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astrosaz
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posted February 18, 2017 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey everyone, I was wondering if I could get your perspective on this please

This is my synastry and composite with a new guy. What I want to know is do you think this could work out despite Saturn in the 5th house Composite and negative aspects touching it? A lot of people say synastry/composite charts usually have some bad aspects too but I'm wondering if this will be too many deal breakers.

I don't know about anyone else but I always tend to have good synastry with someone and an awful composite or the other way around

The Synastry -

[IMG]http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq1/Astrosaz/Mobile%20Uploads/COMP2_zpsohvz iwkv.png[/IMG]


The Composite -

[IMG]http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq1/Astrosaz/Mobile%20Uploads/COMP2_zpsohvz iwkv.png[/IMG]


Edit - I don't know why links to the charts are showing up instead of photos? Does anyone know how to do that (I am copying the IMG link on Photobucket)

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fatatabata
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posted February 18, 2017 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatatabata     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here we are:


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Starry~*
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posted February 18, 2017 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey there! Can I assume you are blue and he's red?
I'm not a professional astrologer but I'll take a stab at it. I hope others can chime in.

Your moon opposing his sun is, in my opinion, a great aspect. I had this with my sag ex of 8 years and we were on the road to marriage, despite all our many incompatibilities and issues. I also have this with two other guys, both are guys whom were in serious relationships with me and loved me.

NN conjunct Venus is a significant aspect for it is an attraction indicator.

There are a few things I would be a bit concerned about...His moon is very lonely up there in his 10th house Gemini, as well as his jupiter and saturn. Also, your sun and mercury.

I dated someone who had a very lonely moon/sun/merc in our synastry chart. Although I truly believed he liked me a lot, he was the one that broke up with me. He realized that he couldn't give me what I wanted and he blocked me from all social media.

I also dated someone who did not aspect my sun. Although I really really liked him a lot and gave him many chances in the beginning, it was his "taking me for granted" that made me lose interest in him faster than a roller coaster dropping from a great height.

However, I must say that my sun is not my DC ruler, and at the end of the day I need someone either aspecting my 7th house or DC ruler (or do something with other relationship houses) to truly care to want to be with them. You both have an Aquarius DC, you should look to Uranus and where it is in your charts/what aspects it makes to get a more complete picture.

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todd
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posted February 19, 2017 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well astrosaz
you picked a hard nut to crack as the mars/Uranus conjunction opposed to the moon with the moon tightly opposed to Saturn, he is not really looking for a long lasting relationship .these four symbols show at best a relationship that would be off and on. it could go for years like this but it is very unlikely the relationship would be steady.
that is not to say this is not a very hot cone tion as the venus/mars and venus/Uranus midpoints are conjunct mercury. this gives a electric, vibrant ,intense and strongly psychic connection between you. just the psychic feelings would make one think this could be serious relationship. but the intensity you feel here is also the reason a breakup would follow. these intense feelings to not translate well in the routines and compromises of a on going relationship.
the Venus pluto conjunction can show a deeply sexual connection, but usually does not include a feeling of intimacy, rather the physical aspect can rule the desires.
very hot,just do fall into planning how to sustain the relationship.

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kicksotic
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posted February 19, 2017 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kicksotic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, in the composite, that Saturn/Uranus/Mars seems to me to be a fairly rebellious, perhaps even spontaneous aspect. Especially since Uranus rules the 7th.

So it would depend on what you're looking for in a relationship. If it's stability, dependability, reliability, so on and so forth, it might be difficult to achieve. 'Cause it's like that Saturn WANTS to be something more adult and mature and Uranus/Mars are, like, Nope, you know?

And then you add in the gets-bored-quickly Gemini Moon sitting opposite those three? Again, it comes down to what kind of relationship are you hoping for? With this one, it's more expect the unexpected and get used to unreliability borne of rebellion. 😜

Or at least that's my two cents.

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astrosaz
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posted February 22, 2017 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone for taking the time out to reply to me Still a novice so forgive me if I ask obvious questions

Yes I'm the Blue and he's the Red.

