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angel4845
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posted January 30, 2017 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone ever had this in there romantic relationships? Friendships?

I consider within 3 degrees to exact of orb in aspect since Pluto and the nodes are slow moving.

I've heard from other sources that the connection is hard to break once the two people get intimate with one another is that true?

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posted January 30, 2017 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like to know about this as well! I currently have a Pluto Square NN I believe with a co-worker..

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posted January 30, 2017 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'd like to know about this as well! I currently have a Pluto Square NN I believe with a co-worker..

Yeah I've looked through LL threads on google and no one has ever mentioned this specific aspect in synastry.

Only thing I found is ami Anne's interpretation of it but I would love to know people's experiences/stories with this aspect.

Is this co worker someone you see romantically? Are you the NORTH NODE or Pluto?

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posted January 31, 2017 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aqualilith09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My pluto is conjunct this guy's NN who I'm messing around with. I met him at college. The first day I met him I felt some kind of connection, he called me right after for "school " stuff, but I think he wanted to ask me out but didn't. A month later I went to his office again and finally asked for my number. Um other than that, idk what else I can tell you. He has this aspect in his natal so Idk if this impacts him in synastry, but I certainly feel it. I'm constantly thinking of him I want to reach out to him but i domt want to be clingy and we haven't made anything official either so yeah lol

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posted January 31, 2017 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ohhhhh I see are you two Pluto Scorpio generation? Or Pluto sag? Yeah I've heard from other astrologers that the bond is hard to break once people become intimate with one another since Pluto is a sexual intense crisis transformative planet. What's the orb if you mind me asking? Where's your Pluto in your natal chart and what's the ruler of it?

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posted January 31, 2017 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have this with a co-worker of mine - his Pluto is in early Sag, conjunct my Venus and opposite my Moon, and square my nodes.

As soon as he started working in our office and I heard him talking I found him annoying. His work attitude and ethic are pretty bad also - almost bossy from day 3 when he is just a newbie. With his silly Aries Venus he was trying to bully me for not speaking with him. I quickly realised this was his way of hitting on me, however something felt way off.

We started engaging in basic conversations and stuff, I checked our synastry and composite - nothing too striking or bad, in fact, most aspects seemed pretty alright with lots of positive ones. So he asked me out on a movie date and that was pretty nice, however he is 7 years younger than me so I couldn't take him seriously anyway. And most importantly - I do not feel any type of (physical) attraction - yeah he is good looking etc., but there is absolutely no chemistry. Yeah, there is a build-up to this story - soon after, he starts coming to my desk at work and tries to 'make me work with him' on his tasks, then this escalates to him trying to push his work on me and so I make it clear this ain't happening.
The thing is that he perceived me as a tool, and with my help he thought he could climb the ladder at work.

Now we barely look at each other or talk to one another - his revolting attitude of 'I'm better than you all' has always repulsed me, and goodness me, he was just pursuing his own interests at work through trying to get close with me.

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posted January 31, 2017 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Yeah I've looked through LL threads on google and no one has ever mentioned this specific aspect in synastry.

Only thing I found is ami Anne's interpretation of it but I would love to know people's experiences/stories with this aspect.

Is this co worker someone you see romantically? Are you the NORTH NODE or Pluto?


No, we are not romantic, but there is a lot of attraction on my side (no idea about him)...we have a DW Pluto Venus...(I wrote about him here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/006465.html)...

His Saturn is Conjunct my NN, and my Pluto squares his NN.

Can't figure out the energy between us, but it is this intense, uncomfortable energy whereI feel like I can't breath sometimes. He has Pluto Opposite Venus, and despite being a Gemini, he seems so intense to me.

Anyhow, I know wonder how these Nodal aspects will play...

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My Pluto is conjunct my mother's teacher's (her guru's) NN. I feel like I understand him better than anyone else. I am not his official student. I'm too independent. But sometimes he says and does things (usually on purpose) that create waves of confusion and chaos among his students. They start the whispers of doubt, and they annoy the hell out of me. I think, "why the don't you get it, it's so simple"

I feel like I understand everything he does, and I also feel like he belongs to me. It's not the way you feel possessive of a lover, even though my love for him is deep and intense. it's just that I feel I understand him so well, his existence in this universe is just for me- like he and all his ideas and everything he has ever done was for me. lol-not that he did those things for me alone, but I am the only true witness and lover of him, and since I am the only witness it is mine alone- Pluto is definitely in play. I have never even felt the urge to balance or correct my thoughts.. I'm not sure it's relevant but I want to add that I am in my late 30s and he is in his late 70s, though I have known him all my life.

..Yeah... That's one extreme interpretation

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posted February 01, 2017 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@outofideas

Thank you for sharing your experience I really appreciate it !

