posted December 08, 2016 10:56 AM            

But this one, it overpowers all my defence mechanisms and destroys all ideas I had held before. It's fated, powerful, mutual, and also messy and painful - not because of mistreatment between us, but because we naturally become vulnerable with each other and so activate our wounds and fears.

Long story short:
We met under very unusual circumstances.
Instant psychic connection.
Our interactions have been intensifying, and have led to massive transformation and realisations in both of us.
Significant external challenges in being together.
...Because of which one of us has been seriously considering uprooting their entire life in order to be with the other.
(I know it sounds like it, but no, neither of us is married or in a relationship with someone else.)

I welcome your thoughts. They will be deeply appreciated.

Please, don't quote this post or the images in it.

Composite and synastry below.
I'm on the inside, he's on the outside.
Both birth times are correct.

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posted December 08, 2016 11:51 AM            

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posted December 08, 2016 12:29 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:

Both birth times are correct.

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posted December 08, 2016 01:43 PM            

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posted December 08, 2016 02:20 PM            

First off I'm happy for you both that you found so much in each other.

Now that Ami's mentioned his moon, I'm curious if it's sextile your Neptune? Or even your sun? I use a 4° orb for sextiles. Pisces moon sextile Cap Neptune looks good.

There are so many positive things to say about this synastry. It looks like your sun-moon midpoints might be conjunct, in Pisces? I think that might account for some psychic overlapping, and the good and bad consequences of it. Of course, his sun on your NN in Pisces is another indicator of this otherwordly type of connection. And your own sun is conjunct Neptune, mirroring his Pisces sun. AND his Psyche is conjunct your Vertex...is his moon on your Avx?

There is a lot to say about midpoints here, actually. Your moon on his Venus-Mars midpoint in Taurus just looks like love, personified!

Also, you have composite IC on the Venus-Saturn midpoint...is that conjunct his sun?

Composite sun conjunct your Venus-ASC?

So much good here, but of course, some squares, too. Without squares it would seem the is nothing to work out, no friction with which to gain traction as you evolve uphill...

Mars square Uranus-Mercury is the one I wonder about. Especially with Mars-Mercury in the 3H, in electric Aquarius. You both may have a tendency to keep the peace and just go along with things, but the way your Mercury is charged, it will probably force you to place more emphasis on careful communication. And you may just come up with some genius results. It sounds like you already have.

However it could get exhausting sometimes, just the Uranian "charge" that may accumulate from repeated experiences of sudden misunderstanding. The fact that you have Mercury square Mercury synastry reiterates that theme.

The composite sun square Mercury-ruled 6H Chiron also points to the theme of healing/crisis regarding communication, perhaps over seemingly small matters (because Virgo is so detail-oriented).

Composite Chiron conjunct your moon....you may feel sometimes that it depends on you to hold the relationship together and fix things and call upon all your Taurean traits in order to achieve that. Like staying calm and being forgiving even when he perhaps would rather argue (Aries Mercury!) and doesn't want you to be calm.

However, again, because your moon is on his Venus-Mars midpoint...well I just don't know. He might help you and you may not have to carry the moon-Chiron burden alone.

His Venus-Mars and Saturn in the deep 8H, embracing your 3H moon, it may become like a psychic exchange where he supplies depth and your moon thrills at the opportunity to articulate just as much as he supplies to you, and he in turn will be grateful insofar as he feels you are accurately seeing him or sincerely trying.

Really I just love the mix of earth and water with the luminaries here, as I've had this before in synastry and it was beautiful...

His Saturn on your IC, I wonder how that feels to you? Does it seem like you two are bound by a mission to communicate a lot and not stop till it's worked out? Because you have Saturn-IC synastry and Saturn near the IC in composite, I'm thinking, this does look long term, or serious at least.

So many things to discuss. Obviously this relationship is important to you, and even if you didn't say it was, most of us would probably guess that just by looking at the charts. Especially with his sun on your NN. Anytime I see that in synastry, I take notice.

With the composite NN conjunct Jupiter, it does look like a potentially happy relationship to me overall, especially since his Jupiter is conjunct your sun.

I don't claim to be a real astrologer and all of this is just an exploration of what I see, and an inquiry about how the charts match your experience.

posted December 08, 2016 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Technically the composite Moon makes a trine to the ASC at a 0 degree orb and also makes a semi-sextile to Saturn at 5 degrees. Not bad aspects to have considering the birth times are correct.

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I don't think the relationship could sustain on these few moon aspects in synastry and in the Comp, there are none.

