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Ami Anne
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posted November 29, 2016 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People seemed to like the last article, so I will continue as long as you want. Give me suggestions and I will add them, too.

1. Moon Oppose Saturn

Saturn is a tricky fellow in synastry. Saturn in trine and sextile makes for a wonderful bonding glue to the relationship. Saturn in conjunction and hard aspects (opposition and square) may make for a stifling, prison kind of vibe i.e if I don’t get away from this person, I am going to go insane. Saturn in hard aspect( and conjunction seems to be a hard aspect with Saturn) can make the planet person feel very badly about himself. Imagine a parent who criticizes a child because the child got a 90% on a test and not 100%. That kind of FEELING is similar to the Saturn of one person in hard aspect to your chart. Hence, with Moon oppose Saturn, the Saturn person may be too critical of the Moon person. The Moon person may lose some of his confidence. This can be very painful to the Moon person. It can be frustrating to the Saturn person, too.

2. Apophis ( 99942) Conjunct the Any Angle(ASC, IC, DSC,MC) or Personal Planet (Sun, Moon, Mars Venus,Mercury)
Aphophis is related to destruction, such as in sudden earth quakes. I find that these “disaster” asteroids truly play out as one may imagine i.e destruction to the planet/angle person at the hands of the Apophis person. Please, check out your own synastry charts for these asteroids. Better to be warned beforehand than to find out after marriage *sigh*

3. Melpomeme( tragedy)(18)Conjunct the Any Angle(ASC, IC, DSC,MC) or Personal Planet (Sun, Moon, Mars Venus,Mercury
This asteroid seems to be tragedy that comes to others in one’s life. I cannot say that it will not come to the native, himself. I have not seen this asteroid play out enough. However, bad things seem to happen in the world of the person, rather than to his own body. Again, please check this one out on all of your syastry charts, including parents, siblings and friends. Let’s learn together!

4. Uranus Conjunct the Sun
Uranus is too powerful in a close conjunction. The Uranus person is like a live electrical wire. Think of living with the Energizer Bunny—24/7. NOT. The Uranus person will bring brilliance and innovation to the Sun person. The Uranus person will shake up the foundation of the Sun person. This can be very good. We, all, need that. However, in a marriage, it would be too much, in my opinion.

5. Uranus Oppose the Sun
I have been in a long term relationship in which I was the Uranus. I was the wild, out of the box one. My Uranus is in the tenth house, so I am only wild in my career and my thinking. However, the relationship was a struggle in that I wanted to home school, for example. He thought it was ridiculous. I did not want to vaccinate. He thought it was heresy. I wanted to give birth at home. He thought that was heresy. Hence, there was a struggle. However, if the Moons are compatible, it can be overcome. However, there will, always, be the underlying tension between Uranus( the rebel) and the Sun( the anti rebel)

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posted November 29, 2016 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for erickaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never heard of asteroid apophis. But mine is conjunct a guy I like Mercury ... should I be worried? Never been the type to worry over bad synastry lol. But now I'm bitting my finger nails lol.

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posted November 29, 2016 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See how it plays out. The asteroids need us to research them cuz they are newcomers, my FRiend.

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posted November 29, 2016 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AwakenSky16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think something outside had prevent a continuity of the strong relationship that had started (but I do not know) but also the timing ... Maybe is it better with all its aspects of the asteroids here? (I put great orb too)
also : my saturn opp. his moon (3°a)/his uranus conj. my sun (9°a)
I'm waiting for your thoughts if you can

In synastry :
Apophis :
-his conjunct mine(3°a) in pisce
-DW square venus (1°a/s)

Melpomene :
-Square his sun (0°s), moon and saturn (2°s)

Thank a lot Amy for all these new asteroid, I like it soooo !


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posted November 29, 2016 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you choose 2, I will help, my Friend. I couldn't do all those lol

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posted November 29, 2016 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would prefer to do natal than transits, too xxx

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posted November 29, 2016 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is Moon conjunt Saturn always bad? I've read where people on here say it's bonding. I have this aspect with someone and I'm Saturn. I'll admit there are times when I have been critical towards them I try not to be anymore though. I do care a lot about this person and instead of being critical. I just try to help and be there for them if they need me.

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posted November 29, 2016 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would imagine that 2, and 3 would have to be in very close aspect to the angles or personal planets in order to hold any type of significance in synastry. Ami...what have you found on your research related to these in that respect?

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posted November 29, 2016 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by llewsacm:
I would imagine that 2, and 3 would have to be in very close aspect to the angles or personal planets in order to hold any type of significance in synastry. Ami...what have you found on your research related to these in that respect?


VERY close,my Friend. I fudge asteroids in conjunction to 3 degrees, but some astrologers only accept exact, so you can see how small the orb has to be.

