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Aqualilith09
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posted March 13, 2017 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aqualilith09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I've got an out of sign moon square moon synastry aspect with my new bf...his is in Aries, mine is in aqua. Naturally aren't they like a quintile? Will our moon interact as like in like a quintile or will just go based on that square?? Any insight plz...

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posted March 13, 2017 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquarius and Aries are sextile by sign. The square between Moons indicates conflicting emotional natures. Frequent clashes are to be expected and there is a necessity for developing effective communication to keep things under control. Your square should be less difficult to manage than it tends to be because the elements are compatible. Regarding your signs, I imagine sometimes you find him too impulsive and too easy to anger and he wishes you were more open about your feelings with him and more willing to rely on him.

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posted March 13, 2017 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wal2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm intrigued to reply to this as I can't help but share my opinion, but I hope you understand this is just my personal take on things. Everyone has their own methods when it comes to astrology It is definitely a square. Now we know you can't have a square aspect out of sign without some kind of orb, so first of all you need to eliminate this. When you perfect the aspect in an out of sign square, aka nudging the planets so that the aspect is exact at a 0 degree orb, you are requiring at least one person's moon to move into a new sign.

When a planet moves toward an aspect, it is called applying. When a planet is moving away, it is called separating. Basically this aspect works like a see-saw. For one of you, perfecting the square will be an applying motion and for the other, separating. For example, if his Aries moon is on the cusp of Taurus then his moon will move forward into Taurus to perfect the square, while your moon moves backwards into Capricorn to perfect the square. In this case, we can look to traditional astrology and we can see that the moon is believed to be exalted in Taurus, but in detriment in Capricorn.

Applying aspects tend to be felt more than separating within a relationship at the outset. This means that he is likely to feel the tension this aspect creates within the relationship more than you at the outset, while you are more likely to be initially accepting of it. If we're freestyling a read on this then, when you combine all of these factors, I would have to venture a guess that the Aquarius moon is definitely being dealt the worse hand of the two. The Aries moon person is likely to see the conflict more clearly and feel the discomfort of it much more, and at the same time the moon in their chart is strengthened by the exaltation. The Aqua moon suffers a one-two punch here as they are having to deal with their emotional capability being considerably weakened by moon in detriment as well as by being the separating partner in the aspect, they feel less urgency about the discomfort brought up by this hard square.

For me, moon square moon is a red flag indicator of incompatibility. If there aren't major supportive aspects at play in the rest of the synastry chart then I would recommend you to meditate on what kind of person you're expected to be emotionally in this relationship, and if that's the right solution for you.

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posted March 13, 2017 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the responsible thing to say would be to let your relationship unfold as it will and not let one aspect dictate how you feel about this person/the relationship.

These things can also become like a self-fulfilling prophecy because now at the first glimmer of conflict you may "blame" your synastry with this person and feel less motivated to work through it and find a solution.

Analyzing your synastry with someone new can be dangerous. There are PLENTY of example of relationships that survive with squared planets.

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posted March 13, 2017 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatatabata     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Analyzing your synastry with someone new can be dangerous. There are PLENTY of example of relationships that survive with squared planets.

This is a very good point!

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posted March 13, 2017 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
margym0o
I don't see a reason for that kind of reply, at least not yet. It sounds to me like she's simply curious.

Aqualilith09
What's the orb of your square exactly? It's important.

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posted March 13, 2017 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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margym0o
I don't see a reason for that kind of reply, at least not yet. It sounds to me like she's simply curious.


For it to be said that squared Moons is a red flag for incompatibility is a strong statement especially since she will likely take that away from this inquiry. I wouldn't want her to carry that notion with her and let it affect what could otherwise be a great relationship. Nothing is 100% with astrology.

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posted March 13, 2017 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Nothing is 100% with astrology.

That's correct. I think you should've adressed wal2 instead since it's about disagreeing with them. You gotta give it to them though that they stated it was their personal opinion.

Many people begin their astro exploration because of their love interest and that's ok. Let's let Aqualilith09 think for herself. If she has to learn from her mistakes, so be it.

