rectify. Your Venus (ruler of his NN) on his SN falls in his 6H and indicates that he needs to consciously apply himself to loving you and not talking your affection for granted. The composite stellium in Virgo helps strengthen that focus on service and doing the legwork to make a relationship worthwhile.

Your SN in Leo conjunct his MC shows how you might deal with occasional situations of being overshadowed. It calls on you to remember how you shine in your own right no matter what's happening around you. And your moon conjunct your NN in the 5H indicates that you know you'll eventually shine from being self-possessed and just different from others. To what extent can he handle your independent brilliance? I can see that emerging as a theme. Is he strong enough to let you be the focal point often enough?

His Chiron conjunct your moon shows how he could be pained by your Aqua autonomy and even, I would guess, intimidated by your talent, as it seems to hint at a make-or-break situation: if he cannot figure out how to co-shine with you successfully, you might be gone.

(Always ALWAYS take me a huge grain of salt, please!)

Composite Cancer moon in the 4H is the apex of a t-square with Chiron and Uranus. This is part of the theme where his Cap moon is conjunct your Uranus, overlaying his 4H (house of the moon.) And it is thematically attached to your having an Aquarius moon...in that way, the relationship is more about you.

And of course, your Chiron is in Cancer, opposing Uranus, yes? More and more of this moon-Chiron-Uranus theme. I see it as emotional instability along with a heartfelt desire to somehow channel that into a mutual understanding for the fact that "this is just how we are!" Learning to build the "we."

Your Cap Uranus mirroring his 10H Uranus (near your SN), that supplies some like-mindedness in your interests and more unusual goals.

Sooo...

Why do you not feel like you belong in his home? Perhaps it's just up to you to decide the impact you want to have there? Because your 5H NN is conjunct his IC. His IC is a receptive spot, a 5H NN is a constructive and proactive placement. Put that together and it's almost like the question is hanging in the air in his home: "So what ARE you going to do with my living space? How are you going to fit with my family?" You might sense that it would be a little too groundbreaking if you unleashed your whole self there. Even though his Aqua IC feels okay with it, his 4H Chiron is squeamish.

His Saturn on your IC might make you feel inhibited from actually showcasing all your homey talents (your Cancer Jupiter your dispositing Sag IC if I'm seeing correctly.)

And there seems to be this whole blur about togetherness because his 12H Libra NN squares his sun and your 4H Neptune. The 8H composite NN in Sag is widely conjunct Neptune and tightly square Pisces Jupiter which is conjunct Juno. Composite Neptune squares Venus.

So I'm really not sure what's going on. (?) I think I'd be looking at the draconic charts and midpoints next for more clues.

The Saturn-IC connections have already shown themselves to be supportive of relationship longevity (you've known him a long time.) Venus conjunct Saturn synastry is just another binding force. The numerous moon/IC/Cancer highlights show an emotional bond, and the fusion of moon-Uranus all over the place here shows how perhaps there are two sides of a coin where excitement comes with a price of instability.

I honestly can't make much sense of what's happening but the Mars-Mars sextile and the fact that you both have earth suns indicates to me that there is just a lot of comfort here, with peaks and valleys over that baseline of simple comfort. I'm not sure this is a recipe for long-term happiness but everything comes together thematically to show a sense of fatedness that makes you both put in the effort for each other.

Again...I'm an amateur...take me lightly.

posted December 10, 2016 12:13 PM            

But this is why I'm not a real astrologer:

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Granted this is the Davidson.. I always feel the need to clarify that just in case it matters to some.

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I missed that. And I don't know exactly how I should have tweaked the reading differently for Davison. Perhaps it's unncessary and I would have said all the same things, but this is to be taken in more of a long-term context, as you said.

I remain curious about the composite but won't bug you.

The draconic synastry is pretty mind-blowing, especially after all the Cancer connections I mentioned above... to see your draconic sun conjunct his IC in Cancer there, and his own draconic sun on the Gem-Cancer Cusp...I'm a little flabbergasted (and glad I asked for this chart!)

So it looks all the more fated. And then we were talking about that starkness at home, the Saturn-IC, NN-IC...here we have PLUTO-IC. So much IC activation across the charts!

I love your draconic Aries moon conjunct his Pallas-Juno.

His draconic stellium in Gemini reiterating his tropical 3H sun and moon, and the Davison 6H stellium (still Mercury-ruled!). I love that.

I love making a patchwork across the charts, matching degrees up and looking at the layering on those degrees, but sometimes it gets confusing and overwhelming to follow. (Yes I've tried presenting a reading like that before, and I almost felt bad it was so monstrously long.) Not sure if it's worth it, to even attempt that kind of reading.

I'm sure I'm missing a lot!

But anyway, thank you very much for all the feedback, it's a fascinating story, and so fun if I ever pick up actual circumstances just by looking at the charts. Makes me feel like I'm getting stronger in my ability to see things.

Also I just love how you talk about your relationship's strong points and assets, especially since his sun is conjunct mine, and I'm taking vicarious credit for whatever he's doing right. Only half kidding! LOL

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I really see my relationship in a new light after your post.

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If so, that makes me really happy.