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Ami Anne
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posted February 20, 2017 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a great question. I got it, in a round about way, from Lisa. First of all, Saturn is glue.Secondly, Saturn is parental. Thirdly, Saturn is discipline, maturity and reaching goals. Saturn is like all planets, in that they can be a blessing or a curse. The most common way to be a blessing is in a positive aspect, such as the trine or sextile. The most common way to be a curse is in the negative aspects of the square and opposition.

I, always, get hostile feedback when I use the terms negative and positive. I do think there are blessings and curses. The curses may, indeed, make us stronger. They may, indeed, lead us to God. However, they are very difficult and they are a challenge. Perhaps, I should use the word “challenging” instead of negative. I will give you that, but squares and oppositions do not allow for change. One must work around them.

Back to Saturn in synastry. Saturn in trine or sextile is a good kind of glue. It holds people together, but does not feel like a prison. Saturn in hard aspect may hold people together, but it may feel like a prison. With Saturn, the conjunction is a hard aspect.

NOW, the big question is “Can a Saturn conjunction be good?” The answer is yes, given certain conditions. The conditions are that there is enough love and simpatico to overcome the strict parent quality that the Saturn brings to the planet( or angle person). The angles are the Ascendant, Descendant, IC and MC.

I just met a lovely girl whose boyfriend’s Saturn conjuncts her Sun, exact. She likes the parental traits he brings to her. She likes someone to help her discipline herself because she finds it difficult to do, on her own. Hence, a Saturn conjunction works for them. However, they, also, have many loving and deeply bonding aspects, such as Moon conjunct Moon. Without these, Saturn in conjunction would, likely, feel like an unwanted bondage.

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TensionEmpire
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posted February 20, 2017 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok so, if I have Saturn 5 of Aquarius squaring partners Sun 4 and Moon 9 of Scorpio, would the partners Neptune conjuncting that Saturn, soften things up?

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Ami Anne
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posted February 20, 2017 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't quite understand the question, but if I do understand it, the Neptune would help. Yes.

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posted February 20, 2017 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
haha, yeah, like we have the Saturn/Neptune conjunction, but my Saturn squares her Sun and her sun cnj. her Moon..

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sashavittoria
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posted February 20, 2017 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sashavittoria     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a somewhat Saturn-heavy relationship with someone for three years. Overall I think my experience confirms your theories, Ami Anne! We had a difficult square, but the harmonious aspects were really helpful. We were together for three years. However, we didn't have the conjunction so I can't comment on that aspect.

My Saturn squared his Pluto (1'20"). I haven't found much textbook advice on how this is supposed to play out, but in my (perhaps malinformed, so please correct me) interpretation I think this aspect manifested as me restricting him a lot. I was possessive and jealous, hated when he hung out with his friends instead of me, especially female friends, etc. But I was also an insecure Taurean teenager! Haha. However, he was definitely transformed by our relationship, especially in 8th house kind of themes. I think my parental discipline and restrictions helped him personally even as they hurt our relationship.

His Saturn also aspected my Pluto, but it was looser and sextile (2'31"). We pretty much fit this textbook description (from livevisionz.com): "Self discipline and the ability to set and reset boundaries give you both a great deal of endurance and staying power. You are committed to your partner and to your ideal of relationships, determined to secure yourselves in the face of an uncertain future by relying upon each other. You are deeply bonded to one another. You face the same trials and opportunities. If your romantic partner's Pluto is sextile your Saturn, you can help your partner regain direction and see him/her through to the accomplishment your mutual goals."

His Saturn also loosely sextiled my Mars (2'22"). He was very supportive of my professional and creative pursuits, and I was very supportive of his. It's definitely part of what bonded us together.

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sashavittoria
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posted February 20, 2017 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sashavittoria     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, but my current relationship has a lot of Saturn aspects D: I'll have to let you know how it plays out...

His Saturn trine my Jupiter (1'49")
His Saturn trine my Node (1'00")
His Saturn sq my Chiron (1'08")
My Saturn sq his ASC (1'17")

We have a LOT of loose conjunctions, but I don't know if they're tight enough to count. Some DW.

His Saturn conjunct my Venus (2'45")
My Saturn conjunct his Venus (4'02")
His Saturn conjunct my Moon (4'17")
My Saturn conjunct his Sun (5'50")
His Saturn conjunct my Sun (8'44")

But again, it hasn't been long enough yet for me to say how exactly these Saturn aspects are playing out.

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