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posted December 09, 2016 04:14 AM            

I don't know why astro.com doesn't draw an aspect line to his Moon, but it sextiles my Sun by 5 degrees and my Neptune by 4. I know people tend to keep orbs very tight on LL, but when luminaries are involved, 5 degrees might be a valid aspect?

I'm pretty sure his Moon is feeling the energy of my entire 11H stellium, since its midpoint is at 2-3 Cap, and his Moon is at 3 Pisces. I'm not saying this as a positive thing, his Moon forms a t-square with his Neptune and Saturn, and is already under a lot of pressure, and I can tell he experiences my Stellium as very intense, and a little perplexing (especially its 11H manifestation).

soren
Thank you so much for your intriguing interpretation. I was unfamiliar with the method of house synastry which you're using! And yes, his Sun and Moon "nestled" between my Sun-Moon trine is indeed powerful and colours a lot of the dynamic in our relationship.

posted December 09, 2016 04:45 AM            

THANK YOU for this mind-blowing analysis! You left me speechless. You say you "don't claim to be a real astrologer" but your Pisces Moon intuition and your Cap Sun analytical skills make for a very powerful combination!

In short, you are spot on about basically everything.

His Moon is at 3 Pisces.
My Sun at 8 Capricorn.
My Neptune at 7 Capricorn.

The astrology midpoint calculators put my Sun-Moon midpoint at 10 Virgo, and his at 13 Pisces. So a relatively wide opposition? No idea if this counts.

Yes, his Sun on my NN was part of the immediate "draw" I felt. I've had many, many encounters (in all kinds of "relationships", including relatives, friends, non-friends) with their Sun or Moon on my NN, and it's very familiar energy (though this time it's much more intense, as if all these encounters were a "preparation"). And his Pluto on my SN contributes a lot. In my observations and experience, Pluto-SN is one of the most intense aspects in synastry.

His Moon at 3 Pisces conjuncts (widely?) my Avx at 7 Pisces.

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Originally posted by Faith:

Also, you have composite IC on the Venus-Saturn midpoint...is that conjunct his sun?

Composite sun conjunct your Venus-ASC?

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Yes and yes Thanks for highlighting these details, I hadn't noticed them!

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Originally posted by Faith:

Mars square Uranus-Mercury is the one I wonder about. Especially with Mars-Mercury in the 3H, in electric Aquarius. You both may have a tendency to keep the peace and just go along with things, but the way your Mercury is charged, it will probably force you to place more emphasis on careful communication. And you may just come up with some genius results. It sounds like you already have.

However it could get exhausting sometimes, just the Uranian "charge" that may accumulate from repeated experiences of sudden misunderstanding. The fact that you have Mercury square Mercury synastry reiterates that theme.

The composite sun square Mercury-ruled 6H Chiron also points to the theme of healing/crisis regarding communication, perhaps over seemingly small matters (because Virgo is so detail-oriented).

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Wow, just wow. Our Mercury square in synastry was one of the first thing I noticed, but the Uranus influence in the composite adds so much more context and depth. Thank you!!

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Originally posted by Faith:

Composite Chiron conjunct your moon....you may feel sometimes that it depends on you to hold the relationship together and fix things and call upon all your Taurean traits in order to achieve that. Like staying calm and being forgiving even when he perhaps would rather argue (Aries Mercury!) and doesn't want you to be calm.

However, again, because your moon is on his Venus-Mars midpoint...well I just don't know. He might help you and you may not have to carry the moon-Chiron burden alone.

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This also shed so much light for me. Thank you again!
Yes, he's genuinely perplexed by my "calmness".

Great insight about his 8H Venus and Mars embracing my Moon. You're incredibly intuitive, Faith!

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Originally posted by Faith:
Really I just love the mix of earth and water with the luminaries here, as I've had this before in synastry and it was beautiful...

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It is a beautiful and natural mix, and you also carry this energy inside you with your Pisces Moon and Capricorn Sun

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Originally posted by Faith:
His Saturn on your IC, I wonder how that feels to you? Does it seem like you two are bound by a mission to communicate a lot and not stop till it's worked out? Because you have Saturn-IC synastry and Saturn near the IC in composite, I'm thinking, this does look long term, or serious at least.

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[Editing out the longer version now that you saw it, in short: you're absolutely right]
I can see Saturn making this long-term, but also throwing challenges and delays our way in the process.

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Originally posted by Faith:
Especially with his sun on your NN. Anytime I see that in synastry, I take notice.

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Me too! It's very powerful.

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Originally posted by Faith:
With the composite NN conjunct Jupiter, it does look like a potentially happy relationship to me overall, especially since his Jupiter is conjunct your sun.

