posted December 18, 2016 05:27 PM            

My conclusion if that squares will remain locked. In this case, I am a Gemini and he is a Virgo. I am messy(SO, I am airing my dirty laundry).I am disorganized. I do not like to make plans. I like to do things on the spur of the moment. He is neat.He likes to plan. He is organized. We came to the conclusion that we can respect each other, but neither person will ever really change. Each person can accommodate the other, in terms of a messy person being neater or an organized person relaxing his standards. However, the inner person never really changes. If the relationship ends, the messy person does back to being messy. The neat person goes back to being neat.That is the ESSENCE of the square in synastry, in my opinion.

Now, the quncunx is a strange aspect. It is an aspect which can accommodate. I like the quincunx in synastry because it makes people STRETCH. I do not like the square because I think it is futile that either person will, truly, change, as I said. However, with the quincunx, both people change in order to accommodate the other and STAY changed.

This is my opinion on these aspects in synastry. I never say I have the last word. No one can master Astrology. I am a humble student.

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posted December 18, 2016 06:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
I agree with everything said except the square can generate change just as much as the quincunx. The difference is, in my opinion and from experience, is how easy it is getting to that point of actually willing to change. The quincunx aspect is always in your face forcing you to adjust while the square allows you to bump heads just causing friction with two different character traits, with no real action towards change UNLESS both people are mature enough to work past the differences the square creates vs just adding more "fuel to the fire".

And might I say, I enjoy squares and quincunxes also. They create purpose and growth in a relationship and adds a little spark or excitement to the chemistry. Maturity is only needed if otherwise compatible in my opinion.

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posted December 18, 2016 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
I agree with everything said except the square can generate change just as much as the quincunx. The difference is, in my opinion and from experience, is how easy it is getting to that point of actually willing to change. The quincunx aspect is always in your face forcing you to adjust while the square allows you to bump heads just causing friction with no real action towards change UNLESS both people are mature enough to work past the differences the square creates vs just adding more "fuel to the fire".

And might I say, I enjoy squares and quincunxes also. They create purpose and growth in a relationship and adds a little spark or excitement to the chemistry. Maturity is only needed if otherwise compatible in my opinion.

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I am open to hearing people's opinions, Yang. I feel that the square won't budge inside HIMSELF but he can change his outer actions to accommodate the other person. Do you agree?

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posted December 18, 2016 06:55 PM            

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posted December 19, 2016 08:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
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This is my opinion on these aspects in synastry. I never say I have the last word. No one can master Astrology. I am a humble student.

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posted December 19, 2016 12:14 PM            

I agree on the quincunx but I don't agree on the squares.

I am open to hearing WHY you feel like you do.

For example, I am a Gemini Sun and I cannot get behind the eyes of the Virgo Sun.

I cannot really stand in his shoes. I really don't emotionally understand the nature of his Sun(ego)

That is why I think this aspect( square) is not something that can be worked with, but has to be worked around.

I would love to hear examples of how you came to your conclusion about squares.

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posted December 20, 2016 07:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
I agree that quincunxes have to make adjustments to get energy flowing, but I don't agree that the can't feel each other.

I have a tight quincunx in my natal chart and I can totally feel it. My Venus/Moon quincunx of less then 1 degree gives me a tendency to experiment different ways of looking at things to get to the crux of an issue. Try it this way, try it that way. The quincunx has a lot of trial and error involved. Especially in connection with understanding other people's motives, being on the same page with them, and dealing with health/body/daily routine stuff.

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Great point, Lotis!

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posted January 04, 2017 12:24 PM            

Square in synastry tend to give some tension, an internal opposition that sometimes there can be a middle road taken, and sometimes, one has to honor one side for the moment, promising that the other side will soon have its needs met. Square forces us to listen to the conflicting needs expressed and to act to mediate. In a long run, square actually can grow you but are you willing enough to pass the pain/hard obstacle first?

Quincunx, this is a weird aspect for me in synastry and surprisingly, two of my major relationship have Mars quincunx Mars. Mars is described as a planet of action, and how we approach things are completely odd to each other. "It’s difficult to see common ground between the signs" is true for this aspect. I have found the energy can not be merged at all and you need a lot of understanding and adjustment. Sometimes this aspect force us to separate the two energy because blending the energy into one such a frustrating work, we hardly can fulfill both needs simultaneously. We need to understand that sometimes differences can not be merged and quincunx says it all.

posted January 04, 2017 12:36 PM            

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I don't agree that the quincunx is an adjustment aspect I have one in my chart and it is by far harder then dealing with the square. I've had it in synastry and it almost never works out when someone's sun is quincunx my natal moon in the 7th house it just feels awkward, the two signs just have nothing in common unfornately as with the square as well. They both suck equally. I can't stand my quincunx in my natal chart it is very difficult.

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I partly agree, in that the quincunx makes for a lot of "trial and error" , like Lotis said.
The first words that pop into my head for these aspects are: "tension" for the square and "awkwardness" for the quincunx.

The square is more dynamic, there is more conflict - they may lock horns. They can understand and appreciate a lot of the other person's style, even if they don't agree. It's more of an outright struggle for "your way vs mine".

posted January 04, 2017 12:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Now, the quncunx is a strange aspect. It is an aspect which can accommodate. I like the quincunx in synastry because it makes people STRETCH. I do not like the square because I think it is futile that either person will, truly, change, as I said. However, with the quincunx, both people change in order to accommodate the other and STAY changed.

This is my opinion on these aspects in synastry. I never say I have the last word. No one can master Astrology. I am a humble student.

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So, you mean - like, plasticity vs elasticity?