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posted February 01, 2017 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks I will take a look at your guys synastry

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posted February 01, 2017 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@venus2tinker

Thanks for sharing your experience! Sounds like a very spiritual intense connection you have with him seems to feel like a familiar connection if I understand the way you described your connection with him. Do you have other Pluto aspects in synastry?

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posted February 01, 2017 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aqualilith09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@aqualilith

Ohhhhh I see are you two Pluto Scorpio generation? Or Pluto sag? Yeah I've heard from other astrologers that the bond is hard to break once people become intimate with one another since Pluto is a sexual intense crisis transformative planet. What's the orb if you mind me asking? Where's your Pluto in your natal chart and what's the ruler of it?


Hey! Yeah it's within 3 degrees orb. My pluto is in the 12th house, the the ruler of my 12th house is Scorpio lol but yeah I can deffinatley feel a bond, not that I'm trying to break away from him just yet,just seeing how things flow. I guess we'll find out how things turn out if I do want to stop seeing him or vice versa.

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@venus2tinker

Thanks for sharing your experience! Sounds like a very spiritual intense connection you have with him seems to feel like a familiar connection if I understand the way you described your connection with him. Do you have other Pluto aspects in synastry?


I had to double check. We don't. We have Moon conjunct Saturn DW. Neptune square Neptune (interesting), and Uranus opposite Uranus. His Pluto falls in my 12th house...He's a Cancer Venus like me. His Venus is sextile my Moon which is conjunct his Taurus stellium. I love spiritual teachers with lots of planets in Taurus. Without even trying, just being themselves, they bring me emotional healing. My Chiron is in Taurus...the Moon/Saturn brings dedication from both sides...but its my Pluto on his NN/SN axis that I believe connects me to him on higher levels.

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posted February 02, 2017 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks I will take a look at your guys synastry


Thank you! I'd love it if you do! He's completely haunting me right now...

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posted February 02, 2017 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 02, 2017 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thank you! I'd love it if you do! He's completely haunting me right now...

If you want to get his exact birth time START writing down the time day and location you exact meet. You work with this guy so I'm thinking the composite ascendant is defently in Virgo since the comp ascendant describes how exactly the two people met and Virgo is the "daily job" it can also be in Gemini depending what your job consists of if you don't mind me asking?

The reason why I suggest to create event charts when you two talk or have a moment when the two of you are together and talk is because usually the transit ascendant/descendant or vertex will activate the composite ascendant or midheaven, usually those are activated especially if you work with this guy and it invoked with the public defently check where the transit ascendant midheaven is at.

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posted February 02, 2017 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@angel

so what about when two people meet at the university? (Both students)

And also when they meet again at the university but one is a student and the other a professor?

Which sign do you think the composite AC is in each case? I'd appreciate your help

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posted February 02, 2017 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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so what about when two people meet at the university? (Both students)

And also when they meet again at the university but one is a student and the other a professor?

Which sign do you think the composite AC is in each case? I'd appreciate your help


Defently SAGITTARIUS #1.

Or the chart ruler aspecting Jupiter or the chart ruler in the sign sag or the chart ruler in the 9th house or the chart ruler aspecting a planet in SAG baby. Hahaha! Or the chart ruler aspecting the 9th ruler. Sometimes Jupiter or the 9th house planet or 9th ruler aspecting the ascendant.

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posted February 02, 2017 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Defently SAGITTARIUS #1.

Or the chart ruler aspecting Jupiter or the chart ruler in the sign sag or the chart ruler in the 9th house or the chart ruler aspecting a planet in SAG baby. Hahaha!


Oh so saggy!

So definitely sag in both cases?
And we're talking about the composite chart ruler right?

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posted February 02, 2017 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh so saggy!

So definitely sag in both cases?
And we're talking about the composite chart ruler right?


Yes. I was involved with someone where we met at school we were both students majoring in music performance and what do you know the comp ascendant in sag and Jupiter in the 9th house in LEO (creative arts). Also the sun and Mercury were conjunct the ascendant in sag.

I also suggest seeing Mercury Gemini or a 3rd house planet or 3rd ruler in connection to the ascendant or Jupiter or possible the sun since the sun is the identity of two people as well.
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posted February 02, 2017 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many thanks angel! I'll try playing with different TOBs and will post some findings here in case you're interested

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posted February 02, 2017 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Many thanks angel! I'll try playing with different TOBs and will post some findings here in case you're interested

Please show me but do you happen to remember the time and day you first met?

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With the professor yes the exact time but the day might be a couple of days off.

with the other guy (also a student), not really. But I remember the date we first talked although this one could be days off as well. Does the time the two people first talk to each other count as a useful event chart?

but I'll check and get back to you hopefully tomorrow

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posted February 03, 2017 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Defently SAGITTARIUS #1.

