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ILovePoems
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posted December 04, 2016 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't post the chart yet but just wondering. I know my birth time but I don't know his birth time. Will I still be able to find out any information may be from his side? I usually just use my tarot cards (etc) but I thought charts give more information but without the birth time, that will be hard right?

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posted December 04, 2016 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump* anyone? This post getting lost quick lol

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posted December 04, 2016 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should still post your charts, it is possible to get a good idea of how you relate to one another without his correct birth time.

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posted December 04, 2016 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay. I'll try to do that then. also if anyone looks at this chart, let me know if I need to make some changes, dont know too much about charts. but what I'm trying to understand is that why people say me and him connect so easily.. and yes we are both virgo's but it seems someone people think we fit and I'm trying to figure out what they mean. When I first met him (unexpectedly), he was protective and caring .. I never really felt that way before a comfortable feeling, i dont think I ever felt that way before. I felt safe and comfortable.. he is on the outside (red) and I'm on the inside. (blue)

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posted December 05, 2016 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last bump. And that I can exchange by using my tarot cards or oracle, lenormand, just need someone to look at the chart if anyone can I know reading charts takes a lot so I want to be fair with other people.

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posted December 05, 2016 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, ILP, how are you? Since there is a lot to say about an interaction, perhaps you can say what you would like to know? As a quick view, I would say that there is an ageless layer to your interaction (despite the age difference which seems to be over 30 years), which means it is likely together you forget about this difference and get immersed into an out-of-time soul connection.

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posted December 05, 2016 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi! I'm okay, you? Thanks Leeloo for commenting.. Well I wanted to figure out why people say "we fit together" it's hard to explain from my side, but I don't understand why people think that? I noticed we have some things in common.. most likely because we are virgos.. even thought I dont believe in the "all virgos act this way".. still trying to learn though.

And yeah there is an age difference lol.. I know it's kinda bad.. I guess.

but what do you mean by this? is this bad? "there is an ageless layer to your interaction (despite the age difference which seems to be over 30 years), which means it is likely together you forget about this difference and get immersed into an out-of-time soul connection."

ps. i don't know his birth time so I hope that is okay.

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posted December 05, 2016 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury conjunct Mercury. Very nice. Minds are very compatible

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posted December 05, 2016 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AwakenSky16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ILovePoems : " I know reading charts takes a lot so I want to be fair with other people. "

I can try for you but I'm rather novice, astrology still asks me a lot of work. I try to find the aspects here that seem important to me and try an intuitive and research. I would never be a professional just to do it because I like it.
(I did it thinking that the time of birth of him was good ... So forget about his houses and rulers)
So here's what I can observe (others who read, please tell me if I'm wrong, I just want to try a little and help here): It lacks degrees for more precision though ... :

- Your pluto sextile his moon (Your bond is strong and focused)
- your Pluto trine his venus (attraction, fascination, deep bond, emotional fulfillment)
- your Asc / venus / chiron sextile his mercury / MC (you can encourage and support him in his career, in the way he expresses himself socially)
- Your MC conj. His Venus / mars DW (MC / venus) (supports and encourages each other in your careers ... do you work together?)
- Your NN conj. His sun / pluto (feeling of going somewhere together, desire for growth, progress together, stimulating aspect)
- Your ASc conj. his mars (you feel a great attraction for him)
- Your sun trine his jupiter (pleasure together, trust and indulgence)
- Your mercury conj. His (feel good in communication between you both)
- His moon trine your uranus / Jupiter / neptune (you bring a stimulation, expansivity, joy, stimulation, relationship away from boredom, good intuitive understanding between you)
- Your 7th ruler venus sextile his 8th ruler mercury
- His 7th ruler venus conj. Your MC and opp your neptune 5th ruler (there seems to be a strong risk of idealizing him on you ...
Hoping not to have red and blue inverted by doing it)

I think he can have a great attraction and effect on you... ?

