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Topic: composite help please, Todd!
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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted March 02, 2017 07:54 AM
 
what are your thoughts on this composite?I'm very interested to know! thank you in advance for your help! 
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soren
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posted March 02, 2017 09:04 AM
if you consider what a composite is, it's taking mid points. so the mid point of your venus's might conjunct the mid point of your mars's. the composite codes that as them being on top of one another. which is not actually occuring- just their mid points are- yet everyone conducts it as a true conjunction. when you have 4 planets all having 1 mid point in your own chart- do you count it as a conjunction? no eh.. cause a conjunction is a FUSION of energy, so tight, that the destinction between the two becomes dim..
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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted March 02, 2017 09:11 AM
true that the composite is counted by midpoints, but it can also show way more than each person's aspects to another's. it's more like what they bring about by being together.personally for me, there has been very few times that I have had a composite with someone where the comp neptune and uranus weren't doing crazy things lol IP: Logged |
soren
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posted March 02, 2017 09:17 AM
i disagree that it shows much. it only takes venus- venus mid point for example. ignores venus- mars, venus- neptune, venus-jupiter, venus-sun, venus-mercury, venus-saturn, and all the rest. it ignores a full 8/9th. there are so many mid point action going on, between EVERYTHING in the charts, that the composite is only a very small fraction. not to mention, i dont think the mid points of your mars, trining the mid points of your venus, would be all that powerful. i could draw it out so you can see how that physically looks. IP: Logged |
soren
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posted March 02, 2017 09:24 AM
Pretend orange is both of your mars in synastry, green is both ur venus's
 This is a trine. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted March 02, 2017 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by soren:
ignores venus- mars, venus- neptune, venus-jupiter, venus-sun, venus-mercury, venus-saturn, and all the rest.
I agree with this this is what Todd has both a great eye for to detect and the ability to interpret
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Originally posted by soren:
i dont think the mid points of your mars, trining the mid points of your venus, would be all that powerful.
trines may not be felt as intensely I agree, but they're still a nice feeling to have quote:
Originally posted by soren:
i could draw it out so you can see how that physically looks.
but yeah, I'm interested to know how you see it! IP: Logged |
soren
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posted March 02, 2017 09:25 AM
It is not destinctive in the slightest- the trine energy, paired with 20 other bodies mixed and matched in around the chart- I don't think this composite trine would ammount to muchAnd yes that picture is what a truly composite aspect is. Their mid points. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted March 02, 2017 09:27 AM
mars/venus has been given way more hype than it actually is about imoI find mars/moon contacts/midpoints way more passionate. but for me the most passionate of them are chiron to moon/node/sun/mars/venus IP: Logged |
soren
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posted March 02, 2017 09:28 AM
Just envision "the middle" of the green area.. and how it aspects the "middle of the orange"...now actually envision the power of an orange line, directly frontly aspecting a green line. it is so much more powerful and direct. and true. now once again after you envision an orange line to green line, once again envision the middle of the oranges.. aspecting the middle space in between of the greens... think its powerful? at least 100 times less than a real aspect that is happening. IP: Logged |
soren
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posted March 02, 2017 09:30 AM
the thing that is notable in synastry, is if you actually have bodies located at yours and your partners mid points.. like if your sun was in the middle of their venus and your mars.. then you got a true semi-powerful aspect.. just a mid point aspecting another mid point.. there's no substance, no weight. a planet at a mid point of 2 others, has a certain pressure to it. IP: Logged |
soren
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posted March 02, 2017 09:33 AM
next thing they'll be doing is using mid poitns of mid points ROFL the middle space of the two peoples venus's, and their mars, is aspecting the middle space of their jupiters and their saturns. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted March 02, 2017 09:38 AM
in the chart I posted the sun/pluto midpoint is conjunct venus, which is trine mercur/saturn/node, but square uranus.and the sun/mars midpoint is conjunct moon, which is squared by a pluto which is trine chiron! I know what these feel like! I wonder what Todd thinks, whether this guy is being real or is just trying to seduce me for his personal ambitions/satisfactions (he's a scorpio sun/mars/mercury, cap moon). I have been friends with him for more than 4 years now, and somehow I know he'll always be there, so there's definitely some saturn in the play. in synastry my venus is opposite his venus/saturn, one (myself included) would think a fatal aspect, but somehow we're very comfortable together. I wonder if it's the composite venus trine saturn IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted March 02, 2017 09:46 AM
quote:
Originally posted by soren:
the thing that is notable in synastry, is if you actually have bodies located at yours and your partners mid points.. like if your sun was in the middle of their venus and your mars.. then you got a true semi-powerful aspect.. just a mid point aspecting another mid point.. there's no substance, no weight. a planet at a mid point of 2 others, has a certain pressure to it.
I agree, there has to be a planet which emits the energy and activates a midpoint. I never think that my midpoint could affect someone else's midpoint! but the composite, I don't know how it was invented but it really shows great things hidden in synastry! quote:
Originally posted by soren:
next thing they'll be doing is using mid poitns of mid points ROFL the middle space of the two peoples venus's, and their mars, is aspecting the middle space of their jupiters and their saturns.
maybe there's already some chart like this? lol I have seen a fair share of some unreasonable things some astrologers say (like comparing 2 harmonic charts with one another, instead of harmonic charts to the other's natal), but I know by experience that the composite isn't one of them!
