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Topic: Is moon/Pluto the cause for not being able to let go?
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kennedy80
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posted February 04, 2017 12:12 PM
  
http://www.astrotheme.com/images/save_double.php I've recently ended a relationship with my boyfriend. It's so hard to explain but I'm finding it very hard to let go, even despite all the chaos that surrounded our relationship. I've been reading a lot about moon/Pluto and wondering if this might be the culprit. I was randomly thinking about Rihanna's crazy relationship with Chris Brown today, wondering if they had moon/Pluto and they do. Of course my relationship didn't involved physical abuse, there still was so much insanity and yet I still find myself drawn to him.
I'm sure people post about these sort of things a lot, but any advice would be appreciated in finally understanding why I feel the way I feel. Also in understanding how he feels and if it's mutual.
Thank you! A picture of our synastry wheel is posted in the link above! IP: Logged |
todd
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posted February 04, 2017 02:19 PM
i have found pluto often has trouble letting go of relationships even when they ended them. I have noticed sun/pluto squares often exhibit this tendency so I'm sure it applies to your experience of moon/Pluto squares also.
it seems the unconsiocus selfishness of pluto doesn't like to let go of any control it gains over another.
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ScorpieScorp
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posted February 04, 2017 03:46 PM
I had an Exact Moon Conjunct Pluto with an ex of mine...I stopped talking to him a few years ago, and let me tell you, even though I am the one who left him, he haunts me continuously.It has been painful, he has moved on and gotten married and may even have kids by now, but I still remember us. Pluto/Moon allows for the intertwining of 2 souls, you get to swim in each other's, and it is a beautiful aspect. It's very nurturing, it makes you feel safe, in a motherly way. It is one of the deepest aspects, and it's really karmic. Almost as if you were meant in the lifetime to have this experience. Not sure what Karma you are paying pack, but there is something quite karmic about this aspect. It has a lot of depth, Moon is after all your psyche, and Pluto is so so deep. You mix those...well you know. Hang in there....it will be hard and agonizing to let go, but YOU WILL. Depending on the orb and other shared aspects, you will still remember this person (almost miss them)... At least that was my experience. We had other Plutonian aspects however.. Your link is not populating...I would just post using tinypic.com IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted February 04, 2017 04:05 PM
Kennedy and Scorpie, who is the Moon in your relationships?IP: Logged |
sis
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posted February 04, 2017 07:19 PM
I have moon trine pluto nataly and my moon trines his pluto. *we have other pluto aspects like sun square pluto, mercury square pluto.. he is the pluto person but I have all these aspects nataly. He is sun, venus, mars scorpio.. it is hard to distinquish the effects of moon trine pluto but here is my experience on a highly plutonic relationship I did everything to end this shapeless relationship hundred times in 7 years and nope could not do it, mostly because he does not let me go even though he is not in love with me. If I can get out of this, oh god I hope I can... IP: Logged |
kennedy80
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posted February 04, 2017 07:19 PM
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kennedy80
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posted February 04, 2017 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
I had an Exact Moon Conjunct Pluto with an ex of mine...I stopped talking to him a few years ago, and let me tell you, even though I am the one who left him, he haunts me continuously.It has been painful, he has moved on and gotten married and may even have kids by now, but I still remember us. Pluto/Moon allows for the intertwining of 2 souls, you get to swim in each other's, and it is a beautiful aspect. It's very nurturing, it makes you feel safe, in a motherly way. It is one of the deepest aspects, and it's really karmic. Almost as if you were meant in the lifetime to have this experience. Not sure what Karma you are paying pack, but there is something quite karmic about this aspect. It has a lot of depth, Moon is after all your psyche, and Pluto is so so deep. You mix those...well you know. Hang in there....it will be hard and agonizing to let go, but YOU WILL. Depending on the orb and other shared aspects, you will still remember this person (almost miss them)... At least that was my experience. We had other Plutonian aspects however.. Your link is not populating...I would just post using tinypic.com
I reposted our synastry wheel! I'm sorry you've gone been through this same situation. It is terribly hard to let go and lose this person. Which is ridiculous with what he's put me through. He's an addict, though I didn't know till the end of the relationship. There were all sorts of unspeakable things that went along with his addiction. And every part of my logical side says I made the right decision by leaving, but I know there's an amazing side to him that's buried underneath the drugs. And it's so hard to let him go. All I want to do is coddle him and make everything better. He haunts my dreams and my spirit.. being away from him has been incredibly hard. But now I'm starting to understand a little more, with this moon/Pluto aspect. Plus I believe we have mars/Pluto as well..
thank you for sharing your story and advice! IP: Logged |
kennedy80
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posted February 04, 2017 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
Kennedy and Scorpie, who is the Moon in your relationships?
In my relationship, I was the Pluto and he was the Moon. IP: Logged |
kennedy80
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posted February 04, 2017 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by sis:
I have moon trine pluto nataly and my moon trines his pluto. *we have other pluto aspects like sun square pluto, mercury square pluto.. he is the pluto person but I have all these aspects nataly. He is sun, venus, mars scorpio.. it is hard to distinquish the effects of moon trine pluto but here is my experience on a highly plutonic relationship I did everything to end this shapeless relationship hundred times in 7 years and nope could not do it, mostly because he does not let me go even though he is not in love with me. If I can get out of this, oh god I hope I can...
That is very interesting to hear! I can completely relate to what you're saying. Even though I'm the Pluto not the moon. The weird thing is, is I don't see him fighting for this like I am.. but as I posted above, it may have to do with his addiction issues. He really has totally screwed this with his addictions and I think he knows it. Maybe that's why he seems discouraged. But it's only been a couple of weeks since I moved out.. I guess time will tell! My hopes is he'll get well and come back for me, but my fear is he's caused too much damage to repair this. But it would be nice to see him try.
