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annaf
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posted February 10, 2008 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I know ALL the down-sides of this aspect,in fact I've ONLY found negative interpretations about this aspect on the web and the various astrology books... So I already know this can be extremely difficult for compatibility...'tug of war' etc. etc.

But what I'm really curious about is your experience with mars opposite mars as an attraction factor!

All of you who have had it in synastry, did you find it was a major aspect for attraction? Very stimulating and electric? In my own experience I've noticed it much more frequently than any venus-mars aspects. (In fact the two people I've been most attracted to I've had a 0 degree mars-mars opposition with).

Not sure whether this aspect has been discussed before, but Blue Moon mentioned it in the recent 'Great Synastry Going to Waste'-thread as adding a certain spark. Didnt want to hijack that thread with my questions, but Blue Moon if you are reading this, I#d be really interested in your feedback. Same with everyone else of course!

Many Thanks in advance!!

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posted February 10, 2008 02:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh yes! i had an exact opposition with a guy i was recently totally head over heels for. extreeeeemely attracted to him. there were some other good synastric attraction factors, but i'm sure this was part of it!!

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posted February 10, 2008 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heart cakes, was it mutual?

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posted February 10, 2008 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My parents have this - a friend of theirs gave their marriage 6 months.

She was out by a bit, over 40 years so far.

My dad says he was attracted by the challenge. They argue a lot. The aspect falls on my MC/IC.

I also have it on my chart with my husband. We have quite a fiery, passionate relationship. Arguing in front of the children is out, though.

Over the years we have worked out an effective anger management strategy. It isn't hard to walk into another room and count to ten.

Passionate attraction involves tension, so it stands to reason if you have a powerful dose, the kind that lasts decades, it is going to be written on the chart.

Some people never argue and that is good if it works for them. But if you are a person who likes to get things out in the open, and a bit of confrontation, this aspect can be helpful. I find it a useful influence.

As ever, look to the rest of the chart to see how it blends in and what it is doing in context.

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posted February 10, 2008 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it the same with Mars square Mars, does anyone know?

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i agree with blue moon. i could feel that sort of tension between us, though mostly we just talked a LOT. i could see how it could lead to a lot of arguments because the need to take action is so strong, or it activates that feeling in both simultaneously. we only had a long distance thing for about 4 months, so there wasn't any arguing really (just some verbally delivered confusion near the end!).

when we were together, it was quite strong, yes. we actually couldn't stop touching, being in physical contact. it was weird. we were like glued together for two days straight. it was very gentle and warm and comfortable (which i think has a lot to do with other aspects in our chart) but i think the feeling of needing to be constantly in contact may have been part of it; it was like an active urgey feeling. it was really cool. and we would jump up spontaneously and move around and do weird things and yet always had to be touching. very cool. and i am pretty sure the attraction was totally mutual.

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posted February 10, 2008 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've done email, text and mobile phone arguments.!...

I couldn't stand living with someone who always agreed with me and let me do whatever I want. Neither could he.

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posted February 10, 2008 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess it really depends on what a couple and an individual want.

As a person with Moon in Pisces-Mars in Aquarius in 6th square Neptune in Sagittariius in 3rd,I am hypersensitive to environmental influences,and so I have low stress/frustration tolerance,and be quick losing my temper,have an anxiety disorder,depression disorder. T-Square of Moon square the opposition of retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd. So I like to have a good deal harmony,peace in a relationship. If there is a lot of fighting all the time,that would lead to me having a lot of anxiety and be overstressed. That would be bad for me as I get older. I do like passion,intensity,and depth and believe that can be present without fighting.

hard Mars aspects in a synastry wouldn't work for me. The main thing my Moon needs to be supported because that's the personal point in my chart that is most stressed because it's an apex with t-square,my Sun trines the Moon and that helps but it feels more supportive when a Moon-Saturn trines my Moon which I have with my girlfriend. She and I have Mars sextile Mars with 26 minutes of arc,and our energies,passions work well together and are in sync. There is passion between us. Mars is ruler of Aries and co-ruler with Pluto of Scorpio. Mars disposits her Sun,Mercury,and Mars in Aries. Mars disposits my Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio. So that's good for finding common ground. Aries on my 8th house cusp,and Scorpio is on her 6th house cusp. So our 8th house rulers sextile each other which is good for shared resources,intimacy in sync.


I respect everybody's need/desire for excitement and high stimulation. I prefer a lot of peace,quiet,calm,and stability. My girlfriend feels the same too. She and I are both very introverted too.

different strokes for different folks.

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posted February 10, 2008 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Martin Schulman said in his book 'Karmic Relationships' ....'there can be a powerful sexual attraction here but it is often too intense for the individuals to understand'.From my experience I can somewhat relate to this. Mars opposite mars seems to bring this edginess about, this stubborn 'no I'm not backing down' reaction and as I said before I find it is a powerful aspect for sexual attraction. After all one person's desire nature (mars) is energizing the other person's desire nature.

I agree with blue moon though, you probably have to be the kind of person who prefers a dynamic exchange. I do and would be bored to tears if I'd be in a completely calm, serene type of relationship. Interestingly I have the mars opposition even in my friendships (3 of my closest friends have mars in gemini, I have mars in saggi). So obviously I like stimulating relationships...be it in love or in friendship!

Anyone else with mars opposite mars experience? Even if you had a terrible time with it, would still be interetsted to hear it.

