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manderin
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posted February 21, 2017 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only time I really feel the Nodes in synastry is if it's someone's NN or SN is conjunct someone's planet. The other aspects- sextile, square, trine or sextile don't seem to have an effect.

(I left out oppositions because obviously whatever is opposed one node is going to be conjunct the other node anyway).

At least that's my experience. Do you agree with this or disagree?

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posted February 21, 2017 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are super important I think. The other person will help you or heed you in reaching your purpose.

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posted February 22, 2017 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think conjunctions are supreme.

The next aspects are the square to the nodes. I see that a lot in important and significant relationships too. Depending on the planets involved, the square may break a relationship, in a star crossed lovers kind of story. Some squares can be helpful to the extent that the node person is able to see the planet in the square as a way to integrate his or her own nodes oppositions.

Sextile and trines imo are not that important. though they don't hurt.

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posted February 22, 2017 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Node aspects in synastry are super important - I see them as a flashing neon sign giving clues in a scavenger hunt.

SN conjunctions are about past lives/patterns, the NN ones are about the path we should be looking to tread. Having someone's planet conjunct the NN can pull you in that direction through the lessons that planet brings.

I think squares are harder to feel at the outset because the lessons and planets only come into play at a later date - it's the thing you have to get past, rather than a direct pressure.

Do you know the children's book 'We're Going on a Bear Hunt' by Michael Rosen? - it's an adventure where the children have to get past several extreme conditions eg snowstorm, river, mud, dark forest to get to the cave where the bear lives.

The key is that these obstacles need to be got past. They can be ignored, but they'll never make it to the cave - and they can't go over it, can't go under it, they have to go through it. That's how I see the squares to the nodes. You can choose to ignore them, but you won't find the magic cave.

[Incidentally, when they do get to the cave, they run away screaming from the bear, who chases after them. They think it's going to eat them. But in a recent TV adaptation, the implication is that the bear just wants to make friends - again, makes for a great metaphor for dealing with the NN and nodal journey]

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fatatabata
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posted February 22, 2017 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatatabata     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a newby here but my 2 cents are: in synastry whenever my NN were opposite the NN of the other person (therefore my NN and his SN were conj) our relationship ended, not for lack of love...non non. But for a feeling of "my life path is elsewhere than beside you". Don't know if this makes sense to you

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kicksotic
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posted February 22, 2017 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kicksotic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aspects to the Nodes are extremely important, in my opinion. More so with personal planets and points than with the more generational planets.

When it comes to what aspects are important, I think it's wise to look at the whole picture. If the Nodes are involved in a sextile that's part of a larger pattern - say, a Yod or something - then that Node has an active part in the synastry.

I do find the squares can be a bit challenging. I have a friend whose Nodes are square my Asc/Desc and our life together is one long series of missed meetings, constant texting, gentle misunderstandings and a sense of always trying to get together, but never quite making it. Regardless, there's a great deal of love there (his Moon/Mars/Mercury conjunct my Sun/North Node/Chiron, opposite my South Node/Jupiter/Uranus). But that square from his Nodes to my Asc/Desc definitely shows up.

I've also found that North Node conjunctions - especially to the Sun - can result in the North Node person kinda dragging their feet before becoming fully engaged. As if they know, on some deep level, that this relationship won't be like any other and there's a bit of nervousness or fear associated with going all in, so to speak.

Have others found that to be true with Nodal contacts?

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posted February 22, 2017 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sashavittoria     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kicksotic:

I've also found that North Node conjunctions - especially to the Sun - can result in the North Node person kinda dragging their feet before becoming fully engaged. As if they know, on some deep level, that this relationship won't be like any other and there's a bit of nervousness or fear associated with going all in, so to speak.

Have others found that to be true with Nodal contacts?


My NN conjuncts my ex-boyfriend's Sun, but it's an out-of-sign conjunction at 3'06". I would say, if anything, he was the one dragging his feet, very nervous and fearful!

He made a lot of conjunctions to my NN though: his Mercury, Venus, and Uranus, although they were all looser than the Sun conjunction.

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posted February 22, 2017 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mohini108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah they are important, and a Conjunction seems to be the only one that matters. Squares to Nodes can present a binding between people, but it comes with FRICTION of some kind. That's not necessarily a bad thing, it just needs attention later on in the relationship. Conjunctions between Nodes are super powerful, and with personal planets, can create a bond that can really cause two people to think they can't really be with anyone else. Also the degree orb helps too. If you have a personal planet conjunct someone's Node, within like 0-5, that's is some powerful stuff.

Take me and this girl I know. We have a DOUBLE WHAMMY of Moon conjunct North Node. One way is at 1°, and the other way is at an exact 0°. I know two aspects don't tell the whole story of a connection between two people, but this double whammy is a big influence as to why we feel the way we do towards each other. I mean, the Moon is THE planet of emotions. Connect that with the NN, at these extremely tight orbs, and it's no wonder we share an intense and almost overwhelming emotional connection with one another. The bond is strong, and it scares us both that we feel so deeply for each other on a level much more profound than simple physical/sexual attraction.

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posted February 22, 2017 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the way, I think the nodal aspects have to be tight to be binding. I don't consider anything that is greater than 4 degree orb as binding. Anything greater than 4 degree will be attractive, but not binding. imo.

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posted February 22, 2017 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fatatabata:
I'm a newby here but my 2 cents are: in synastry whenever my NN were opposite the NN of the other person (therefore my NN and his SN were conj) our relationship ended, not for lack of love...non non. But for a feeling of "my life path is elsewhere than beside you". Don't know if this makes sense to you

I had it with someone who was extremely significant to me. It was as though events conspired to pull us apart. Lots of misunderstanding.

Anyway, I do know of a couple that has this aspect and they have been together a long time. So maybe if one has other binding aspects, it can work. In my case, we had the dreaded Venus opposite Uranus aspect. Romantic seesaw.

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kicksotic
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posted February 22, 2017 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kicksotic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my chart, I have a 00 Aries Sun/North Node with Chiron at 2 Aries. Opposite that, I have Jupiter and Uranus at 1 and 2 Libra. This oppositional axis in my 2nd and 8th Houses is a big force in my chart.

The two most intriguing - if not important - people I've recently met and feel an absolute kinship with both contact that axis. One has his North Node at 2 Aries with his Mars at 6 Libra and that axis hitting his Sun/Moon midpoint at 2 Libra.

The other has his Moon at 1 Aries with his Taurus/Scorpio Nodal axis squaring my Leo/Aquarius Asc/Desc.

Beyond logic and reason and perhaps even sanity, I know without a doubt that these two people somehow in some way will be in my life for a long time.

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