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Choc
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posted August 27, 2017 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Extremely problematic and misguided how you create parallels between a hot relationship and sexual and psychological abuse.
Sex is sex and abuse is abuse.
A hot aspect isn't and should never be an aspect indicative of abuse of any type.

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posted September 09, 2017 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Ami what do you say about man's nessus conjunct woman's ascendant in cancer? I have this aspect with the love of my life, hard relationship to leave til this day.

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posted September 09, 2017 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gracha:
Hey Ami what do you say about man's nessus conjunct woman's ascendant in cancer? I have this aspect with the love of my life, hard relationship to leave til this day.

He, likely, is abusive. With this Nessus energy, people feel a real URGE to abuse. I don't think the Nessus/ASC is as strong as the Nessus/personal planet, in terms of not being as abusive, BUT I would steer clear of Nessus, if I could, my Friend.

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posted September 10, 2017 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
He, likely, is abusive. With this Nessus energy, people feel a real URGE to abuse. I don't think the Nessus/ASC is as strong as the Nessus/personal planet, in terms of not being as abusive, BUT I would steer clear of Nessus, if I could, my Friend.


Thank you Ami Anne,
His nessus square my Aries Mars, do you think this would lead to physical abuse? I did see his abusive tendencies which is why I keep him at a distance but I must admit it's hard. We still talk on the phone and its hard. I've always been afraid to live with him because I'm afraid he might become physically abusive

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posted September 10, 2017 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it is 1-2 degrees, it is, likely, he would, in my opinion, G.

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posted September 10, 2017 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this in synastry with a friend I have feelings for, my Nessus Conj his Sun by 2 degrees.

I don't know anything about how this should feel so I'm at lost with this one. Neither him or I is abusive people so dunno.

He also has Nessus conj his sun natally. But he is the kindest person ever.

We have lots of mars-venus action. Those energies I get. But Nessus, not much.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 10, 2017 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just put it in the back of your mind and notice if it plays out at a later point, my Friend.

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posted October 30, 2019 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about this..

person A痴 Nessus Conj Pluto conj Sun moon midpoint
Person B痴 Dejanira conj Sun moon Midpoint

All of them Person A痴 and Person B痴 above mentioned things all conj. (Especially tight is Nessus Dejanira conj by exact)

Who feels more obsessive towards the other?

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posted October 31, 2019 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgoscorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I知 also going to disagree with this post. My husband and I have Nessus conjunction sun both ways within one degree in synastry. There has never been abuse of any kind and it has been the most loving, caring relationship I致e ever had.

We have a very spiritual connection more than anything else. It has never been lustful or obsessive and sometimes I almost feel like we are more friends than lovers, which can be a little weird.

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posted October 31, 2019 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Nessus Conj Dejanira exact degree? And the 2 midpoints are also involved?

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posted October 31, 2019 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about this one? Nessus conjunct Nessus! What does it mean? Plus his Nessus opposite my Venus (-1.23 degrees orb).

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posted October 31, 2019 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireAndEarth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Meh.
Don't want to get involved.

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Sinder
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posted October 31, 2019 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Nessus and Pluto Conjunct Dejanira by 0 degree?

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posted October 31, 2019 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
How about this one? Nessus conjunct Nessus! What does it mean? Plus his Nessus opposite my Venus (-1.23 degrees orb).

If born close in time, everyone would have it.

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posted October 31, 2019 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What about Nessus Conj Dejanira exact degree? And the 2 midpoints are also involved?

Nessus may abuse Deja but you need the whole chart cuz if the Deja person has a strong Pluto or Mars, they would fight back.

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posted October 31, 2019 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Nessus may abuse Deja but you need the whole chart cuz if the Deja person has a strong Pluto or Mars, they would fight back.



But what about the attraction?
Since Nessus and Dejanira are both about the hottest and second hottest aspects....
What would mean if they are conj?

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posted October 31, 2019 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbeth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Choc:
Extremely problematic and misguided how you create parallels between a hot relationship and sexual and psychological abuse.
Sex is sex and abuse is abuse.
A hot aspect isn't and should never be an aspect indicative of abuse of any type.

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posted October 31, 2019 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If born close in time, everyone would have it.



7 months apart

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posted November 01, 2019 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But what about the attraction?
Since Nessus and Dejanira are both about the hottest and second hottest aspects....
What would mean if they are conj?

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posted November 01, 2019 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asteroids (save for a few big ones) don't count for much, IMO. Never look at them. There's enough going on with the major planets to tell you pretty much everything you need to know. Any more and you're just reaching for a particular conclusion (at which point you can create just about any narrative).

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posted November 01, 2019 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A reason abuse may seem hot is because the victims may have low self-esteem and all the intensity of the attention makes them feel needed and appreciated. Abusive patterns may also be familiar to them so they gravitate towards it. They may not perceive it as bad enough as it was something they always knew, probably from childhood, so they don稚 know well about distinguishing what痴 actually healthy and what痴 not.

On the other hand, the abuser is intense because of insecurity and low self-esteem as well. They bond and they do everything so the other person would stay with them. Everything can revolve about the other person because they may not have a healthy sense of self.

Maybe as we realize and break from these patterns, we begin to see that these are not that hot.

Of course, we can also reach the positive sides of Nessus and Dejanira, which are healing, being stronger and understanding our pains and resentment better and letting things go.

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posted November 01, 2019 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbeth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
A reason abuse may seem hot is because the victims may have low self-esteem and all the intensity of the attention makes them feel needed and appreciated. Abusive patterns may also be familiar to them so they gravitate towards it. They may not perceive it as bad enough as it was something they always knew, probably from childhood, so they don稚 know well about distinguishing what痴 actually healthy and what痴 not.

On the other hand, the abuser is intense because of insecurity and low self-esteem as well. They bond and they do everything so the other person would stay with them. Everything can revolve about the other person because they may not have a healthy sense of self.

Maybe as we realize and break from these patterns, we begin to see that these are not that hot.

Of course, we can also reach the positive sides of Nessus and Dejanira, which are healing, being stronger and understanding our pains and resentment better and letting things go.


Have you ever been abused?

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posted November 01, 2019 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Abuse is never hot. I personally am not into anyone hurting me (or getting close to it), because I was strangled, and I've dealt with other kinds of violence.

When it comes to women I've known, who do like certain things, it has nothing to do with liking abuse and wanting attention. It was about giving up control to someone they trusted to keep them safe, and make them feel good. I don't know how that works in context, but it made sense to them, and they were alive and healthy.

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posted November 01, 2019 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Choc:
Extremely problematic and misguided how you create parallels between a hot relationship and sexual and psychological abuse.
Sex is sex and abuse is abuse.
A hot aspect isn't and should never be an aspect indicative of abuse of any type.

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posted November 01, 2019 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbeth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Abuse is never hot.

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