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posted March 13, 2017 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Iridia:

That's correct. I think you should've adressed wal2 instead since it's about disagreeing with them. You gotta give it to them though that they stated it was their personal opinion.

Many people begin their astro exploration because of their love interest and that's ok. Let's let Aqualilith09 think for herself. If she has to learn from her mistakes, so be it.


Ok

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posted March 13, 2017 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaLeo29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by wal2:
I'm intrigued to reply to this as I can't help but share my opinion, but I hope you understand this is just my personal take on things. Everyone has their own methods when it comes to astrology It is definitely a square. Now we know you can't have a square aspect out of sign without some kind of orb, so first of all you need to eliminate this. When you perfect the aspect in an out of sign square, aka nudging the planets so that the aspect is exact at a 0 degree orb, you are requiring at least one person's moon to move into a new sign.

When a planet moves toward an aspect, it is called applying. When a planet is moving away, it is called separating. Basically this aspect works like a see-saw. For one of you, perfecting the square will be an applying motion and for the other, separating. For example, if his Aries moon is on the cusp of Taurus then his moon will move forward into Taurus to perfect the square, while your moon moves backwards into Capricorn to perfect the square. In this case, we can look to traditional astrology and we can see that the moon is believed to be exalted in Taurus, but in detriment in Capricorn.

Applying aspects tend to be felt more than separating within a relationship at the outset. This means that he is likely to feel the tension this aspect creates within the relationship more than you at the outset, while you are more likely to be initially accepting of it. If we're freestyling a read on this then, when you combine all of these factors, I would have to venture a guess that the Aquarius moon is definitely being dealt the worse hand of the two. The Aries moon person is likely to see the conflict more clearly and feel the discomfort of it much more, and at the same time the moon in their chart is strengthened by the exaltation. The Aqua moon suffers a one-two punch here as they are having to deal with their emotional capability being considerably weakened by moon in detriment as well as by being the separating partner in the aspect, they feel less urgency about the discomfort brought up by this hard square.

For me, moon square moon is a red flag indicator of incompatibility. If there aren't major supportive aspects at play in the rest of the synastry chart then I would recommend you to meditate on what kind of person you're expected to be emotionally in this relationship, and if that's the right solution for you.


Just curious how a moon semisextile moon compatibility is like, for example Aquarius moon and Capricorn moon.

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posted March 14, 2017 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wal2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@margym0o I completely understand what you're saying and I'm sorry if my reply was too fatalistic.

While I do believe that people cross paths in life for certain reasons I don't see the harm in natural risk assessment. For example, if I'm a non-smoker and get into a relationship with someone who smokes in the house, that would be something I would have to think about before I ask them to move in with me. Having square moons is similarly something I would consider, in that way, as well.

However, if you know you have differences between yourself and your partner, whether you blame your partner's differences for any potential issues that arise or you take a more active stance in trying to reach compromise, is ultimately up to the individual. In my experience with astrology, a planet square itself in another person's chart means that there are fundamental and noticeable differences between the individuals. Not every planet in square with itself is equally hard to deal with. For example, I had Venus square my partner's Venus in a relationship once. All that meant is, our style, things we enjoyed, and ways we presented ourself aesthetically were very very different. People used to ask us "How did YOU TWO end up together?" Me, Venus in Scorpio, was looking more Adams family-ish at the time in my all black clothes and dark makeup and my then boyfriend, Venus in Aquarius, with the pink crew sweater and eau de sport cologne. Our style of expressing affection was vastly different as well but his Venus was in the 12th house which helped a lot to bridge the otherwise incongruent gaps. We dated in secret at work, classic 12th house Venus...

So there are places where incompatibility is more forgivable than others. But there are some points of a relationship where, if the people involved are on different pages, it's going to be quite difficult. In my experience, squares between the Moons, Mercuries, or Ascendants in synastry are difficult. The positive or negative capacities of the square are highly dependent on the sign and house placement.

