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Stellia
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posted January 31, 2017 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have been trying to find some info on this for a really long time but stuck at the moment!

I have been working on a synastry of a friend of mine, who could potentially be more than that one day in the distant future [hollow laugh, here's looking at you NN-venus], but for now we are very good friends.

There are some pretty fascinating conjunctions across the charts - but the ones I'm struggling to know how to interpret the most are the north node ones.

His NN is almost exactly conjunct my venus (by 3mins to true node).

In contrast, my NN and mars (conjunct 18mins in natal) are loosely conjunct his moon (by 3'50 to NN and 4'08 to mars). Ordinarily I'd not give this too much thought as it seems wide - but does the fact that the moon is involved make a difference?

On a similar note, we also have a wide Asc-MC conjunction (his sagittarius Asc to my MC - my MC also exact conjunct his jupiter) - but again by 4degrees.

(Intriguingly, my MC/his jupiter are in turn just 5degrees from his SN - we have these crazy energy funnels in our chart clustered around three points.)

I'm not one for overreaching, and not clinging to these aspects as a hope (there are numerous others in play, including some amazing asteroids but will leave that for another day!) - but really interested to know if anyone believes that an orb of 4deg between Asc and MC would be felt? And the same with the moon-NN/mars 4deg conjunction too.

Any wisdom/theories you'd like to share?

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comdoc
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posted January 31, 2017 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stellia, I'm inclined to allow the 4 degree orb. With my beloved first wife, her Taurus ASC 4 degrees from my MC and 6 degrees behind my NN--manifested bigtime in our life experiences.

In fact, synastry orbs vary depending on transit affecting them. Always take into account whether the aspect is applying or separating. North Node moves backward in the Zodiac: so it's applying when ahead of the other direct motion body.

Sun and Moon influence can extend a lot more than a few degrees. I use 10 degrees or so for conjunctions. Sun orb is greatest because it's powerful electromagnetically and moves more slowly than Moon or the ASC and other angles (Wheel of Houses).

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Originally posted by Stellia:
Have been trying to find some info on this for a really long time but stuck at the moment!

I have been working on a synastry of a friend of mine, who could potentially be more than that one day in the distant future [hollow laugh, here's looking at you NN-venus], but for now we are very good friends.

There are some pretty fascinating conjunctions across the charts - but the ones I'm struggling to know how to interpret the most are the north node ones.

His NN is almost exactly conjunct my venus (by 3mins to true node).

In contrast, my NN and mars (conjunct 18mins in natal) are loosely conjunct his moon (by 3'50 to NN and 4'08 to mars). Ordinarily I'd not give this too much thought as it seems wide - but does the fact that the moon is involved make a difference?

On a similar note, we also have a wide Asc-MC conjunction (his sagittarius Asc to my MC - my MC also exact conjunct his jupiter) - but again by 4degrees.

(Intriguingly, my MC/his jupiter are in turn just 5degrees from his SN - we have these crazy energy funnels in our chart clustered around three points.)

I'm not one for overreaching, and not clinging to these aspects as a hope (there are numerous others in play, including some amazing asteroids but will leave that for another day!) - but really interested to know if anyone believes that an orb of 4deg between Asc and MC would be felt? And the same with the moon-NN/mars 4deg conjunction too.

Any wisdom/theories you'd like to share?


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Stellia
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From: Yorks, UK
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posted February 01, 2017 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for that insight comdoc, the applying/separating point is a really good one, and indeed my NN in this case is applying to his moon.

It certainly *feels* significant - it's just challenging at times to separate out all the different elements when there's a lot going on!

The Asc/Mc element is probably a lot more obvious in some ways - in our case we work together and very well, too! - so the orb question in this case has had me pondering as there is so little around about angle/angle conjunctions, and those that do mention talk about it needing to be exact or at the most <3 degrees.

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