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Thank you for that.
Right now Jupiter is transiting my 8H and his 1H, so hopefully it brings us good fortune

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Originally posted by Faith:

Good luck

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posted December 09, 2016 06:18 AM            

Wow! It's eerie how accurate your interpretation of our dynamic is!

Thank you so much!

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Originally posted by todd:

So I would venture to say it was this mental psychic connection that first drew you together.

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Yes, spot on.

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Originally posted by todd:

This experience overwhelms your personalities because the Neptune/uranus midpoint is conjunct the composite ascendant and the mars/venus midpoint is square the ascendant and the neptune/uranus midpoint. Overwhelming spiritual connection.

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Yes, which is part of the reason a lot of fears are emerging.

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Originally posted by todd:
This entire pattern of ascendant/neptune/uranus/mars/venus is often problematic because it bodes such
a intense, sexual, spiritual and idealistic relationship that is too divorced from the reality of real life .

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Interesting! This might account for the external challenges we're facing.

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Originally posted by todd:

But here the mars /Venus midpoint is conjunct the Saturn/node midpoint which can be interpreted as commitment within the bounds of a "paranormal " or "alternate" reality.

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Hm! Intriguing! I'll reflect on that.

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Originally posted by todd:

The venus/saturn midpoint is conjunct the nadir which indicates there is a deep devotion and dependability to each other .I dare say, this aspect could ground the relationship so that the rarefied ethereal connection would not dissipate when the demands of reality are interjected into relationship.

And finally, the moon/sun midpoint is conjunct to Saturn which shows the overwhelming nature of the relationship is devotion and continuity in spite of the amazing emotional and spiritual volitility.

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posted December 09, 2016 06:19 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
the MP is the point in between, the Opposite MP opposite, your MP's are conjunct.

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hey if you listented to me i wouldnt have to force myself to be the thing that you hate, the one that controls you
i dont wanna be you i just want ya to be safe
in a warm place somewhere down in a house away from town

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Thanks soren!

posted December 10, 2016 05:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Outstanding profound and complex analysis, Faith.

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Originally posted by llewsacm:
Is it septile to sun in the comp? That's a romantic theme...right? I didn't do the exact math looks close.

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Hi llewsacm.
I know nothing about the septile, so had to look it up. It is supposed to be 51.42 degrees. The distance between the composite Sun and Moon is 52.40 degrees. I don't know if this counts. Though it sounds nice that it carries a romantic theme I'll read up on it - thanks for highlighting!

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Originally posted by EmGem:
Saturn Fan, is the composite moon unaspected?

How does it feel?

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Hi EmGem!
There's just the trine to the ASC and the semi-sextile to Saturn which athenaia mentioned, and the (wide?) septile to the Sun llewsacm mentioned.
It's also conjunct his Mercury-Chiron, and square my Sun-Neptune-Mercury.

posted December 10, 2016 05:41 AM            

in synastry, the actual bodies are aspecting each other. mid points, well hm.

as for the septile, i have this in a double whammy with someone. Can't help but always allude to deep psychic/ connections/ destiny. it's just a deep background of the relationship.

posted December 10, 2016 06:45 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
haha well composite is mid points, so it's really asking "hows it feel that the location at the center of your moons is not aspected?"

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Which is an intense spot, equidistant from both Moons.

A composite Moon overlaying a natal position (conjunction and opposition) is not unaspected. (the orb needs to be very close though, I wouldn`t go beyond 3 degrees).

Might be a bit of a theoretical different view here, but i am absolutely agreeing with David Cochrane on that issue.

http://astrosoftware.com/Symmetries.htm

In his book he also explains the effect of having a natal planet conjunct or opposite a composite planet, which unfortunately is not featured in this article.

posted December 10, 2016 06:49 AM            

because it's noticeable when you have a planet at the center of someones sun and moon. but i believe it's also noticeable when they have their sun and moon 15 degrees apart, and then your planet is sitting on the edge

o..o...x

at x, i still do believe that would be significant quite.

posted December 10, 2016 06:55 AM            

Same with actual aspects to bodies, and then the comparison would be like asteroids is mid point aspects.

If you look at 2 mid points trining, how they actually look in the synastry, the could be anywhere, they could be making something like a grand cross.

But just the mid points trining, is a very subtle thing going on in the chart compared to all the major aspects (REAL aspects not MP aspects) and not to mention composite only takes into account 1/5th of all MPs.

So there's a LOT going on in a chart, like a direct sun opposite jupiter, and to pay attention to a MP of venus that is trining a jupiter MP, is quite redundant. imo

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