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soren
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posted March 02, 2017 09:51 AM
Thanks rainy you made my day. You actually used the mid points of your mars and the mid points of your suns, and said it was conjunct (actually its opposite) your moons. Using mid points aspecting mid points' mid points! "The mid points of our suns + mid point of our mars, is aspecting the mid point of our moons."Here I drew out an exact example of what that formerly mentioned just now actually looks like.
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soren
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posted March 02, 2017 09:52 AM
You said "I never think that my mid point could affect someone else's midpoint!"But that is the only thing a composite does! Mid point to other mid point action! It doesn't show you where your actual venus is. So you cant even use your actual venus to compare to your mars/mars mid points. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted March 02, 2017 09:57 AM
well there's actually 2 midpoints (opposite one another) for each set of two planetswhen I say that the comp sun/mars midpoint is conjunct moon, I also sense it how our moons soften the interaction of our suns and our marses
@Todd
I am now seeing that the composite mars/pluto is sqaure neptune, so I'm wondering if it points out to his selfishness?!
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soren
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posted March 02, 2017 09:58 AM
"but the composite, I don't know how it was invented but it really shows great things hidden in synastry!"I know how it got invented. They just magically hoped, by comparing synastrys.. heyy.. why not, put two and two together... lets find the point inbetween each respective planet.. I mean.. the middle.. is special.. and potent.. lets draw each one and put it there- IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD IDEA!! IP: Logged |
soren
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posted March 02, 2017 09:59 AM
I mean it just seemed neat and like it should work.. i mean we never actually considered the mechanics.. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted March 02, 2017 10:01 AM
quote:
Originally posted by soren:
You said "I never think that my mid point could affect someone else's midpoint!"But that is the only thing a composite does! Mid point to other mid point action! It doesn't show you where your actual venus is. So you cant even use your actual venus to compare to your mars/mars mid points.
like I said, I'm still not sure how the comp chart has been invented, but it sure is serving its purpose: revealing the hidden/hard to notice, yet very important dynamics synastry is a powerful tool and I always check it first, but I'll never skip the composite chart. most of the times it reflects some of one or both people's natal aspects, but often it shows what kind of a relationship you're dealing with
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soren
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posted March 02, 2017 10:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
well there's actually 2 midpoints (opposite one another) for each set of two planets
yeah but you said sun/mars mid point is conjunct (well its opposite) the moon. or are you saying the sun MP opposite moon and the mars MP opposite moon.. even though its by 15 degrees? still you said sun/mars mid point Which is what the picture above shows.. the thicker lines are the planets..
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when I say that the comp sun/mars midpoint is conjunct moon, I also sense it how our moons soften the interaction of our suns and our marses
what do you mean conjunct, dont you mean opposite? IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted March 02, 2017 10:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by soren:
Which is what the picture above shows.. the thicker lines are the planets.
if your pic is made on the chart I posted, it's actually wrong, our moons aren't like that it synastry, they're sextile. our suns opposite (by 4 degrees) and our marses in the same element but square by 10 degrees (perhaps it's too wide for a square) quote:
Originally posted by soren:
what do you mean conjunct, dont you mean opposite?
no I mean conjunct; in that chart you see, sun and mars have 2 midpoints, at about 27 leo and 27 aqua, which the comp moon is conjunct the one at the 27 aqua IP: Logged |
soren
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posted March 02, 2017 10:09 AM
i have rows of venus's... so i have done synastry testing.. i know that if the exact conjunction/opposition is off even by 1-2 degrees it greatly loses its potency.. i've seen people who have a planet (venus) at the MP of my uranus and asc.. and i can actually see them subtly contain all 3 auras.. they have uranus.. IP: Logged |
soren
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posted March 02, 2017 10:12 AM
the pic i made was an example of the moons mid point opposite the sun's midpoint and the mar's mid point. you say that the sun and mar's mid point has 2, 1 at 27 leo, and 1 at 27 aqua, well you can consider them mid points, but if you were ever describing to someone, it's much easier to clarify that one is opposite. or else you could not destinct IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted March 02, 2017 10:14 AM
lol since Todd may not have the time to go through all our posts, I'm gonna make another thread for him only, you and I can continue talking hereon the orbs,
some say for the midpoints it has to be 0
other allow it up to 5-6 for synastry the orb may matter, but for the composite I believe it's felt even if it's not exact IP: Logged |
soren
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posted March 02, 2017 10:15 AM
i meant you can say the opposite of the mid point is a mid point too, but say you said our pluto trines the mid point but they envisioned the one that was actually in the middle and not opposite of the middle, then they get confused pretty easily oh and i meant the moon's mid point is opposite of the mid point between the sun's mid point and the mid point of your mars's. hard to explain but yeah it wasn't your actual chart, but that is how it physically looks. just look at the thicker lines and say "yup the mid point of the sun's mid point along with the mars's mid point is opposite our moon's mid point" can you see that, potent, mid point action? IP: Logged |
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