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Orange
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posted February 04, 2017 07:37 PM
kennedythe astrotheme chart type is so difficult to read, it looks so messy. astro.com charts are so much better. But regardless, I don't see a Pluto - Moon aspect in your synastry, or the orb maybe too wide. needs to be 3 degree orb max for a Pluto aspect to be felt. IP: Logged |
kennedy80
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posted February 04, 2017 07:45 PM
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kennedy80
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posted February 04, 2017 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
kennedythe astrotheme chart type is so difficult to read, it looks so messy. astro.com charts are so much better. But regardless, I don't see a Pluto - Moon aspect in your synastry, or the orb maybe too wide. needs to be 3 degree orb max for a Pluto aspect to be felt.
You might be right then. I think I did see it was a wide orb. Well, then I'm at a loss for what might be the culprit here.
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Orange
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posted February 04, 2017 08:51 PM
ah....it's the proverbial Mars- Pluto square that you have!! This one is a bugger, So obsessive it is, I feel ya!
Also, his Nodes are laid across your IC/MC which is a great pull, its like you want to ride along with him wherever life takes him ( the Node person is always set on going certain ways, like chasing a goal and no one can disrupt the movement but just ride along with them). But hear me out, your personal planets are quite lonely in regard to his chart. Your Sun is unaspected, your Moon is unaspected and your Mars is unaspected. You are better off him, believe me. He wont make you happy in the long run, because he cant. IP: Logged |
kennedy80
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posted February 04, 2017 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
ah....it's the proverbial Mars- Pluto square that you have!! This one is a bugger, So obsessive it is, I feel ya!
Also, his Nodes are laid across your IC/MC which is a great pull, its like you want to ride along with him wherever life takes him ( the Node person is always set on going certain ways, like chasing a goal and no one can disrupt the movement but just ride along with them). But hear me out, your personal planets are quite lonely in regard to his chart. Your Sun is unaspected, your Moon is unaspected and your Mars is unaspected. You are better off him, believe me. He wont make you happy in the long run, because he cant.
Ohhhh! Is that what it is that is driving me crazy! Thank you for your help with that. I didn't know we didn't have any aspects to our major inner planets. That's definitely not good. So, from the picture you're painting, it seems like maybe it's me that's along for the ride and he could live with or without me.. in other words, I'm more invested in this than he is? Also, I have questions about orbs! I read somewhere that-
"3 degrees (to 5) may be true for sextiles but for conjunctions it's as powerful as 10 degrees; 8 for squares, 6 for trines." But you say if it's under 3 degrees it can't be felt? Just trying to learn and understand! IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted February 04, 2017 09:44 PM
no, I meant 3 degrees only for Pluto because it moves so slowly and its so far from the earth.
outer planets are usually felt with small orbs.IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp
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posted February 04, 2017 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
Kennedy and Scorpie, who is the Moon in your relationships?
I was the Moon in the Exact, but we had a wide Pluto/Moon where I was Pluto at about 9 orb... IP: Logged |
kennedy80
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posted February 04, 2017 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
I was the Moon in the Exact, but we had a wide Pluto/Moon where I was Pluto at about 9 orb...
Oh interesting! I believe our Pluto/Moon is a bit over 6 orb. So you'd say you still felt the effects of the aspect, even at 9? IP: Logged |
kennedy80
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posted February 04, 2017 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
no, I meant 3 degrees only for Pluto because it moves so slowly and its so far from the earth.
outer planets are usually felt with small orbs.
Oh ok, that makes sense. Thank you for your help! 😊 IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted February 05, 2017 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by kennedy80:
Oh interesting! I believe our Pluto/Moon is a bit over 6 orb. So you'd say you still felt the effects of the aspect, even at 9?
No, what she felt was the exact (0 degree) conjunction of her Moon to his Pluto.
Scorpie,
What prompted the separation? Was the relationship obsessive?
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colorful butterfly
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posted February 05, 2017 09:40 AM
I have it natally, and have had two relations with 2 people with this aspect. One longer and the other briefly, when it ends you hurt and it is haunting!!!! It is not a normal tear , it's like something castrated from you. You feel your gut hurt. I keep breaking with the longer relationship that had been off and on. The last I saw him was not too long ago but then met someone who seems more in to me and OMG!!!!!. It's too soon to know I guess. Anyway, I set the other to the side , something inside me just hurts (feeling wise) because I don't want to hurt him, yet he is a monster on how he has treated me, hurt me. (toxic) This new guy seems to have himself together and I got a good feeling about him, it's like a psychic connection to some extent. I am really giving it time to make sure things work out , I can trust him and he is who he says he is. I really want something magical and deep for once , where the person is my best friend and lover. IP: Logged |
mir
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posted February 05, 2017 03:06 PM
His Pluto 8'48 Scorp
His Moon 10'20 Aqua
My Sun 7,25 LeoI thought it was much easier to let go.. but as soon as I'm confronted with the nastiness or dirty tricks of the world around and it accumulates, I start to terribly miss... he's got the same. But I don't see a way back. Keeping in touch seems the only viable option regardless the course of both our individual lives. IP: Logged |
ScandinavianCrab
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posted February 06, 2017 02:21 PM
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Beautiful_Light
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posted February 07, 2017 05:06 AM
Aww - you've got Venus conj Venus and Chiron conj Chiron...I bet that feels like the magical Venus-Chiron linkage.IP: Logged |
kennedy80
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posted February 07, 2017 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:
Aww - you've got Venus conj Venus and Chiron conj Chiron...I bet that feels like the magical Venus-Chiron linkage.
I'll have to look up a description of this aspect! Not sure I know much about it.. IP: Logged |
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