posted December 20, 2016 07:17 PM            

Which charts are used for synastry and composite?

Natal or relocated?

Any other rules that apply in this situation?

posted December 21, 2016 11:13 AM            

When your body relocates, it is exposed to a modified set of influences in the relocation environment. The longer you reside in the new location, the more powerfully your body is affected by the new influences there.

Astrologically your natal planets move into new positions or Houses. Especially significant when natal planets contact angular cusps in relocation chart, and House cusps change signs.

So there are four main elements in a long distance relationship: your and other's natals, your and other's relocation influences. {Progressions also have effects.} Look at natal synastry for how your inner beings relate. Relocation synastry modified by the individual relocation influences.

Midpoint composite chart is a derivative of natal planetary Sign and angle House(1st,4th,7th,10th) influences. Relocation composite angular House influences are secondary--subject to change with new location.

Angular House cusps are most powerful, although all 12 House cusps are significant.

Natal planetary Sign influences affect the relationship, no matter where the bodies reside. Relocation influences in relationship are different, depending on new location influences (for one or both).

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Originally posted by ant23:
What rules apply for relationships between two people that no longer live at their original place of birth?

Which charts are used for synastry and composite?

Natal or relocated?

Any other rules that apply in this situation?

Thank you

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posted December 21, 2016 01:45 PM            

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Originally posted by DannyCappy:
Not an answer to your question but I wonder if there is a aspect in synastry for that.
Maybe involving uranus? Or jupiter?Long distance relationship

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yes there are indicators
in my experience:

composite:
- sun/venus/mercury in the 9th
- jupiter in the 9th (not necessarily conjunct the love stellium)
- uranus in the 4th

posted December 21, 2016 01:52 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
yes there are indicators
in my experience:

composite:
- sun/venus/mercury in the 9th
- jupiter in the 9th (not necessarily conjunct the love stellium)
- uranus in the 4th

in synastry:
- both people most probably have a strong jupiter or/and 9th house in their natals; or a planet in their 9th or/and the planet that rules the 9th house cusp might be making numerous aspects to other planets
- * both people most probably have some planet in their natal 9th, which is being aspected (often by a conjunction or a square) by one or more planets in the partner's chart.
- if they don't have anything in their 9th, this may apply to the planet that rules their 9th cusp.

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posted December 21, 2016 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by DannyCappy:
Really cool!! What about uranus-venus aspect in synastry?

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posted December 21, 2016 05:31 PM            

Both people met in a different place than their birth country, and still live there (in the country they created the relationship).

So both natals used for composite and synastry should be relocated one ?
Or both relocated ones and natal ones?

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
yes there are indicators
in my experience:

composite:
- sun/venus/mercury in the 9th
- jupiter in the 9th (not necessarily conjunct the love stellium)
- uranus in the 4th

in synastry:
- both people most probably have a strong jupiter or/and 9th house in their natals; or a planet in their 9th or/and the planet that rules the 9th house cusp might be making numerous aspects to other planets
- * both people most probably have some planet in their natal 9th, which is being aspected (often by a conjunction or a square) by one or more planets in the partner's chart.
- if they don't have anything in their 9th, this may apply to the planet that rules their 9th cusp.

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natals' composite venus is indeed in 9th house.

Will post later the composites (both relocated natals and natal composites)

Update

here:

Composite (original natals)

Composite (both relocated natals)

posted December 22, 2016 06:07 PM            

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ant23:
[B]Hello all and thank you for your reply.

"Both people met in a different place than their birth country, and still live there (in the country they created the relationship)."

First look at each natal for individual characteristics. Next look at their synastry overlay for interconnections. After that, examine their midpoint composite. Finally, see how relocation planets change power in each natal chart (due to House changes)--and how the House systems resonate.

Could you post the synastry overlay? And identify which chart is inside.

"So both natals used for composite and synastry should be relocated one ?
Or both relocated ones and natal ones?"

posted December 22, 2016 10:34 PM            

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Originally posted by comdoc

"First look at each natal for individual characteristics. Next look at their synastry overlay for interconnections. After that, examine their midpoint composite. Finally, see how relocation planets change power in each natal chart (due to House changes)--and how the House systems resonate.

Could you post the synastry overlay? And identify which chart is inside.

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Original Natal charts Synastry (his outside/ hers inside)

Relocated Natas Synastry (same as above)

Thank you again for your input.

posted December 23, 2016 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by comdoc:
Ant, you're welcome. Your overall birthplace synastry potential is 75% (good). Your natals composite relationship potential is 48% (a little below average). However, in this new place where you met the composite relationship potential is 53% (slightly above average). This new residential location favors his prosperity and professional success--and emphasizes inner transformation, home, and family for you.

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Wow thank you for your reply!
In general we have so many things in common but for some reason communication wise we haven't been that good. I am just a bit scared because I feel attracted to him but he is is very cool when it comes to talking.

The interesting thing is that he lacks fire in his chart and i have plenty and i lack air when he has plenty.

Also the other thing that scares me is the composite squares to venus and particularly the extra tight square to Neptune...
Another thing that is intriguing is the tight trine between composite mercury and Pluto. I am trying to figure out how that will play out.

posted December 24, 2016 12:47 AM            

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Originally posted by ant23:

Wow thank you for your reply!
In general we have so many things in common but for some reason communication wise we haven't been that good. I am just a bit scared because I feel attracted to him but he is is very cool when it comes to talking.

The interesting thing is that he lacks fire in his chart and i have plenty and i lack air when he has plenty.

Also the other thing that scares me is the composite squares to venus and particularly the extra tight square to Neptune...
Another thing that is intriguing is the tight trine between composite mercury and Pluto. I am trying to figure out how that will play out.

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posted December 24, 2016 11:09 AM            

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Originally posted by comdoc:
His Gemini Mercury is oppose your Sun and Moon, quincunx your Saturn and Neptune, and square your Virgo ASC.

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I can definitely feel that.
Btw is there any positive aspect that could contribute to overcoming this ?

posted December 24, 2016 03:00 PM            

"I can definitely feel that.
Btw is there any positive aspect that could contribute to overcoming this?"

Transit influences could provide some temporary relief. A LOT of inner motivation and personal growth work would be required for permanent transformation.