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posted November 29, 2016 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Is Moon conjunt Saturn always bad? I've read where people on here say it's bonding. I have this aspect with someone and I'm Saturn. I'll admit there are times when I have been critical towards them I try not to be anymore though. I do care a lot about this person and instead of being critical. I just try to help and be there for them if they need me.

In dating, this would not be an issue, but in marriage, I think it would.

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posted November 29, 2016 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why would it be a issue in marriage?
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
In dating, this would not be an issue, but in marriage, I think it would.



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posted November 30, 2016 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AwakenSky16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If you choose 2, I will help, my Friend. I couldn't do all those lol

Thank you very much Ami. Always Always ready for your readings (Without being afraid !)

So I choose those one :

-Apophis DW carré venus (1 ° a / s)
-My Melpomene Square son soleil (0 ° s)

I could tell you my return on it

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posted November 30, 2016 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, you mean Venus conjunct Aphophis, my Friend?

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posted November 30, 2016 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Once people get married, they let down their guards. The Saturn conjunctions to personal. planets like the Moon may result in the Saturn person being too critical of the Moon person.

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posted November 30, 2016 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the Venus, there may be some kind of destruction in or of the relationship.

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posted November 30, 2016 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the Meolopene(sp), the Melopene person may bring a tragedy that effects the Sun person in some way that is hidden.

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posted November 30, 2016 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you guys want the Part 1, I will stick it up!

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posted November 30, 2016 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AwakenSky16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
So, you mean Venus conjunct Aphophis, my Friend?

Yes do this : Apophise conj.venus and Melpomene conj.sun.

It isn't really important to learn... Hard aspects anyway : here Squares but take it for conjunction (it's all good for me!)

Sorry, tiredness undoubtedly leads to a lack of follow-up of your instructions: D

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posted November 30, 2016 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Conjunctions can be hard aspects with certain things like Aphophis and even Saturn and Uranus.

Don't apologize. I love working with you.

You are a doll!

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posted November 30, 2016 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AwakenSky16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well, Conjunctions can be hard aspects with certain things like Aphophis and even Saturn and Uranus.

Don't apologize. I love working with you.

You are a doll!


Thank you Ami, love the time you give to us here and participate for you

"If you guys want the Part 1, I will stick it up!" YES PLEASE

OOOh really tired here,I wrote :

"It isn't really important to learn... Hard aspects anyway : here Squares but take it for conjunction (it's all good for me!)"

But I wanted to write :
"It is really important to learn..." so never mind if it isn't about square, conj. is good the same!

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posted November 30, 2016 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AwakenSky16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
With the Venus, there may be some kind of destruction in or of the relationship.
With the Meolopene(sp), the Melopene person may bring a tragedy that effects the Sun person in some way that is hidden.

OK... Relation was intense and very spiritually connected... But we must stop before something happened because it was impossible to stay in this relation in the same way we beginning. We had to break without talk about separation, because it was too difficult, and now stay away from each other. It's a very difficult thing to "choice" and provocated a break even if we don't want to. Sacrifice all is good and important for you because there is not good issue is very difficult to do.

Ami, if you are interested, in synastry we have also DW conj. Angel with apophis exactly : So Angel conj.Angel, Apothis conj.Apophis and Angel conj.apophis DW and so angel/apophise square venus.
I think it sounds like what I told you above (for take care, make a painful choice). But it's just a personnal interpretation

"the Melopene person may bring a tragedy that effects the Sun person in some way that is hidden."
Could you explain a little more your thinking ?

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posted November 30, 2016 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Ami, love the time you give to us here and participate for you

I quoted this cuz it means so much to me. Thank you so much! Working with people like you makes my love of Astrology all the more enjoyable

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posted November 30, 2016 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About the same asteroids conjunct each other, that could be for people born close in time.


About Melopene(sp)

I have not had much experience with it. so this would be from looking at things from an astrological perspective but not seeing enough charts to see the personal experience.

The square can make things hard to access so the Melop. person may bring things that cause tragedy to the Sun person but it may not be obvious.

let me think of an example. OK--the Melopeme person may have a STD and he may not know and so he infects the Sun person, so the tragedy was not obvious but it was something that made a huge impact from which it was hard for the Sun person to extricate himself.

Maybe, this example was not good.

I have not seen it in square, so am just postulating.

I have seen it in conjunction in synastry, in which one partner caused a great loss of money to the other.

The asteroids take a lot of time to really understand in how the manifest in a practical way, my dear Friend.

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posted November 30, 2016 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun cj Uranus... I know a couple w this aspect, they have been together more that 30 years. He is Uranus, she is sun. He flirts all the time w other women, so i dont know stable their life it really is... but they have a big family.

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posted November 30, 2016 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how close is the aspect?

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