Or the chart ruler aspecting Jupiter or the chart ruler in the sign sag or the chart ruler in the 9th house or the chart ruler aspecting a planet in SAG baby. Hahaha! Or the chart ruler aspecting the 9th ruler. Sometimes Jupiter or the 9th house planet or 9th ruler aspecting the ascendant.



so with the professor, whose ascendant I am very much convinced about, we have the composite sun conjunct venus both in gemini wider conjunct a very late taurus mercury all three in the 9th house!

the composite AC is in virgo.
the composite jupiter is in taurus in the 9th! not conjunct that stellium though. I actually did travel abroad with him!

the 9th cusp is in taurus, and the field where I was his student is architecture!

so the chart ruler (mercury/virgo) is in the 9th in this case.

the only comp sag planets are saturn conjunct uranus in the 4th both at saggi 29, both square the comp moon, and it's the only aspect they make (and also explain why I didn't like him).

the 9th ruler is venus which is yes conjunct the chart ruler (mercury) both in the 9th.

the comp jupiter trines the AC closely.

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The reason why I suggest to create event charts when you two talk or have a moment when the two of you are together and talk is because usually the transit ascendant/descendant or vertex will activate the composite ascendant or midheaven, usually those are activated especially if you work with this guy and it invoked with the public defently check where the transit ascendant midheaven is at.

as the day doesn't really change the vertex and the AC/DC much, we have the event chart's AC sextile the comp AC, and the MCs the same, also the event chart's vertex trines the composite AC. I moved the time a little more forward in the event chart and the event chart's AC moved into saggi and the composite sun in this way is opposed to the event chart's AC. what do you think about these? are the trines and the sextiles enough for activating?

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with my friend whom I also met at the university, and whose TOB we don't have but I my guess is either of these 4: cancer, virgo, scorpio, capricorn

*for all 4, the event chart's (transit) AC itself is in saggi, and there aren't any comp planets in sag

- if he's a cap AC, the composite AC will be in libra, and the event chart's vertex squares the comp AC. cancer jupiter in the 9th composite. the comp 9th ruler is sextile the chart ruler. jupiter also squares the AC exact.

the com 3rd ruler is jupiter which is in the comp 9th, square the comp AC

- if he's a cancer AC, the comp AC is in cancer exactly conjunct by the event chart's vertex. the comp venus is in the 9th. the chart ruler is trine the 9th ruler. jupiter is exactly conjunct the comp AC, the 9th ruler is opposite the AC.

- if he's a virgo AC, the comp AC is in virgo, exactly square the event chart's AC. the 9th house planet (moon) is trine the comp AC. the 9th ruler doesn't aspect the comp AC but it's in the comp 1st house.

the 3rd ruler is square the comp sun, trine jupiter and sextile the AC.

- if he's a scorpio AC (1), the comp AC is in virgo, sextile the event chart's vertex. no planets in the comp 9th. the chart ruler sextiles the 9th ruler. jupiter sextiles the comp AC, and the 9th ruler opposes it.

- if he's a scorpio AC (2), the comp AC is in libra, sextile the event chart's AC. no planets in the comp 9th. the chart ruler is sextile the 9th ruler. the 9th ruler is trine the comp AC.

* wow it all got pretty complicated! he could be either of these, but personally based on my own interactions with him, I am pretty sure that there is some planet in the comp 9th, either venus or jupiter most probably for me. we talk a lot about philosophy, religion, travel, cultures, all 9th house matters, and since the composite venus is sextile mercury, I think the composite venus is in the 9th (currently we also live in different countries). what do you think angel?

*note that I have natal moon and mercury in the 9th, so I get the sense that in my composite with these two men, there has to be a prominent 9th house as well, as they both have had great philosophical influence on me, and I believe it goes both ways.

* with my friend, I highly doubt that we have the comp AC in virgo. as my field was architecture and his was art related, I believe the comp AC must be in libra. but again cancer is an artistic/creative sign as well and the comp cancer AC wouldn't be very off either as he has sun, mars, mercury and pluto in my 4th. if he's a cancer AC my sun is in his 11th and my moon in his 9th/10th (he did say he changed his job because of me to be able to study what I study, so I reckon maybe my moon is conjunct his MC from the 9th?). if he's a cap AC, my moon is in his 3rd (he talks A LOT to me but then he's also a gemini moon!), and my sun in his 4th/5th.

*please don't quote, thank you

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posted February 05, 2017 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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With the professor yes the exact time but the day might be a couple of days off.

with the other guy (also a student), not really. But I remember the date we first talked although this one could be days off as well. Does the time the two people first talk to each other count as a useful event chart?

but I'll check and get back to you hopefully tomorrow


yes the time always matters in my opinion.

sorry i took a long time to respond been busy.

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