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Ami Anne
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posted February 09, 2017 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This aspect refers to one person’s Chiron conjunct another person’s North Node. This would be in a synastry chart, which is one person’s natal(birth chart) compared to another person’s natal(birth) chart. I have seen Chiron conjunct the NN in synastry, several times. It is not common, but it does occur, so I wanted to write about it. I have direct experience, too, so I can talk from that, which is always, the most compelling. I have great respect for the Nodes, in synastry. There is , both, a North Node and a South Node. The South Node shows the areas in which the couple will be comfortable. If Venus is conjunct the SN, the couple will be comfortable sharing love. If Eros is conjunct the SN, the couple will be comfortable sharing eroticism.The NN is the opposite, in the sense that it is not a comfort zone, but an aspirational one. If the SN is where one has been. The NN is where one is going. Going new places is always more frightening than staying in one’scomfort zone Hence, the NN is fraught with challenges. Think of something that has challenged you, such as your first job or going off to college. The NN embodies that sentiment.

In synastry, if the planet of pain touches the NN , the relationship will have a pain theme. One may ask, “Should I leave the relationship based on this?” I could not answer that, obviously. In every synastry, there will be hard factors. I will try to explain how I see Chiron conjunct the NN playing out in a long term marriage. Chiron conjunct the NN does NOT mean that every minute of the marriage will be fraught with pain. Chiron is an attractor to people,also. In many synastries, Chrion conjuncts planets between people. This is not, necessarily bad. One shares one’s pain in one’s intimate relationships. However, with Chiron conjunct the NN in synastry, one of the main themes, perhaps THE main theme will BE pain, in my experience. The pain is not a 24/7 event. There are many periods of time which are not painful. There are many shared events which are not painful. However, if one looks at the relationship, as a whole , from a future vantage point,for example, one would describe it as having a theme of pain. That is my my point of view. Please comment on anything, if you care to. I welcome any comments, as always.

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posted February 10, 2017 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 10, 2017 04:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. I don't have a Chiron/NN conjunction in synastry, but what if someone's Chiron falls in someone else's 8th House?

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Ami Anne
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posted February 10, 2017 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mohini108:
Interesting. I don't have a Chiron/NN conjunction in synastry, but what if someone's Chiron falls in someone else's 8th House?

In a chart, there are prolly thousands of things one could study, so I look to close aspects, first of all.

I may consider this but only after looking at everything else first.

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posted February 11, 2017 04:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this is about NN conjunct chiron but what about SN conjunct Chiron? My SN conjuncts my fiance's chiron by 1° and i could never find info on it?

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posted February 11, 2017 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron is not just about pain. Chiron is the permanent wound. From my haphazard study, I think the Chiron wound is where a plethora of wisdom resides.

We all go through pain as it is a part of life. We learn through our experiences.

With synastry, I would think the Chiron person would be key in the North Node person's evolution.

Now, if the Chiron person hasn't attempted to work through the baggage and the NN person refuses to grow, I could see how it could be painful.

Just my two cents.

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posted February 11, 2017 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LibraGirl92:
I know this is about NN conjunct chiron but what about SN conjunct Chiron? My SN conjuncts my fiance's chiron by 1° and i could never find info on it?

The SN is where you feel comfortable. I have not seen a relationship with Chiron conj the SN, so you tell me how you relate to this? How long have you known him, L?

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posted February 12, 2017 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fireopal09:
Chiron is not just about pain. Chiron is the permanent wound. From my haphazard study, I think the Chiron wound is where a plethora of wisdom resides.

We all go through pain as it is a part of life. We learn through our experiences.

With synastry, I would think the Chiron person would be key in the North Node person's evolution.

Now, if the Chiron person hasn't attempted to work through the baggage and the NN person refuses to grow, I could see how it could be painful.

Just my two cents.


That's very accurate! Someone s Chiron is exactly on my NN and my Chiron is on his SN. We are both instrumental in each other's growth and sometimes it's painful, but very rewarding in the end.

I have trouble separating the effect of both these aspects and they both seem to evolve pain and healing and growth, but while Chiron can be sometimes nasty to NN, Chiron to SN feels to me more healing and kind connection. But both are very binding. In our case his Venus is conjunct his SN and my Chiron, so there's certainly some love karma in the mix 😱

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posted February 12, 2017 06:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive known my fiance for almost two years and with what JJJ said about the SN conjunct chiron there is so much kindness between us and we have healed each other a lot.

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posted February 12, 2017 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YEA, it makes sense that the SN is sweeter and easier. Thanks for the great info, ladies

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posted September 18, 2018 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is Chiron nasty to North Node? I'm not familiar to Chiron's "nasty" side.

Is this the Virgo type of nasty?

Any new NN-Chiron experiences out there?

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posted December 26, 2020 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for larakster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just discovered my parents had this aspect, the pain theme was a terminal illness.

I have this aspect as well with someone however we
Have opposite nodes
Meaning my SN conjunct NN and then my
North node conjunct his Chiron, Sappho
And his north node my Asmodeus.


It is an on and off thing, with pain and disappointment ... due to external circumstances.

it is hard to create any permanence in our bond
Due to our Venus - Uranus opposition. Loads of other people in between many goodbyes, fights...
but also laughter.

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posted April 17, 2022 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rooted_Tree_33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it safe to say that chiron conjunct NN in composite basically points to the same thing, assuming that it's a tight-ish orb? Like, the relationship is bound to have a painful element to it, or it is bound to touch on a wound that might not be able to be healed in this lifetime?

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Originally posted by Rooted_Tree_33:
Is it safe to say that chiron conjunct NN in composite basically points to the same thing, assuming that it's a tight-ish orb? Like, the relationship is bound to have a painful element to it, or it is bound to touch on a wound that might not be able to be healed in this lifetime?

I would say in a composite chart, it would be a painful theme as Ami Anne said about the synastry. I would add that this theme of an open wound, would be something that is perceived and felt equally by both partners.

My experience with NN conjunct Chiron in synastry, was that the Chiron person experienced most of the pain, being triggered by activations of NN person’s NN. Of course, this aspect did and would also activate the Chiron of NN person. That being said, Chiron is a pain w/ gain deal for me. There’s always some unique, progressive perspective (Uranus) that is vetted with a solid foundation (Saturn) of experience behind it.


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posted November 02, 2023 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect with someone .. his Chiron conj my NN in 7th house and his psyche conj my SN

We also have a pretty exact vertex conj Asc DW

It’s an interesting, kinda crazy but very sweet connection.

Instant bond after we met for the first time.

I’ve never experienced being so close emotionally with anyone before in such a short amount of time and it’s absolutely mutual.

It’s so deep and gentle, too.

Everything about it can be described with this quote:

“No matter what you do, I won’t judge you. I will always try my best to understand you.”

Something he said to me once. He said it after knowing me for a week! He’s a tall, athletic guy, outgoing and always fun. You’d never think he’d be this deep.

I can see his vulnerability and therefore can show mine and we always give each other compliments, not in a flirty way but almost in an essential way, like we want to reassure each other and built each other up.

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