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posted February 10, 2008 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have SKYMATES Love,Sex,and Evolutionary Astrology by Jodie Forrest and Steven Forrest who are husband and wife
http://www.amazon.com/Skymates-Love-Sex-Evolutionary-Astrology/dp/0964911353

in their book,

MARS MARTIALIZES MARS

Flowing aspects:Mars, as the god war, is inherently a prickly planet,so when we say that the Mars functions in these partners get along well, we need to recognie that this is a complex matter. There is definitely a lot of wonderful stuff to this kind of link: lots of bodily passion,fierce loyalty to each other,the capacity to support each other brilliantly in crises situations. There is also a way in which each warrior eggs the other on....to war! This adds volatility to the relationship. And perhaps that is the inevitable price of passion.

(My Mars in Aquarius sextiles my girlfriend's Mars in Aquarius with 26 minutes of arc.....so we have Mars-Mars flowing aspect,and the intepretation applies to us)


Challenging aspects: Friction between the gods of war: the mythic imagery speaks for itself here. Mars is always connected with the touchy,flammable,even nasty side of human nature. With this tense interaspect, a simple, chronic element of annoyance exists between these partners. The truth is that each one fears the other's anger--and each deals with that fear by responding to preemptive anger to the sight or even the prospect of anger in the other partner. The results are predictable,but so is the shape of the answer. Each person needs to learn to say "I am scared" one more time...before launching warheads.


(keep in mind that you have to consider the overall synastry...the effects of aspects in a synastry will be modified by other aspects
of course natals,composite,transits are factors...Free will is the ultimate factor.)

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posted February 10, 2008 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Relationships take work - in astrology terms that could be making the best use of challenging aspects, or it could be not taking for granted the more harmonious. Two sides of the coin.

Mars isn't just about sex, fighting and arguing. It is also about the way you get things done. In opposition that could mean creating a balance between two different energies, creating a happy medium.

A Square sounds quite combatitive but the explosion could lead to great breakthroughs. Not everything is got to the easy way around.

I take great stock in bad synastry. Checks and balances are very important in relationships. I certainly need them - I don't want to be left in my bad habits without question.

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posted February 10, 2008 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
awesome! I agree 100 percent with you!

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me too!

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posted February 10, 2008 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree completley I dont think I could do relationships that were too easy.

If everything is always serene and perfect how could you count on your partner being there when things get rough? You cant have a strong bond if you never had to go through some rough times, you wouldnt know. and yes the fire is always nice.. tension and arguments in the relationship are good I think especially when you get to the point where your both just screaming at eachother and neither one of you is getting the others point.. lol and then you can just start laughing at something. and lets face it. some of the best sex is when your mad at one another. or it just gives a good reason to have sex.. to make up for the argument


If your dating me and were not arguing once in a while then there is something wrong. Im am too much of a hardass not to argue with eventually.. hahah. dont get me wrong. I treat my gf's like goddesses but I dont want things to be all serene . thats just not reality.


"The course of true love never did run smooth"

- William Shakespeare "A Midsummer Nights Dream"


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posted February 10, 2008 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It really depends on temperaments. Some people can't handle a lot of stress....especially people with sensory integration issues. They get overly stimulated too easily. That's how I am with my own sensory integration issues.
I do much better with introverts like me.

I grew up around a lot fighting at home too. I fought a lot with my abusive mother/stepfather. It was a very dysfunctional,stressful environment.

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posted February 10, 2008 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
glaucus you have a virgo ac dont you?

what degree?

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posted February 10, 2008 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep.....13'26 Virgo Ascendant

my sensory integration issues and Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD which my sensory integration issues are connected to are reflected by my lunar apex t-square of Moon in Pisces in 6th the opposition of retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius.....especially Moon square Neptune with 1'22 orb

Moon as the apex in t-square can indicate hypersensitive,overemotional..especially if Moon is in watersign

also my Neptune parallel Mercury,Venus,and contraparallel Saturn.

http://www.ldpride.net/sensitivity.htm
http://ldpride.net/emotions.htm

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posted November 28, 2011 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Szangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops - was going to reply. Looks like an old post....

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posted November 30, 2011 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Szangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!

I've been reading on this site for a loooong time and just wanted to say - the man I am connected with now has a direct Mars opp to my natal Mars. It's intense in many ways. The attraction is incredible. (We also have Sun conj. each other's Neptune though... and some other interesting aspects.) But Mars opp Mars has to be filtered with the signs its in. For instance, mine is in Libra and his is in Aries. So I'd expect him to be the initiator and me to be the one keeping the peace. He may be more fiery with his actions and energy and I'm more even-keeled. I'd be more forgiving and keeping the peace, he's a bit of a $hit-disturber.

So what I'm saying is that the signs are very important. Ours is probably a good example showing how an opposition can be a compliment, I guess.

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posted December 15, 2011 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, can't believe I've come across this old thread of mine! Thanks so much for reviving it because I was just thinking the other day (so three years on from opening this thread) that the only attraction factor that always shows up in my synastries is the mars-mars opposition. It's ridiculous how predictable it is. When I'm really instantly attracted to a man I can bet that he has a gemini mars!
Has anyone else noticed that mars-oppositions increase the attraction?

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posted December 16, 2011 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuckyLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I SO agree! I was in a relationship where our mars were opposite by about a degree. WOW was I attracted to him!! In fact, practically all the men I find extremely attractive have their mars opposed mine by sign. It is so consistent it's scary!

Does anyone think it might have to do with what house the mars falls into? Perhaps that makes a difference. I haven't seen anything positive about this synastry aspect.

Would love to hear more about this!

By the way, this is my first post in Lindaland, so hello to all

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posted December 30, 2016 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have this and his venus opposes mine mars also and she is conjuncting my moon - and all i want to do is press him against the wall and bite his chin when he is annoying me lol - but thats because i want to tame him,dominate him ahahah

oh and they are in my 8th house so...i guess that plays a role for me - id love to see where i fall to him,but dont know his tob

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posted December 31, 2016 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 31, 2016 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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