Starry - I'm glad to hear your success with sun moon oppositions, that gives me a bit of hope as I usually automatically assume that would be a negative aspect. I'm sorry that happened to you, blocking you off all his social media seems a pretty cruel way to end things and I appreciate you sharing your experiences I didn't even realise unaspected planets could be a bad thing til now damn ittttttt

Fatatabata - Thank you so much how did you do that I feel like such a dumb ass on here sometimes

Todd - Doesn't the mars/Uranus conjunction opposed to the moon with the moon tightly opposed to Saturn mean I'm not really looking for a long lasting relationship either because a composite is the destiny or energy of the relationship?
Nooooo anything but on and off! I always have Uranus squares close to anyone my age (thanks to my cancer moon and libra venus) and I deliberately look for someone older and it still finds a way to screw me over. So do you think there's not enough Synastry, house overlays, composite positives to outweigh the bad?

Kicksotic - Sounds exhausting to me! Would you say these aspects are deal breakers then? I've never had a good synastry and composite with someone ever so it's difficult to know when it's safe to jump into a relationship. As we both have 7th house in Aquarius would we not mind the unpredictability and freedom?

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kicksotic
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posted February 22, 2017 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kicksotic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astrosaz:
Kicksotic - Sounds exhausting to me! Would you say these aspects are deal breakers then? I've never had a good synastry and composite with someone ever so it's difficult to know when it's safe to jump into a relationship. As we both have 7th house in Aquarius would we not mind the unpredictability and freedom?

Sure! If a relationship that's unpredictable and has a lot of freedom is your guys' cup of tea, there's no reason why it wouldn't work. I think, as far as some aspect or whatever being a "deal breaker," I wouldn't let the synastry or composite dictate whether or not this relationship is something to enjoy. It's better, in my opinion, to use the synastry, composite and natal charts as a guide to ride out those inevitable rough spots and then get back to living life and enjoying their company. 😊

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astrosaz
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posted February 22, 2017 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're right, although it's easier said than done when you're weary of being hurt. If only those aspects weren't there it wouldn't of been too bad

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astrosaz
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posted March 20, 2017 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Re-posting my charts as I still have a few questions about the composite/synastry

(I'm the red, partners the blue)

1. Does synastry really matter if a composite is like this?

2. Would my stellium falling into his fourth house not show some comfort and willingness to commit? Especially as I'm venus and partner is mars/pluto - possessiveness?

3. Would saturn in the fifth extinguish the effect of venus conjunct pluto in the composite?


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wal2
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posted March 21, 2017 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wal2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Yes. In fact the composite has no context without being related back to the natal charts from which it was composed.

2.

edit: I misread that you are red and you were referring to yourself "as Venus" meaning you are receiving the other's Venus in the 4th house. So this would be information applicable to your partner:

Since the Ascendants are near overlap sharing a 4th house can promote heightened emotional openness with one another. You bring Uranus and Venus to his fourth house which brings both affection and instability. Since his Sun comes to your 4th house it is you who is likely to feel more strongly in this relationship.

Your Venus on his North Node is a strong indicator for me of feelings on your side. You are likely to feel great curiosity towards him. North Node conjunctions to personal planets bring curiosity without impetus. It is up to the planetary person to take a flying leap and gamble on a risk they may not feel any particular inclinations towards until the outcome has been revealed. His Venus conjunct your Pluto is the most identifying point of generating obsession. However, obsession is generally felt more on behalf of the Pluto person.

3. You've cut off the aspectarian of the synastry so I'm not able to help you to relate composite Saturn or the 5th house cusp back to the individual's charts. The wide orb of the Venus/Pluto conjunction is the more likely culprit when it comes to the mellowing of that aspect's manifestations.

I just want to also mention that the opposition is a hard aspect, and is considered to be the greater hard aspect in comparison to the square. Sun opposite Moon indicates that the roles that one another plays to the other are out of synch in the relationship. This aspect is more likely to be in alignment with causing incompatibility than healing it.

As well, the lack of aspects being formed along with the Suns and Moons likely being in aversion of each other's is bringing me a little concern here. In synastry we want good reception of luminaries and some substantial major aspects between Jupiter and Saturn and other planets. I'm not seeing too much of this here. How deeply do you feel about this person? If you can pinpoint the time when you got together or you were made aware of his existence, there could be some significant transits that would help explain your curiosity towards this person.

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Randall
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posted March 27, 2017 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

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