Although it's perfectly fine to let a relationship unfold, I can't say I agree with the abstaining of looking at the synastry of a new relationship. I don't think there is anything wrong with knowledge. In my experience, when I look at synastry in combination with transits for the moment they meant, and relate the synastry and transits back to each individual's natal chart, the results are always spot-on accurate for reading the nature of a relationship between two people, every single time. I think it is what you do with this knowledge that ultimately determines the success of a relationship

@AquaLeo29 When I'm looking at a synastry chart I generally look at the major aspects. Semi-sextile doesn't fall under that category, so that puts the moons in aversion.

Let's say I'm looking at a chart with these two moons to determine the level of emotional compatibility. When planets do not form a major aspect between each other, I would check for aspects from the moon to other planets in the chart, looking for major aspects only. For example, if the Aqua moon is trine to the other's Venus in Libra, this is good. You may have different hobbies and preferences but the moon energy is well activated by the other person's Venusian affection. Then I would look to sign and house rulership. What are Uranus and Saturn doing in the synastry? Are they being strongly supported? How about the 10th and 11th house? Let's say Capricorn moon's Saturn is unaspected to any major planet and none of the other person's planets fall into their 10th house, leaving it empty. This is not good. Nothing in the synastry is really "activating" their Capricorn moon energy.

That's just an example, but based on those factors I would be able to say whether or not these people are adequately emotionally supported by the relationship. The semi-sextile aspect by itself isn't enough to judge compatibility between the moons. This is just how I prefer to look at synastry though, and your preferred method might be different

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posted March 14, 2017 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Piscean Moon squaring my SO's Sagittarian Moon.

I've been with him for 7+ years and we were together 20+ years ago when we were young and reconnected as old fogies.

Through astrology I have learned to respect our differences.

However, we both have mutable Moons and his Moon conjuncts my Venus. As per the typical Jupiter influence in synastry, we are each other's biggest cheerleaders.

We don't see eye to eye on everything, but we treat each other with respect and COMPASSION. For instance, I visiting his town and we had to run his kid back to her mom's house. He told me to shut my eyes until he said I could open them. Since I trusted him, I took his advice. When I was finally was given the all clear, he told me he didn't want me to see a dead, mangled kitten. He knew I would have a difficult time erasing that image from my mind. He knows I'm fairly strong, but he knows I love cats and that image would have stuck with me whether or not I said a word.

He is a combat veteran. A roadkill kitten doesn't affect him, but he knew it would have affected me.

Squares can be hard, but not impossible if there is respect.

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posted March 30, 2019 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capguy75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fireopal09:

However, we both have mutable Moons and his Moon conjuncts my Venus.


Resurrecting this thread as I've a similar situation come up. Someone I met recently has made it known they *ahem* want to get to know me better.

Her Moon is in Gemini, mine's in Virgo and they square.

Obviously it's early days, but so far I do really get on with her, though I've heard squaring Moons often only tend to start chaffing if and when you move in together. So it's good to hear the mutability might help. Maybe both being ruled by Mercury might help also?

We've also seem to have plenty of other personal planet links going on to help:

Venus trine Moon
Mars conjunct Venus
Venus conjunct Venus

On the "not sure how this plays out but I guess it'll be interesting" front we also have:

Her Sun conjunct my BML
My Venus conjunct her BML
My NN conjunct her ASC

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posted April 18, 2019 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aqualilith09:
So I've got an out of sign moon square moon synastry aspect with my new bf...his is in Aries, mine is in aqua. Naturally aren't they like a quintile? Will our moon interact as like in like a quintile or will just go based on that square?? Any insight plz...

Square Moons tend to annoy each other i.e they have differing emotional needs and responses.So unless there are other factors to mitigate the interacrion, they will get on each other's nerves a lot.

Cap is annoyed by Aries impulsive nature. Which they think is "childish".

Aries is annoyed by Caps nature. Which they think is "owlish" and restricting.

Aquarius can't stand Tuarus' love for the simple, uncomplicated life. Aqua find that so boring.

Taurus is put off by Aquarius' need for constant company and aversion to physical intimacy. Taurus thinks Aqua has the pulse of a robot.

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