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Ibringyouasong
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From: Trenton, New Jersey, USA
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posted December 12, 2016 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ibringyouasong     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all! Here I am, again, after a long hiatus. (though I'm not sure anyone noticed).

At any rate, I have some questions. Now, bear in mind, I know everyone says to keep aspects tight - degree/orb wise - when it comes to synastry. However, I am much more liberal, and thus, offer more "liberty" in terms of range for degrees/orbs. Particularly when it comes to Sun, Moon, Ascendant, and the Sun/Moon midpoint in synastry. I know a lot of people argue that the tighter the orb, the more easily felt it is. However, I would argue that just because something is not so readily felt does not mean it does not exist as an undercurrent or something more of a "background noise". Still there, but not as radically noticed - like a spot of red paint on a purple wall instead of a black wall.

For example - the couple, whose synastry-chart I am studying - has these interesting tidbits.

Sun/Moon Midpoint of Her = Gemini (17 degrees, 14 seconds).

His Venus = Gemini (25 degrees, 2 seconds).

Degree for the aspect? 8 degrees, 12 seconds.

His IC = Gemini (7 degrees, 5 seconds).

Degree for Aspect = 10 degrees, 9 seconds.

They are conjunctions, as I believe conjunctions (as stated before, I am much more liberal) can go up to 15 degrees. (Yes, it is not IMMEDIATELY felt - like a nail being driven under one's finger - but it is felt; perhaps more slowly absorbed. Like a frog being boiled alive. Not pleasant metaphors, I know).

In their synastry chart, they have an Exact Trine Between Her Sun and His Moon. Their Moons Trine each other at 7 degrees. Her Sun Conjuncts His Venus at 11 degrees (yes, I count it) while Her Moon Conjuncts His Venus at 4 degrees. Her Sun Trines His Ascendant at 2 degrees while His Sun Conjuncts Her Ascendant at 12 degrees (yes, I count that too). Her Moon Trines His Ascendant at 9 degrees and His Moon Squares Her Ascendant at 13 degrees (yep, count that too).

What's also interesting to note between the two are these further midpoint aspects. (Still a degree or two wider than normal).

Her Sun/Venus Midpoint = Gemini (21 degrees, 37 seconds).

His Venus = Gemini (25 degrees, 2 seconds)

Degree for Aspect/Conjunction = 4 degrees, 35 seconds

His NN = Gemini (25 degrees, 55 seconds)

Degree for Aspect/Conjunction = 4 degrees, 18 seconds

(And yes, his NN conjuncts his Venus in his natal.) They also have, in their synastry chart, Venus Conjunct Venus (4 degrees) and Venus Conjunct/Trine NN DW (3 degrees/3 degrees). Her Moon also Conjuncts His NN at 5 degrees.

Her Sun/Ascendant Midpoint = Gemini (5 degrees, 11 seconds)

His IC/4th House = Gemini (7 degrees, 5 seconds).

Degree for Aspect/Conjunction = 2 degrees, 6 seconds

And then this was REALLY bizarre.

Her NN/Ascendant Midpoint = Libra (12 degrees, 44 seconds)

HIS NN/Ascendant Midpoint = Libra (18 degrees, 49 seconds)

Degree of the Aspect(?)/Conjunction = 6 degrees, 5 seconds

IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE?!?!? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?!?!?! (And please, don't insist on tightness of degree/orb.)

HIS Venus/NN Midpoint = Gemini (25 degrees, 28 seconds)

= Conjuncts HER Sun/Moon Midpoint at 8 degrees, 14 seconds.

= Conjuncts HER Moon at 5 degrees, 22 seconds (Moon = Gemini; 20 degrees, 46 seconds).

= Conjuncts HER Venus at 4 degrees, 5 seconds (Venus = Gemini; 29 degrees, 33 seconds).

So yes, that's how I read/interpret things and I'm looking for some overall meaning to these aspects, if any can be provided. Not an argument as to whether or not they're valid depending on tightness of orb/degree. Thank you for your indulgence, cooperation, and overall view of my post!

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Faith
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posted December 12, 2016 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
And please, don't insist on tightness of degree/orb

I doubt you'll find anyone on this forum who will grant 15° orbs for anything, much less midpoints.

I think most of us use only about 2° orb or slightly bigger for sun/moon midpoint.

For a more extensive inquiry about the charts in question, you might consider posting this in the Interpersonal Astrology subforum.

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Randall
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posted December 12, 2016 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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