Is there something secret / hidden, that can't only be seen from others in your relationship: His moon in your 12th, your asc in his 12th that contains his 5th ruler.
(age ?)
If someone can help supplement also for learning (Leeloo, rainy... will do this better than me)

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posted December 05, 2016 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Mercury conjunct Mercury. Very nice. Minds are very compatible


I'm thinking that is good lol I guess that is one reason me and him kinda fits together. thank you.

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posted December 05, 2016 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi! Thank you for your reply. Beginner or non beginner, I still appreciate you trying to help.

So I'm thinking that if I did had his birth time, it would be a very big help?.. I wish it was easy to ask that xD

I can probably give you some feedback on what you got on a few.

I can say that yes we do have a bond.

when you said this "your Pluto trine his venus (attraction, fascination, deep bond, emotional fulfillment)", are you saying it for the both of us or just one of us? Either way I think you mean both

You're right I can encourage him with his career.

when you said this " (supports and encourages each other in your careers ... do you work together?)" I had someone asked that before lol but no we don't work together, but I can totally see that.

"(feeling of going somewhere together, desire for growth, progress together, stimulating aspect)" you're right about this.

"(you feel a great attraction for him)" yes I feel attracted to him.. I try not to though.

can you explain this one though if you can? "Your 7th ruler venus sextile his 8th ruler mercury"

I'm not sure what you mean by this? are you saying like there is some sorta of spiritual link? That's mostly what I can think of this. "Is there something secret / hidden, that can only be seen from others in your relationship: His moon in your 12th, your asc in his 12th that contains his 5th ruler.
(age ?)"


Thank you very much for this. please tag me on the readings forum to get a reading's of your choice.

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posted December 05, 2016 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Pluto/ Saturn square could be a hard one. The Pluto may pressure the Satan person and the Saturn person may butt him by turning cold. These 2 planets do not do well in hard aspect cuz both are strong in different ways and the hard aspect can be a classic power play, my Friend.

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posted December 05, 2016 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The Pluto/ Saturn square could be a hard one. The Pluto may pressure the Satan person and the Saturn person may butt him by turning cold. These 2 planets do not do well in hard aspect cuz both are strong in different ways and the hard aspect can be a classic power play, my Friend.


Can you explain that? I'm not sure what that means. Is that very bad? I don't know too much charts, so my apologies for asking.

Just trying to figure out why we have this connection.. kinda mysterious.

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posted December 05, 2016 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AwakenSky16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
AwakenSky16

"Hi! Thank you for your reply. Beginner or non beginner, I still appreciate you trying" to help.
- You're welcome
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So I'm thinking that if I did had his birth time, it would be a very big help?.. I wish it was easy to ask that xD"
- I think it's better to explore reciprocity, but the aspects are still interesting.

"I can probably give you some feedback on what you got on a few.
I can say that yes we do have a bond.
when you said this "your Pluto trine his venus (attraction, fascination, deep bond, emotional fulfillment)", are you saying it for the both of us or just one of us? Either way I think you mean both"
-Yes but pluto is often more than other planet (venus, moon, mars), pluto carries more intensity, (but it would probably also study the natal chart ...)

"can you explain this one though if you can? "Your 7th ruler venus sextile his 8th ruler mercury"
-No sorry, I will not risk it ... You do not know his birth time so his house 8th may not be correct and therefore the ruler either ...

"I'm not sure what you mean by this? are you saying like there is some sorta of spiritual link? That's mostly what I can think of this. "Is there something secret / hidden, that can only be seen from others in your relationship: His moon in your 12th, your asc in his 12th that contains his 5th ruler.
(age ?)"
- Sorry It's a mistake from me. There can be an initial attraction but lack of confidence can settle with the impression that something is hidden or not said. In general the moon feels like that with the house ...
Forget all aspect with his cups because birth time isn't right.
- I prefer to leave reading for connections of souls to leeloo, auby, faith...
Just that : if the age difference is important and an attraction exists as well as a real relationship this may be one and so, age no longer counts for people but the relationship may have to stay secret far from the Judgment of others.

Remember here that these are only separate aspects, even if they are interesting everything is more "complicated", "subtle". It would take a good thorough reading for real details on how all this really feels.

"Thank you very much for this. please tag me on the readings forum to get a reading's of your choice. "
- I haven't done it for but it could be interesting and fine ... thank you very much


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posted December 05, 2016 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, the square is a thwart, like a tug of war. Picture a dog with a chew toy and you have one half and he has the other

The square is like that.

The Pluto is very strong. He is primal power.

The Saturn is very disciplined and responsible.

These two could be locked in a kind of stuck tug of war together.

It is just one aspect.

For me to do w hole Comp and give an an opinion would take several hours.

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posted December 05, 2016 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well, the square is a thwart, like a tug of war. Picture a dog with a chew toy and you have one half and he has the other

The square is like that.

The Pluto is very strong. He is primal power.

The Saturn is very disciplined and responsible.

These two could be locked in a kind of stuck tug of war together.

It is just one aspect.

For me to do w hole Comp and give an an opinion would take several hours.


ah well no worries.. I wish I had his birth time, so I can figure out how this and that happened that lead us to meet each other stuff.. especially him.


I appreciate your help, feel free to ask me any questions in the readings forum.

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posted December 05, 2016 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AwakenSky16

Well I do want to point out one thing about the 12th house.. our connection is mysterious, and can be secretive (I think). I appreciate your help!

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posted December 05, 2016 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are most welcome, my Friend!

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posted December 05, 2016 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AwakenSky16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
AwakenSky16

Well I do want to point out one thing about the 12th house.. our connection is mysterious, and can be secretive (I think). I appreciate your help!


Yes, maybe because Your ruler 12th is venus and your venus conj. your asc trine his mercury (conj.his MC and uranus)... Also, contact NN and NS with planets can make special feeling (like fated). You have NN conj his Sun. In my last relationship I had his NN conj. my asc/NS and His NS conj. my moon/NN, One aspect among others fated in our synastry.

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posted December 05, 2016 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, maybe because Your ruler 12th is venus and your venus conj. your asc trine his mercury (conj.his MC and uranus)... Also, contact NN and NS with planets can make special feeling (like fated). You have NN conj his Sun. In my last relationship I had his NN conj. my asc/NS and His NS conj. my moon/NN, One aspect among others fated in our synastry.

Thanks! So you're kinda saying that it's like fate? I thought it was a reason why me and him connected unexpectedly.

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posted December 06, 2016 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*final bump* I appreciate everyone's help.

If anyone else can give me more information on the 12th house.

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posted December 06, 2016 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
*final bump* I appreciate everyone's help.

If anyone else can give me more information on the 12th house.


I have a lot of articles on the 12th House

Do you want general info for natal or info on synastry?

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posted December 06, 2016 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have YOUR time right but not his? if so, you would not know where his moon was cuz the moon changes during the day. If his moon overlay your 12th--it is a deep connection, like incredible!

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posted December 06, 2016 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw, well I only have my birth time. I thought the 12th house would make sense in some way because our connection is mysterious and it's like magic. Not sure how to explain it.

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posted December 07, 2016 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
Hi! I'm okay, you? Thanks Leeloo for commenting.. Well I wanted to figure out why people say "we fit together" it's hard to explain from my side, but I don't understand why people think that? I noticed we have some things in common.. most likely because we are virgos.. even thought I dont believe in the "all virgos act this way".. still trying to learn though.

And yeah there is an age difference lol.. I know it's kinda bad.. I guess.

but what do you mean by this? is this bad? "there is an ageless layer to your interaction (despite the age difference which seems to be over 30 years), which means it is likely together you forget about this difference and get immersed into an out-of-time soul connection."

ps. i don't know his birth time so I hope that is okay.


Hi I meant to say it feels you can be very good friends, first and foremost, and overcome the age difference.

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